To wonder why more parents don't encourage daughters to freeze eggs?

Instead of encouraging a risky, expensive and unnatural procedure, we could encourage our children to have children at a biologically appropriate age (e.g by talking about the risks of leaving it to late, talking about life choices with them, encouraging them to find a decent, stable partnership, offering childcare/help with housing if possible) or campaigning for a society which makes it possible for people to have children at the most biologically appropriate age (e.g campaigning for a real living wage, better parental leave policies, stable and affordable housing, a decent welfare state etc, training and education and career opportunities to be offered at various stages of a persons life, flexible employment, access to affordable childcare).

I find that chilling tbh. They are basically buying what they see as the most productive years of her working life.

I'd rather tell my daughter that if she doesn't have to have kids, it will be ok if she doesn't. There migth be a few sad years but those sad years aren't forever. Even if a person wants kids and can't , I assume that the sadness mostly passes and after acceptance there is freedom. I think the best advice is to live life intending to fill it as though you won't have kids.

Or lower...as the article suggests...

Please don't pressure your daughter to have children. She might not want to have them, and certainly might not want to undergo an invasive procedure on a 'just in case'.

Also rightly or wrongly most women presume they’ll be able to conceive naturally or perhaps with IVF using their own eggs and for a lot of these women this will be the case. Most people I know having fertility treatment didn’t embark on it until they had problems. Why would you?

1 - Very expensive.

2- Perhaps the most important is it is actually doing a procedure which may have long term health implications. It has long been suspected that IVF and the hormones that stimulate the egg production are linked to female cancers. So as lovely as it sounds securing your daughter's fertility. Who would want to risk their daughters health if it may never be needed???

It's against nature.

It's not biology's fault people are waiting until they are biologically "past it" to have children.

It's invasive, expensive at the time and an on going expense that might come to nothing anyway.

Because I wouldn’t encourage my dd to undergo unnecessary medical procedures, nor assume that having children is something she would want to do, and if she did then it’s literally none of my business how she goes about that. What a weird question.

Yes it feels like your own parents have a vested interest, I.e grandchildren.

Struggling to conceive may not be due to the egg quality though. Why would I pay to put my young daughters through an invasive, expensive, possibly unnecessary procedure - may have no fertility issues, egg quality may not be the issue with fertility, may not want children. Do you think we should encourage our sons to freeze their sperms also from a young age because the mobility and quality is better or they may face future issues such as testicular cancer.

The success rates are lower than with fresh eggs, or even frozen embryos iirc.

Egg freezing patients ‘misled’ by clinics https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68505321
How successful is egg freezing in the UK?

Few patients in the UK have come back to use their frozen eggs, but for those who do, the success rates are slightly lower than IVF using fresh eggs - which is about 20-30% per round depending on age. It could be as low as 5% for people in their 40s, according to HFEA.

Egg freezing is really low success rates isn't it? Frozen embryos are much higher. Then your daughters either need to have them fertilised with donor sperm and hope the man wants an unrelated baby. Or fertilise it with the current boyfriends sperm and hope they don't split up because she can't use them without his consent.

What an awful thing to say. Maybe women don't want babies?!

It's a really unpleasant idea, tbh. I can see why you've reverse-engineered the logic of the thought in your own situation but I think the ethics of it being widely practised are pretty gross.

Not everyone wants their eggs frozen? I wouldn’t want to raise a child without a father. I know that’s my choice but I can’t be the only woman thinking the same.

Also easy to make the statement about asking for your eggs to be frozen instead of money for anything else when you’ve already been bought a house, a wedding, god knows what else. Plenty of people would prefer the security of their own home or at least a deposit given the choice.

Do you work for the fertility industry?

There is no reason for young women to see themselves as walking wombs or producers of babies.

They may or may not choose to have children at some point in their lives.

If they do, the vast majority will not need help to do so.

Those who do need help, it is more complicated than 'premium eggs' for most.

And finally (I’ll stop soon, I promise) the horror of toxic parents or PILs who decide they’ve got a bigger stake in your child, and can make decisions for them, because ‘DC wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for us’.

And how many young women do you think would willingly consent to egg retrieval at their parents' behest?

Ignore me. The law changed in 2021.

This is just an insane concept. Why not gift your uterus to your daughter so she doesn't have to go on mat leave until the baby is born, or so she doesn't lose her figure? Why not gift a kidney in case one of hers packs up at some unspecified date? Why not buy her a head or whole body cryo unit, etc, etc
Is there something in the water this week? Common sense seems to be sadly lacking across the entire country

Does anyone have any stats on success using frozen eggs. I was led to believe it's much less likely to result in a successful pregnancy than using frozen embryos

I'm really surprised that anyone who has gone through egg collection would recommend it as standard to everyone. I certainly wouldn't want my daughter to go through it unless very necessary.

Because it is hugely intrusive for parents to "encourage" their daughters to have children by any means, whether traditional, IVF or whatever. It's none of their business. Frankly, any parent going down this route with an adult daughter is likely to be told to F off!

Because egg freezing is incredibly presumptive. Why assume that having children is on the agenda for everyone.

Everybody needs a roof over their head and IF parents are able to make a contribution that makes much more sense than encouraging someone to freeze their eggs - what happens when you've paid a shedload of money to freeze eggs and then the daughter decides 'nah I don't fancy children now'