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To wonder why more parents don't encourage daughters to freeze eggs?

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alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:00

I know , I know - money! But there's so many more parents that help out their children by buying them housing or contributing large sums towards the wedding. Why isn't egg freezing a more common "gift"?

For example, I grew up quite comfortable and my parents wanted to help me build up a safety net. When I finished uni they bought me a flat in central London (for which I am immensely grateful) and paid a substantial amount towards my wedding (again, very very thankful for this). So they clearly have money and were willing to use it to help me out in life. Similarly now, I've mentioned we might do IVF and parents have said if they can help out financially they are very willing. So... why is it that so few girls are encouraged by their parents at age 18-25 to freeze eggs by their parents? Why, among all of my friends, even ones who went to private school and come from super rich backgrounds, have none of us been "gifted" an egg freezing round but many got flats etc? Not ungrateful but just wondering why culturally it's not as common when it could save so many tears, stress and even money down the line to be used on unsuccessful IVF rounds as egg quality declines?
I feel like this is 100% something I would "gift" my daughter, ahead of for example cars or flats. Or am I missing something?

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Wheresthebeach · 04/08/2024 15:43

Because nobody should go through unnecessary medical procedures. Help with housing…yep. Egg freezing - seriously such an odd thing to get involved in

Fedupmumofadultsons · 04/08/2024 15:43

What a grotesque thing to suggest .a lot of the problem is a lot of people are leaving thinking about children until nature dictates you are getting a old for it .I mean your eggs get older it's harder to get pregnant after 30 /35 not impossible for some completely easy but come one there was a reason our grandmother's had lots of children they married and started babies early .. .if your parent's have money to help fine but suggesting you should try to by pass nature with egg retrieval there is something quite frankanstien about that honestly ..

LBFseBrom · 04/08/2024 15:42

KimberleyClark · 04/08/2024 15:37

What on earth would the point of that be? To have babies in your 70s or later?

Speaking as someone in her seventies I can only say, "Perish the thought".

Scottishgirl85 · 04/08/2024 15:38

This is the weirdest post. Very few would need it, so it would be very wasteful. And it's an invasive, expensive operation (in UK) with poor success rates (when comparing egg vs embryo freezing). I've successfully done IVF, went abroad and it wasn't too expensive. Definitely one of those things you deal with if needed, rather than preparing to need it.

KimberleyClark · 04/08/2024 15:37

Millsmills · 04/08/2024 14:49

You can keep them frozen for 55 years now

What on earth would the point of that be? To have babies in your 70s or later?

mummyofhyperDD · 04/08/2024 15:32

I was taught at uni by Gillian Lockwood who pioneered egg freezing (as opposed to embryo freezing), and having had fertility treatment myself this is absolutely something I would gift my daughter, but education, housing and private health insurance and things I'd prioritise first.

however the success rates aren't brilliant .

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 15:24

@NewDogOwner the chances aren’t so low…12% with reference to what? It depends on how many eggs you freeze 🤷‍♀️

user98265528790 · 04/08/2024 15:23

Oh, blimey no! It sounds like some sort of breeding programme and I’m sure my daughter in the 18-25 category would be horrified…
We have however had conversations about how the younger they are when/if they have children the more her dad and I will (hopefully) be able to help. And that fertility declines the older you get, plus easier to get your figure back the younger you are! I think my generation were the last (45) to not think 25 was young to have a baby.
But ultimately its none of my business if or when she does decide to start a family.

SevenSummer · 04/08/2024 15:23

Are you finding “money can’t buy everything” a hard lesson?

NewDogOwner · 04/08/2024 15:19

It gives a false sense of security as the chances of actually having a baby this way is so low. I think it's a 12% success rate.

Millsmills · 04/08/2024 15:16

In a nutshell, yes YABU.

I have had successful IVF/ICSI (currently pregnant) and have 2 more embryos frozen at the age of 29. If I had had my eggs frozen in my early 20s it would have made zero difference to my conception abilities because we had treatment due to male factor infertility, which is up to a third of all couples seeking fertility treatment in the UK.

I also was very very unwell and hospitalised after egg retrieval with OHSS, something that seems worth it now I am pregnant with my husband's baby, but had I been doing that on the off chance I might want children one day I would be more than a bit miffed.

I am very lucky to come from a similar place of privilege, my mum gave me money for a house deposit, and a large chunk for our wedding. When she heard we needed IVF she offered to pay, I think the words were "I don't want finance to be a barrier to this if it's what you want, I'll help you", as it happened we managed to fund the majority of it ourselves (up to £7k so far).

OP, I understand you're struggling to conceive your 2nd, and so you're thinking this from a different place than lots of people on this thread, but as some one who has done it successfully at the same/similar age as you, egg retrieval earlier would not have been the answer to your current issues. Wishing you the best of luck.

breadandroses1992 · 04/08/2024 15:15

alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:00

I know , I know - money! But there's so many more parents that help out their children by buying them housing or contributing large sums towards the wedding. Why isn't egg freezing a more common "gift"?

For example, I grew up quite comfortable and my parents wanted to help me build up a safety net. When I finished uni they bought me a flat in central London (for which I am immensely grateful) and paid a substantial amount towards my wedding (again, very very thankful for this). So they clearly have money and were willing to use it to help me out in life. Similarly now, I've mentioned we might do IVF and parents have said if they can help out financially they are very willing. So... why is it that so few girls are encouraged by their parents at age 18-25 to freeze eggs by their parents? Why, among all of my friends, even ones who went to private school and come from super rich backgrounds, have none of us been "gifted" an egg freezing round but many got flats etc? Not ungrateful but just wondering why culturally it's not as common when it could save so many tears, stress and even money down the line to be used on unsuccessful IVF rounds as egg quality declines?
I feel like this is 100% something I would "gift" my daughter, ahead of for example cars or flats. Or am I missing something?

I married at 22 and used withdrawal method for 8 years and never got pregnant. Been ttc for one year and still nothing

But basically used risky contraception in my 20s and still never got pregnant so youth doesn't necessarily mean you get pregnant easily...

DivaD8ver001 · 04/08/2024 15:12

If parents are going to provide

When children are born, all genders

A savings account is opened
A pension is started
A funeral is paid for
Blood & placenta stored
Micro chip added

The freezing of eggs / sperms

What will happen in a 100 years time ?

MiniCooperLover · 04/08/2024 15:10

It's a hugely invasive procedure ... it's not without risk and if someone reacts badly to the drugs to stimulate their ovaries they could really risk their future fertility. As someone who was fortunate for IVF (on the second attempt) to work I would say it's not a fucking easy fix!

PetulantPenguin · 04/08/2024 15:09

Lentilweaver · 04/08/2024 14:20

I was waiting for someone to come along and say this. I feel like an awful person because I am encouraging my DC not to have DC. Especially as they want to stay in London if they can.

Glad not to be the only one 😀

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 15:03

While it worked for me I do agree it gives a false notion of how long fertility is extended for - in reality it is only by a few years. However, for women who haven’t met someone those few years can make all the difference in terms of finances etc

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 15:01

@theworldsmad Down’s syndrome I understand is from the age of the egg when frozen - so the risk profile one the OPs hypothetical would be for an 18 year old egg.

what difference does it make if it’s a first or fifth baby at 41?

BefuddledCrumble · 04/08/2024 15:00

Because what my daughter does with her own eggs is her buisness, not mine.

theworldsmad · 04/08/2024 14:59

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 14:54

@theworldsmad before birth control lots of women had babies at those ages

It was almost never their first babies.
We know that the age of the mother at the first baby is significant in chances of Downs syndrome etc.

theworldsmad · 04/08/2024 14:57

Soontobe60 · 04/08/2024 14:40

What would have been far far better would be that Facebook were to pay their female workers a decent maternity package so they could have children earlier, instead of pretending to value their employees.

So true! You think fb are doing it because they're so nice? Really thinking about their lovely employee, Lily?
Nope its economical to them. They basically pay so that you will work for them longer and not go on maternity or leave ( stats show that many women stop working especially in such high stress tech jobs, once they have kids). And then maybe by the time you actually want to use those eggs (as you've put off kids for so long, because you've frozen your eggs, so why have kids early)?, you can't even use them.
Facebook wins all the way.

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 14:54

@theworldsmad before birth control lots of women had babies at those ages

Alondra · 04/08/2024 14:53

Because most parents don't interfere in their daughters' decisions in this type of issue.

Their daughters may want to have children or not. They may want to leave having children later. These are personal decisions an adult woman should take without her parents offering any type of "encouragement".

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 14:52

@Gingernaut that is incorrect

2024onwardsandup · 04/08/2024 14:52

For information - the ten years thing doesn’t apply any more - it’s 55 years you can store now. Different clinics differ on age they’ll go up to for defrosting. Not tooooo hard to find a clinic that will go up to 50 in the UK and you’d probably find somewhere that wouls take you up to 55.

the success rates are VASTLY better than these days because they use a different technology now. It’s basically just a dash lower than IVF for the age at which you froze your eggs. (And the slighty less because of my freeze maybe offset by the fact that there no fertility issues leading to IVF).

Gingernaut · 04/08/2024 14:51

It's expensive

It's potentially lethal

The prospect of gestating a fertile embryo to full term is so slim, It's almost futile

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