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To wonder why more parents don't encourage daughters to freeze eggs?

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alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:00

I know , I know - money! But there's so many more parents that help out their children by buying them housing or contributing large sums towards the wedding. Why isn't egg freezing a more common "gift"?

For example, I grew up quite comfortable and my parents wanted to help me build up a safety net. When I finished uni they bought me a flat in central London (for which I am immensely grateful) and paid a substantial amount towards my wedding (again, very very thankful for this). So they clearly have money and were willing to use it to help me out in life. Similarly now, I've mentioned we might do IVF and parents have said if they can help out financially they are very willing. So... why is it that so few girls are encouraged by their parents at age 18-25 to freeze eggs by their parents? Why, among all of my friends, even ones who went to private school and come from super rich backgrounds, have none of us been "gifted" an egg freezing round but many got flats etc? Not ungrateful but just wondering why culturally it's not as common when it could save so many tears, stress and even money down the line to be used on unsuccessful IVF rounds as egg quality declines?
I feel like this is 100% something I would "gift" my daughter, ahead of for example cars or flats. Or am I missing something?

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Treacletoots · 04/08/2024 13:12

Because legally we're only allowed to store the eggs for a limited amount of time. Since a lot of women are having children a lot later now, freezing them in your early 20s would be a pointless exercise

ChekhovsMum · 04/08/2024 13:11

Also, can you imagine having your parents pay to freeze your eggs when you marry at 28, only to have them watching your every move from 30 onwards, and then at 33 or something, laying on the pressure because it ‘doesn’t look like it’s going to happen naturally’ and you’re ‘not getting any younger’?
’Oh but we spent all that money on freezing those eggs for you when you were young. The least you could do is try…’
Yuck.

muggart · 04/08/2024 13:11

My friend was gifted egg freezing by her employer (she is employed by Facebook in the US) when she was in her 20s. I don't think the OP's suggestion is so crazy, people would take up that gift if it was on the table.

TinyYellow · 04/08/2024 13:11

Because insurance that comes with no guarantees but that does come with a horrible procedure is a crap gift that wouldn’t occur to most people.

Ratisshortforratthew · 04/08/2024 13:10

ChekhovsMum · 04/08/2024 13:08

Because the implied message of ‘we really want grandchildren so we’ll use our financial status to make you feel strong-armed into having this procedure done’ could feel really invasive. I’d have felt uncomfortable with my parents being this presumptive, even though I wanted children. Fertility, reproductive systems and childbearing are private.

This. My parents couldn’t have afforded any of that but if they could, and suggested egg freezing, I’d have been horrified. Whether or not I have kids is none of their business. Even if I wanted kids I’d have refused the egg freezing on a point of principle if they offered such a thing.

RampantIvy · 04/08/2024 13:10

Because a baby is not a commodity

It's assuming our Dds want to have children.

Because the implied message of ‘we really want grandchildren so we’ll use our financial status to make you feel strong-armed into having this procedure done’ could feel really invasive.

I agree with these ^^ and all the other replies.

Whether DD wants babies or not (she doesn't) is none of my business. It's her life not mine. This is about what the parents want not the daughters, and has hints of The Handmaids Tale about it.

What is it with some women who think they are missing out by not being grandparents?

3luckystars · 04/08/2024 13:09

I don’t think it’s necessary.

Mrsjayy · 04/08/2024 13:09

I also didn't realise rich women did this as "standard"

DarkForces · 04/08/2024 13:09

I really don't think I should be forcing dd to have painful medical procedures that will probably be unnecessary at a young age. I assume if she wants children she will make the decision when she wants and hopefully will be successful but a) I don't think giving her the false security of egg collection that may mean she delays is helpful and b) I don't want her to feel any pressure from me either way.

Meadowfinch · 04/08/2024 13:08

Because in 99% of cases, it's unnecessary, the process to harvest eggs is not pleasant and because the success rate from frozen eggs is not huge.

Better to raise one's children to be confident & healthy, and help them with childcare, so they don't have to wait too long to be able to afford dcs.

ChekhovsMum · 04/08/2024 13:08

Because the implied message of ‘we really want grandchildren so we’ll use our financial status to make you feel strong-armed into having this procedure done’ could feel really invasive. I’d have felt uncomfortable with my parents being this presumptive, even though I wanted children. Fertility, reproductive systems and childbearing are private.

WobblyBoots · 04/08/2024 13:08

KimberleyClark · 04/08/2024 13:03

Because it’s very expensive, uncomfortable and invasive, there is no guarantee of success and it’s not some magical way of stopping g the biological clock?

This!

Better things to tackle would be those factors that make it so hard for young couples to be financially stable and have a secure home earlier on, the factors that make women in professional jobs feel they need to progress to a certain level before having kids due to the fear of the impact it will have on their career etc etc.

And I say this as an older Mum who had kids between 35 and 41.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 04/08/2024 13:08

Getting involved in planning the breeding of the next generation sounds somewhat presumptive - and an awful lot like pre-Modern Era trading of female children/arranging marriages on the basis that they'll produce children in the future whether they like it or not.

If somebody's been bought a flat, they've got the best opportunity to have money to make their own reproductive choices, rather than have their Dad say 'best get started with invasive medical procedures before you've met somebody to impregnate you/wank into a pot, those eggs'll start deteriorating along with your womb before you know it'.

muggart · 04/08/2024 13:07

It's a good question OP! Maybe they think it'll incentivise their DDs to delay parenthood?

Also a bit cynical perhaps but I think sometimes the "gifts" you mentioned are to benefit the parents, especially wedding costs when parents want to determine the guest list.

alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:07

@Allie47 yes , wouldn't have IVF if I didn't have trouble conceiving

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LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 13:07

alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:04

I have had egg retrieval, so I am aware what the procedure involves. Just that whilst doing it I thought so many times "if only I had 18 year old me's eggs"...

I'm sure that crosses lots of women's minds but resources by and large go into the battle to buy a home.

Blisterly · 04/08/2024 13:06

Not all women want babies. Not all women are comfortable with freezing eggs. Not all women have difficulty getting pregnant. Not all women want that level of involvement from their parents when it comes to their bodies. Why don’t parents give their boys the gift of sterilisation to prevent unwanted pregnancies? Then the parents can pay for the reversal later?

Allie47 · 04/08/2024 13:06

Why are you thinking of IVF, are you having fertility issues? No-one gifts IVF egg freezing because no-one thinks infertility is going to happen to them 🤷‍♀️ it's very uncommon to go through the difficult and expensive process when you're unlikely to ever need it (unless you know early there's an issue).

Mrsjayy · 04/08/2024 13:06

It's assuming our Dds want to have children.

LiterallyOnFire · 04/08/2024 13:06

I think what you're "missing" is that you and your parents are outliers. Hugely removed from the norm.

alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:06

@Carebearsonmybed in fairness, my parents have encouraged me to have children in my 20s, which I have tried to do...

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BeeCucumber · 04/08/2024 13:05

Because not everyone wants children, it’s painful and invasive with no guarantee of success for starters.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 04/08/2024 13:05

It's painful, expensive and not necessary in a lot of cases.

Edingril · 04/08/2024 13:05

Because a baby is not a commodity

Olympicscandal2024 · 04/08/2024 13:05

Unpleasant procedure and may be totally unnecessary. I'd have been horrified if I'd been 'gifted' this by my parents.