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To think you're not really that adventurous if you have your husband with you

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GigglingSid · 04/08/2024 05:55

I'm part of a group for families who enjoy travel, nature, camping, outdoor pursuits, both in the UK and abroad. It's not a very single parent friendly group, some of the advice given, particularly around my budget for certain holidays has been very rude. There's been a lot of women commenting 'well my husband will always drive/ put up the tent/ plan routes/ bugger off cycling all day and leave me with the kids.
I've been away this week and have been chatting to various people on the group about hiking routes, camping spots etc. It suddenly struck me that many of these families have credit cards with limitless amounts on them, expensive cars, tents and camping equipment worth thousands and they are also nearly all heteronormative couples. What a different experience trekking though the Sahara as or with a large white man with you compared to my experience as a short, mid thirties woman?
I feel like I've been conned a little bit into thinking I wasn't able to be part of this elite club as I wasn't savvy enough at reading a OS map or that great at kayaking.
But maybe actually being a woman on her own, with two kids, £200 and an Aldi tent makes me the most adventurous of them all?

OP posts:
ttcat37 · 04/08/2024 07:13

Congratulations on being bwaver than all the others. Here’s a sticker, your medal is in the post

To think you're not really that adventurous if you have your husband with you
Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 07:08

@MikeRafone I can and often use normal tents solo however if the weather is liable to change or I'm on a tricky route the pop ups are very handy and quick to put up in a pinch

stayathomer · 04/08/2024 07:06

Lovingsummers

thamk you!! I think my family would appreciate your tent putting up abilities better 😅😅😅 Reading a lot is the best way to becoming a good writer (and writing of course!) Hope you’ve a good read for the weekend and get to sit and enjoy!

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/08/2024 07:05

It's a group for families, so you shouldn't be surprised that dads are there.

They might be nearly all heteronormative, but if they're straight people then they're not "unadventurous" if they're in heterosexual relationships. If you know who you're attracted and not attracted to, you're not adventurous going after a person you know you don't want just to seem exciting, you're an idiot.

"I feel like I've been conned a little bit into thinking I wasn't able to be part of this elite club as I wasn't savvy enough at reading a OS map or that great at kayaking."

I don't get this at all. Conned? Who conned you? Why is it supposed to be elite?

MikeRafone · 04/08/2024 07:03

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 06:45

Most of the solo hikers/campers I know use pop up tents no assembly or dismantling required.
Oh and they're designed to be folded back up by 1 person

Once you can put a tent up solo, it’s fine putting a larger tent up, it’s just a tad more stretching arms out - the principal is the same.

I had a larger tent as although solo I wanted to be able to sit inside on a chair (as was away for a month) so purchased the same as my 2 man tent but larger. Practiced putting up at home, achieved it and went away.

next time want an air tent

Lopity · 04/08/2024 07:02

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 06:29

@GigglingSid you lost me at "hetronomative"

This

DeepRoseFish · 04/08/2024 06:58

I agree OP. Camping as a female single parent is indeed brave and adventurous.

MikeRafone · 04/08/2024 06:56

Did this get lost in translation?

are you a single parent comparing yourself to go on holiday alone whilst couples go together?

Sweetteaplease · 04/08/2024 06:53

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:49

I don't do it as a group. I do it with my DD and sometimes my DH comes along. I hate the idea of doing it in a group. I like to be close to alone in nature.

Getting out to remote areas doesn't have to be expensive. You don't need all the gear but the things I would advise is to make sure you have good footwear and a good PLB. I'll spend on those. Safety is everything as conditions can change very quickly. You need proper clothing. This doesn't have to be expensive but tends to last well, so can be worth an investment. Carry a torch as things can take longer than you think. A group is much safer unless you know what you are doing, as these can be risky activities. Be safe out there. There are already too many rescues of people who don't have the experience for what they take on.

Edited

I'd do it as a group for the risk factor, I'm not adventurous. Sorry this message was meant to be directed at OP ad I realised she's doing this on a group

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:49

Sweetteaplease · 04/08/2024 06:45

Hang on? You're doing this as a group? Well then none of you are participating adventurous, including you OP! 😅

I don't do it as a group. I do it with my DD and sometimes my DH comes along. I hate the idea of doing it in a group. I like to be close to alone in nature.

Getting out to remote areas doesn't have to be expensive. You don't need all the gear but the things I would advise is to make sure you have good footwear and a good PLB. I'll spend on those. Safety is everything as conditions can change very quickly. You need proper clothing. This doesn't have to be expensive but tends to last well, so can be worth an investment. Carry a torch as things can take longer than you think. A group is much safer unless you know what you are doing, as these can be risky activities. Be safe out there. There are already too many rescues of people who don't have the experience for what they take on.

Isthisreasonable · 04/08/2024 06:47

I think you need to go away with other single people rather than the smug married group

Sweetteaplease · 04/08/2024 06:45

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:38

I'd argue someone in the wilderness alone with their DH is more adventurous than someone in a group situation. However, everyone has to take the approach that is safest and best for them and their circumstances. None is better or worse, just different preferences.

Hang on? You're doing this as a group? Well then none of you are participating adventurous, including you OP! 😅

SoOriginal · 04/08/2024 06:45

You don’t sound adventurous. You sound jealous

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 06:45

Scarletrunner · 04/08/2024 06:04

Surely putting up a tent etc is easier with another adult there -don’t understand posters saying it’s the same as being on your own.
Until you’ve done a lot of adventuring it’s definitely easier with another adult to discuss route with, change tyres etc

Most of the solo hikers/campers I know use pop up tents no assembly or dismantling required.
Oh and they're designed to be folded back up by 1 person

Sweetteaplease · 04/08/2024 06:44

Who said they're doing it to be adventurous? Maybe they're just doing it for fun?

pinacollateral · 04/08/2024 06:39

Why is it a competition? If you're having a nice holiday that's all that matters.

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:38

I'd argue someone in the wilderness alone with their DH is more adventurous than someone in a group situation. However, everyone has to take the approach that is safest and best for them and their circumstances. None is better or worse, just different preferences.

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:37

stayathomer · 04/08/2024 06:26

Lovingsummers
ah thank you!! Unfortunately I have tried a lot (I tend to try to prove myself a lot), and I’ll see people struggling not to help/ fix or the like, then they finally will and where eg their part of something looks like it’s from a catalog, mine is all saggy/ half down/ tipping over and they generally end up having to start again with mine!!

It’s ok, I’m a rom com writer- it’s all fuel and I’ll never not try and help😅😅

Who cares if it's saggy if it does the job? :-)

Rom com writing sounds great. I'm not much of a fiction writer but love reading. We all have our strengths and talents, I guess. I'd love to be a better writer myself.

InvisibleBuffy · 04/08/2024 06:37

backinthebox · 04/08/2024 06:01

I think it’s pretty insulting to suggest a married woman can’t be as adventurous as a single woman. I take part in a lot of adventure sport, and train and compete to a very high level (yes, including reading the OS map myself!) Most of it I do on my own but I do also enjoy my husband’s company so he comes along sometimes too. My adventures when he is there are not somehow ‘lesser’ because of his presence.

Edited

I've been seeing an increasing amount of this on social media - people looking down on women simply because they're married or have children, and using the words 'heteronormative' or 'cis'.
It's viewing women as stereotypes and then judging them for it. Really dislike it.
And yes, I've travelled and hiked and camped, on my own, with friends and with both male and female partners. I guess I'm somehow less adventurous with the latter.
Besides there are plenty of people who aren't adventurous, both men and women. Nothing wrong with that either. Everyone is different.

BendingSpoons · 04/08/2024 06:34

Generally these trips will be easier with 2 adults so you can share the jobs, whether that is putting up the tent together or one of you doing the meal prep whilst the other figures out the route and packs the car. Going as a solo adult means you have all the responsibility, so it's potentially more stressful.

Tbh I think you need to find a new Facebook group, or just leave this one. If it is making you feel bad about yourself and your trips, it's not worth it. More adventurous to plan by yourself from scratch!

Hoardasurass · 04/08/2024 06:29

@GigglingSid you lost me at "hetronomative"

stayathomer · 04/08/2024 06:26

Lovingsummers
ah thank you!! Unfortunately I have tried a lot (I tend to try to prove myself a lot), and I’ll see people struggling not to help/ fix or the like, then they finally will and where eg their part of something looks like it’s from a catalog, mine is all saggy/ half down/ tipping over and they generally end up having to start again with mine!!

It’s ok, I’m a rom com writer- it’s all fuel and I’ll never not try and help😅😅

TorroFerney · 04/08/2024 06:23

I hate the word hetronormative, everything has to have a label these days. So they are rude because they are rude, nothing to do with them being a couple or which sex they prefer shagging and I’m not sure that’s how you define adventurous.

what I would struggle with is the oh my husband doesn’t pull his weight at home comments especially if they are framed as “oh men what are they like leaving us women with the kids”. It’s the same as the oh women always spending my money , always getting parcels arriving she’s bought. I just don’t recognise those roles in my house and hate the inference that I am part of those roles.

Izzymoon · 04/08/2024 06:23

Not really, no, being poorer doesn’t automatically make your more adventurous. It also doesn’t automatically make you better than them nor them worse than you for having partners.

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 06:19

stayathomer · 04/08/2024 06:17

I wouldn’t and couldn’t do most camping stuff on my own, I have no upper body strength, my ability to work things out is shit, dh is the opposite. Personally I’m embarrassed I’m so crap at these sort of things

I have friends who can easily do a lot of this stuff. Well done for being able to do it but please don’t think too much about the people who can’t- sometimes it sounds like people are smug marrieds (taking Bridget Jones’ phrase!), but they might not mean it. If they are asshole you being the bigger person is better for both you and your child as opposed to smirking back at them and being smug and bitter (also don’t go on holidays with people you don’t like again- not worth it!! Oh and well done on the tent etc!!)

You might surprise yourself. People make admiring noises about what I do and I just tell them that I just decide to do it and do it. I'm not super fit or anything, I just go and do it. I'm not saying everyone should do that but I am not aware of any conditions I have that would make it a bad idea.

ETA: Before I do anything I research it thoroughly, make sure I have maps and carry all the safety gear that is sensible. Anyone going far from civilisation should carry a registered PLB and know how to use it.

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