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To wonder why more parents don't encourage daughters to freeze eggs?

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alesndra · 04/08/2024 13:00

I know , I know - money! But there's so many more parents that help out their children by buying them housing or contributing large sums towards the wedding. Why isn't egg freezing a more common "gift"?

For example, I grew up quite comfortable and my parents wanted to help me build up a safety net. When I finished uni they bought me a flat in central London (for which I am immensely grateful) and paid a substantial amount towards my wedding (again, very very thankful for this). So they clearly have money and were willing to use it to help me out in life. Similarly now, I've mentioned we might do IVF and parents have said if they can help out financially they are very willing. So... why is it that so few girls are encouraged by their parents at age 18-25 to freeze eggs by their parents? Why, among all of my friends, even ones who went to private school and come from super rich backgrounds, have none of us been "gifted" an egg freezing round but many got flats etc? Not ungrateful but just wondering why culturally it's not as common when it could save so many tears, stress and even money down the line to be used on unsuccessful IVF rounds as egg quality declines?
I feel like this is 100% something I would "gift" my daughter, ahead of for example cars or flats. Or am I missing something?

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WonderingWanda · 04/08/2025 14:39

I don't think it would occur to many parents. My dm had us in the late 70's and 80's, ivf was really new then, a new scienctific discovery on Tomorrows world ( I still picture a baby growing in a massive test tube even now based on news reports of "The first test tube baby". Even though egg freezing was possible it didn't really become commercially wide spread until the 2000's. That's only 25 yrs ago so parents of women currently in their 30's who are probably in their late 50's / early 60's are unlikely to have widespread experience of egg freezing as a precautionary measure.

IndigoBluey · 04/08/2025 14:38

Sounds a bit too Handmaid Tale to me. Back to Gilead you go

Btowngirl · 04/08/2025 14:37

Arrivapercy · 04/08/2025 14:27

Because i want them to think about their fertility when they are young and choose to have them at the right time biologically, not freeze eggs and assume that takes care of it.

Freezing eggs doesn't solve all fertility problems.

Its my personal opinion (and i appreciate others don't share it) that older parents can lack the patience and energy for young children, it leads to a different parenting style that can be passive. We are biologically not supposed to be parenting toddlers while menopausal!

I respect your opinion but we could apply the ‘we aren’t supposed to’ to so many things. We aren’t ‘supposed’ to be able to survive loads of illness we have medical intervention for. We aren’t supposed to go to the moon etc.

My sister has been trying to have a baby for years & I really hope it happens for her, she will be in her 40’s now as she’s currently 39 and I know she would be the best and most attentive mum. way better equipped (financially & emotionally) than my cousin who’s been having babies since she was 19.

Arrivapercy · 04/08/2025 14:27

Because i want them to think about their fertility when they are young and choose to have them at the right time biologically, not freeze eggs and assume that takes care of it.

Freezing eggs doesn't solve all fertility problems.

Its my personal opinion (and i appreciate others don't share it) that older parents can lack the patience and energy for young children, it leads to a different parenting style that can be passive. We are biologically not supposed to be parenting toddlers while menopausal!

Nasrine · 04/08/2025 13:03

I've discussed this with my daughter. She's 26 and her partner already has 2 children, and is about to start a degree, so very little likelihood of them having another child any time soon.

My daughter is put off by the cost.

KimberleyClark · 04/08/2025 12:43

Scotty22 · 04/08/2025 12:06

Pretty insensitive yeah but it wouldn't have mattered if I had froze my eggs at 18 or 118 I would have still struggled.

I started ttc at 29 and never did, and don’t think it would have made much difference had I frozen my eggs ten years earlier ( this was 35 years ago, egg freezing was not a thing).

Scotty22 · 04/08/2025 12:06

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 09:50

I hope I’m not being insensitive but if you had frozen your eggs you might not have had to go through ivf so many times?

Pretty insensitive yeah but it wouldn't have mattered if I had froze my eggs at 18 or 118 I would have still struggled.

chaosmaker · 03/08/2025 20:09

SarahR71 · 02/08/2025 01:41

Who said anything about thirty years? If these babies could have been born earlier due to either economic or relationship reasons then they would have been. I imagine the ice comment will be hurtful for a lot of people

why? it's a true statement. I've said for years that as animals we should probably become infertile when we are overpopulated. I understand it's an emotional thing but what will all these people born end up doing when ai etc is poised to replace us? As someone said on something I read earlier, 'just because the technology exists, it doesn't mean we should use it'

LemonBeagle · 03/08/2025 11:28

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 10:34

I wouldn’t recommend going abroad for any procedure particularly egg freezing. Also, if you go abroad wouldn’t your eggs be in a different jurisdiction?

I don't know about jurisdiction, do you know about it?

I looked into it when I was considering it. I found a UK couple who have an organisation that has a relationship with a bank overseas and oversee everything.

It wasn't dodgy or anything!

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 10:34

LemonBeagle · 02/08/2025 13:34

I think the onus is on the daughter to ask for help towards it if that's what she wants.

It used to not be that successful as a treatment. It also costs around 10k to have 3 rounds which is what you need ideally to get enough eggs. Cheaper if you go abroad.

I wouldn’t recommend going abroad for any procedure particularly egg freezing. Also, if you go abroad wouldn’t your eggs be in a different jurisdiction?

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 10:03

LemonBeagle · 02/08/2025 13:34

I think the onus is on the daughter to ask for help towards it if that's what she wants.

It used to not be that successful as a treatment. It also costs around 10k to have 3 rounds which is what you need ideally to get enough eggs. Cheaper if you go abroad.

Also, broodiness sometimes doesn’t kick in until women are older. I heard about someone who was adamant she didn’t want kids - she turned 40 and suddenly had an overwhelming yearning. I’ve also heard of older couples going through a lot of turmoil and huge expense trying to conceive, often without success

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 09:53

LemonBeagle · 02/08/2025 13:34

I think the onus is on the daughter to ask for help towards it if that's what she wants.

It used to not be that successful as a treatment. It also costs around 10k to have 3 rounds which is what you need ideally to get enough eggs. Cheaper if you go abroad.

One round is often sufficient for younger women. But not after the age of 35

SarahR71 · 03/08/2025 09:50

Scotty22 · 02/08/2025 12:00

It seems a bit of a strange "gift" for someone 18 - 25 if they have no health problems that would effect their fertility. Majority of people fall pregant naturally so what would happend to the eggs? A house deposit seems a much more useful.

I had 7 rounds of IVF before finally having my baby and there is no way I would have went through all if i didnt need to.

I hope I’m not being insensitive but if you had frozen your eggs you might not have had to go through ivf so many times?

LemonBeagle · 02/08/2025 13:34

I think the onus is on the daughter to ask for help towards it if that's what she wants.

It used to not be that successful as a treatment. It also costs around 10k to have 3 rounds which is what you need ideally to get enough eggs. Cheaper if you go abroad.

KimberleyClark · 02/08/2025 12:53

LameBorzoi · 02/08/2025 11:56

But if you had, say, a reasonable chance of being fit and healthy to well over 100 years of age, surely the grandparents would still be around, too?

Well, if you had a baby at age 55, and your child did the same or had a baby even later……with eggs there is no upper age limit, women have had babies at 70+ with donor eggs.

Scotty22 · 02/08/2025 12:00

It seems a bit of a strange "gift" for someone 18 - 25 if they have no health problems that would effect their fertility. Majority of people fall pregant naturally so what would happend to the eggs? A house deposit seems a much more useful.

I had 7 rounds of IVF before finally having my baby and there is no way I would have went through all if i didnt need to.

LameBorzoi · 02/08/2025 11:56

KimberleyClark · 01/08/2025 13:28

It could make having living grandparents a thing of the past?

But if you had, say, a reasonable chance of being fit and healthy to well over 100 years of age, surely the grandparents would still be around, too?

GauntJudy · 02/08/2025 11:52

Because it would be a very odd gift.

It's up to my dc if they want to delay parenthood until later in life, or if they decide not to have kids. In the scheme of "things to help your kids with", I'd say education and housing are priorities.

It's lovely that you and your friends have been gifted flats etc, I guess that will free up money for you to pursue private fertility treatment if needed.

LameBorzoi · 02/08/2025 11:45

VestaTilley · 02/08/2025 03:23

YABVU.

Egg retrieval is full of risks and the long term harms of egg retrieval on women’s bodies are under studied and largely unknown. To mature an artificially high number of eggs women have to be pumped full of hormones and given other drugs to mature the eggs, before they’re removed with a massive needle which perforates the ovary.

Young women - the group targeted for egg freezing and “donation” are at higher risk for complications including ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, which can be fatal.

Overstimulation of the ovaries is an entirely unnatural procedure which was designed for older women in IVF to stimulate ovaries- not for young women who have lots.

I would never encourage my daughter to do this. Not only are there huge risks with egg retrieval, but egg freezing often fails and doesn’t work. It’s not a help to women - it’s a cash cow for fertility clinics who prey on women’s concerns about decline of fertility. Women are encouraged to give up half their eggs for “donation” in exchange for cheaper storage costs: it’s a con. The clinics sell on the eggs for profit. Most clinics now owned by private equity firms. Your daughter may find at 40 etc her eggs don’t become embryos, meanwhile someone else has been out there raising her genetic child for 15 years.

It’s a scandal Government allow this and that they’re not doing more to clamp down on this appallingly exploitative industry.

That's a terrible mishmash of fearmongering and downright nonsense.

SarahR71 · 02/08/2025 09:01

Btowngirl · 02/08/2025 03:09

I don’t think most people would think of this unless they’ve been through fertility treatment themselves. I think a better option would be a fertility check at 25 to see what’s what and make an informed decision from there. I also think that our parents generation had children younger during peak fertility & had less medical advances in terms of IVF so it just wouldn’t have been on their radar at all!

This makes a lot of sense. I would add considering freezing eggs from the age of 32 to 35 if financially possible if our daughters aren’t in a postiion to have a child at that time

VestaTilley · 02/08/2025 03:23

YABVU.

Egg retrieval is full of risks and the long term harms of egg retrieval on women’s bodies are under studied and largely unknown. To mature an artificially high number of eggs women have to be pumped full of hormones and given other drugs to mature the eggs, before they’re removed with a massive needle which perforates the ovary.

Young women - the group targeted for egg freezing and “donation” are at higher risk for complications including ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, which can be fatal.

Overstimulation of the ovaries is an entirely unnatural procedure which was designed for older women in IVF to stimulate ovaries- not for young women who have lots.

I would never encourage my daughter to do this. Not only are there huge risks with egg retrieval, but egg freezing often fails and doesn’t work. It’s not a help to women - it’s a cash cow for fertility clinics who prey on women’s concerns about decline of fertility. Women are encouraged to give up half their eggs for “donation” in exchange for cheaper storage costs: it’s a con. The clinics sell on the eggs for profit. Most clinics now owned by private equity firms. Your daughter may find at 40 etc her eggs don’t become embryos, meanwhile someone else has been out there raising her genetic child for 15 years.

It’s a scandal Government allow this and that they’re not doing more to clamp down on this appallingly exploitative industry.

BruFord · 02/08/2025 03:12

LaMadameCholet · 04/08/2024 13:31

Because it’s none of the parents’ concern, it’s invasive, expensive and unreliable. What a creepy OP.

I agree @LaMadameCholet, it’s nothing to do with young adults’ parents. My DD is 20 and I wouldn’t think of getting involved in her fertility plans. It’s absolutely none of my business.

Btowngirl · 02/08/2025 03:09

I don’t think most people would think of this unless they’ve been through fertility treatment themselves. I think a better option would be a fertility check at 25 to see what’s what and make an informed decision from there. I also think that our parents generation had children younger during peak fertility & had less medical advances in terms of IVF so it just wouldn’t have been on their radar at all!

ChildlessCatLadiesRuleOK · 02/08/2025 03:05

FunnyOrca · 01/08/2025 12:00

I actually have a friend whose mother did offer to freeze her and her sister’s eggs when they were about 19-21. It seemed like a really far off thought at the time.

The girls will now both be mid-thirties and neither has had a child.

Would any doctor even agree to carry out the procedure on a 19 year old?

SarahR71 · 02/08/2025 02:13

Carebearsonmybed · 01/08/2025 20:22

It would be better to help them have babies young.

True but not always possible unfortunately