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itsoverisntit12 · 04/08/2024 16:05

Husband has barely spoken to me all weekend. It's a constant circle of me having to try and make conversation and get nothing back. I'm mad about it and I've told him so. So went I went to the shop he decided to drive off when I was inside and leave me.

It's only a 10 min walk from home. But I'm fuming. I don't know how to even react or what to say?

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greenwoodentablelegs · 06/08/2024 13:03

MonsteraMama · 04/08/2024 16:10

I'd book myself into a hotel for the night, get a nice bottle of wine and spend the evening watching my favourite trashy movies and wondering why I'm married to such a colossal arse biscuit.

Then I'd speak to a solicitor at my earliest convenience. I absolutely would not stand for the level of disrespect your husband has shown you.

Yeah me too.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 06/08/2024 13:01

itsoverisntit12 · 04/08/2024 16:05

Husband has barely spoken to me all weekend. It's a constant circle of me having to try and make conversation and get nothing back. I'm mad about it and I've told him so. So went I went to the shop he decided to drive off when I was inside and leave me.

It's only a 10 min walk from home. But I'm fuming. I don't know how to even react or what to say?

I would believe him when he is showing what he thinks of me and book a solicitors appointment and line up my options.

I would formally give my husband whatever divorce papers you issue at this point.

I would write to both sets of grandparents and say that the marriage has irretrievable broken down, you are instructing a solicitor, that it is not up for further discussion, you can and will no longer stay in an abusive marriage, and would appreciate their support so that their grandchildren feel loved.

I would not stay in an abusive marriage for the sake of my children. I've lived in a home with a bullying, narc parent and it's created a whole legacy for me and my siblings not least the need to consciously not repeat their "parenting" techniques and marital relationship.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/08/2024 11:37

CoffeeLover90 · 06/08/2024 11:20

Your home won't be broken when you split, it's broken now.
I'll just dive onto the pile of people telling you to leave because I did and it was the best decision I've ever made. Only difference was he was financially abusive so in that aspect I was better off however, I lost the childcare his family provided. I made it work.
At the time I was terrified. I read something on here, scared to stay and too terrified to leave, which has always stayed with me.
You're doing the children and yourself no favours by staying. You've nothing to be embarrassed about, it's him who is shameful. Tell anyone who asks what he's really like. He doesn't deserve you covering for him. And just leave please. There's a better life to be had, I promise.

Very much agree with this.

SirVixofVixHall · 06/08/2024 11:34

itsoverisntit12 · 04/08/2024 16:28

He said he drove off because he feels I slammed the door of the car when I got out and because he was mad that I tried to give him directions to a place he knew the way to.

Honestly OP, this is no way to live. He sounds emotionally stuck at about ten. Not like a functioning adult man. It’s also a terrible example for him to set to your children.
You would be happier alone than like this, surely ?

Bangwam1 · 06/08/2024 11:33

Biggest one

When he flips and starts treating you better, don’t get comfortable. Be ready for the devalue that’s coming your way. Don’t react to it (very very hard)

Bangwam1 · 06/08/2024 11:25

itsoverisntit12 · 04/08/2024 16:26

I've gone home. I can't leave them for the night because he leaves too early and I know will be upset if I'm not there / they don't know where I am.

I don't even know what to do now. I think I know we've reached the end but I can't even face it. I'm scared the kids will tell grandparents what just happened. I can't het my head around it all

The aim was to destabilise you and make you feel this confusion. I am living this, a few stages ahead with mine.

Your choices, get out..but if you must stay for a while (like I have to) you have to learn how to talk his language.

Mirror him. Spend his money, ignore him completely like nothing he does matters. Make him work for your attention, hard. No sex unless he behaves. If he looks at other women/porn, mirror this heavily too with other men.

Watch him treat you better. Never cry in front of him, they love it when you’re hurt. Don’t try to explain your emotions to him. Narcs don’t have them (only shame). Use shame if you really want to crush. Of course, it’s better to walk but if you have to live with one, this is what they respect…cruelty.

Toxic advice for the day. I love protecting women 💖

CoffeeLover90 · 06/08/2024 11:20

Your home won't be broken when you split, it's broken now.
I'll just dive onto the pile of people telling you to leave because I did and it was the best decision I've ever made. Only difference was he was financially abusive so in that aspect I was better off however, I lost the childcare his family provided. I made it work.
At the time I was terrified. I read something on here, scared to stay and too terrified to leave, which has always stayed with me.
You're doing the children and yourself no favours by staying. You've nothing to be embarrassed about, it's him who is shameful. Tell anyone who asks what he's really like. He doesn't deserve you covering for him. And just leave please. There's a better life to be had, I promise.

Bangwam1 · 06/08/2024 11:06

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:53

Ffs is he autistic! Why is that always trotted out? Such an insult to anyone with autism.

And it sounds nothing like autism either. This is abusive behaviour, old as time.

Women’s weakness is needing love and attention so it’s a male’s favourite weapon. Men’s weakness is their money and assets, and they require sex like a drug.

Use these weapons until you can free yourself

Starlight1979 · 06/08/2024 11:03

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:53

Ffs is he autistic! Why is that always trotted out? Such an insult to anyone with autism.

Always 😂In relation to pretty much any behaviour too! I was reading a post on here the other day about a mum saying she couldn't get her teen daughter to tidy her room. First reply "this sounds like she could be autistic" 😂No she's just a lazy arse teenager FFS!!!!!

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:53

Ffs is he autistic! Why is that always trotted out? Such an insult to anyone with autism.

alrightluv · 06/08/2024 10:52

Please listen to the sensible advice. He's abusive. Your dcs shouldn't witness this and neither should you. Tell everyone. Get support.

Bangwam1 · 06/08/2024 10:39

The silent treatments are there to make you beg for love and communication. It’s not an accident.

Leaving you stranded was to make it really hit home how little he cares. He hates himself so much he needs you to regulate his emotions for him, make him feel needed. Look up npd, bet you have been living this for a long time now.

Dump asap. It doesn’t get better. Truth is painful but don’t put up with people who play with your heart. Trash now.

Bangwam1 · 06/08/2024 10:20

Abusive man, sorry. Go and spend his money, that’ll get his attention 😂

GingerPirate · 06/08/2024 10:15

CinnamonTart · 06/08/2024 08:15

Is he autistic?

No, just a giant twat.

countrysidelife2024 · 06/08/2024 10:11

Its literally already broken, they had to watch there dad leave there mum in the shop :S like what part of that isnt broken? at least if you were seperated they wouldn't have to see you both act normal when you arnt. Kids arnt stupid and i wish people would stop treating them like they are delicate stupid beings.

GingerPirate · 06/08/2024 10:04

geekygardener · 04/08/2024 19:53

When I was younger I put up with so much crap from men. I'm only in my early 30s now but I wouldn't even dream of sticking around a man who dared to be even slightly disrespectful to me. Dc or not. I have raised a baby alone and I'd do it again in a heartbeat rather than live a life of misery. My friends make jokes about me laying in bed while my dh serves me. It's funny but also true. As a woman I'm too good for any man and so are you. Men are lucky to be with us in the first place. They better treat us like they know this or they can go away. Lots of men are emotionally inept and we should avoid those men like the plague. There is no excuse for it but that's how they are.

Why would you live your life like this? I don't understand it when this loser brings nothing to the table and you are too good for him. Why continue to live in misery and show your dc this is what life is like. There is literally no point.

I'd react by telling him to go back to his mummy's because he's still in the toddler tantrum phase so needs to go back on the naughty step. The peace and relief you will feel will be amazing.

Very good.
I'm 45, married, no kids.
He would do this once.
What is the point of living like this, such attitude among spouses?
😡

BigPussyEnergy · 06/08/2024 10:01

I’m not offended either - just pointing out how inaccurate that trope is. Every single single mum I know is happier since divorce! Many of us have also had subsequent relationships, it’s not the end of your life when you leave your shitty husband, it’s a new start.

IDontHateRainbows · 06/08/2024 10:00

itsoverisntit12 · 04/08/2024 16:15

If I didn't have the kids to sort of be fucking off to a hotel far away because I absolutely hate him so much right now.

Our relationship is constantly me wanting more, wanting conversations, someone to talk to. But fuck all. That's what I get.

I'd be taking the kids to a hotel or last minute Airbnb, wherever, let him know if he thinks you're not worthy of his company by driving off like that, he can do without it. Permanently.

LokiDoki75 · 06/08/2024 09:59

My Dad used to do and say stuff like this when he was in a sulk and home life was horrible as a result. Thankfully my parents eventually divorced and, although the divorce and everything around it was grim for a few years, they’ve both ended up much happier (and he grew up and stopped doing it). On the other hand, I am still feeling the after effects of it all nearly 40 years later. Please don’t put your kids through it, there’s support out there for both you and them that wasn’t around when I was a child.

applestrudels · 06/08/2024 09:58

itsoverisntit12 · 06/08/2024 09:41

Sorry if I offended anyone with the "broken home" comment. It was badly worded, I meant physically separate parents. I'm just not thinking!

He told me last night he can't wait to be dead so everyone is better off but I know he's looking for a reaction and nothing else. I'm meeting some friends tomorrow and I might try to talk them about it all

I wasn't offended, just trying to point out that it really isn't necessarily a bad thing for children to have their parents living separately... and when the parents' relationship is toxic, it is absolutely better for the children that they live apart.

I actually actively enjoyed having parents who lived separately. To me, there was literally no disadvantage. Going to stay at our dad's was like a little holiday, nice change of scenery, I never once wished my parents were together.

MzHz · 06/08/2024 09:58

Also… if I were your mum @itsoverisntit12 too damned right I’d hit the fucking roof at how he’s treating you and my grand kids.

you’ve admitted this is wrong to yourself, brilliant start. You’ve written it down to us here and we’re showing you that you’re not the one in the wrong and you do deserve better. If your mum is half the woman you are, she’ll back you.

if not, if she’s like my mother/family, then you keep it to yourself and find friends and mumsnet to support you.

ThisIsPlanetEarth · 06/08/2024 09:56

You could tell him that if he can't stand being in the same house as you he can leave. I said the same to my husband years age when he was being moody and ignoring me. Not surprisingly, he soon changed as he doesn't have anywhere else to go.
The children must have been upset and confused when he just drove off and left you.
Be assured that the constant arguing and tension in the house does affect them as my parents were the same. It affected me and my siblings. Both my parents were at fault though.

BigPussyEnergy · 06/08/2024 09:55

itsoverisntit12 · 06/08/2024 07:16

If I'm honest, I don't think I do love him anymore (not solely because of this incident) but I'm scared to leave. Not because I'm scared of him, but I'm scared of being alone, the kids having a broken home, less income, looking after the kids on my own. All of it. I don't know how to do it or where to start

The kids already have a ‘broken’ home. This one is not good for them. Don’t use that as an excuse to stay. I’m divorced, my kids are fine, their dad has a much better relationship with them (and me to be fair!) now that he doesn’t live with us. Broken home is bullshit. Kids need a stable home with happy parents. Your kids have neither - where’s the stability in being in the car while your dad abandons your mum?

DeepRoseFish · 06/08/2024 09:53

Please read Why does he do that.

MzHz · 06/08/2024 09:53

Gerwurtztraminer · 06/08/2024 07:39

So to deal with your fears

  • you are already alone aren't you? He doesn't talk to you, refuses to communicate like an adult, drives off without you and has blocked your phone. How lonely you must feel right now. Living alone doesn't have to be lonely (I love it).
  • It's a broken home NOW. It'll be better if they don't have 2 parents at loggerheads with their father treating their mother like shit. As a child I remember an adult saying I came from a broken home and feeling both confused and upset - I didn't think my mum, me & sister (minus alcoholic violent Dad) were broken.
  • Less income. Never great but CMS from him and ability to do your own thing with money = you'll manage
  • Looking after kids on your own. How much does he do with them now (on his own)? If you live separately he'd hopefully have them at least every other weekend, giving you time to yourself.
There are worse ways to live than as a single mum, for example in an unhappy, loveless marriage being alternately shouted at or ignored. If he won't try marriage counselling/therapy then all you are doing is continuing to make your life miserable, and by extension your kids lives as well.

I was about to say al this too @itsoverisntit12 @Gerwurtztraminer says it far better than I could.

Living without him will be easier than living like this

your children will bloom before your eyes once you’ve removed this toxic and negative energy from their home.

your username is bang on. You need to end this asap. Get your information and thoughts together and don’t stop or lose focus until you’re away from him.