To think you're not really that adventurous if you have your husband with you

What is a PLB?

I get what you mean, that big credit card and extra pair of hands means there is so much less planning and such a bigger safety net. People with both are having a different experience.

I don’t 100% get the point of your post OP. Are you miffed as random people from the group are coming up to you proclaiming their own adventurous spirits and you are saying they are frauds? Surely people are just their for the camping or whatever not in a competition with other group
members about who is the most hardcore?

Agree with you OP. Having more than one adult on a trip makes things massively easier in terms of spending power, safety, and logistics.

Not sure that translates as more adventurous, but definitely harder and you have to be more on the ball.

Reading an OS map used to be taught in school. But my parents got there first - I could read one before I left primary school. Ask one of your group to help you.

Depends whether the other adult behaves like a spoilt 5 year old

can be easier when they fuck off

Wow, amazed you manage any of that with that big chip on your shoulder.

Undoubtedly as a single woman without advantage of physical strength, whether that comes in the form of your own abilities or a man in tow, you will have a harder time of it with physical stuff. Less money makes it harder. You are doing a great job OP. However as a general rule, self praise, especially when it comes with negative comparison with others, tends to get peoples back ups so and will likely end with you being roundly told off and your endeavours minimised, which I'm sure is the opposite you're hoping for. People can no doubt see for themselves its harder for you if they have any intelligence at all, and will acknowledge or praise as they see fit.

YABU

Reverse snobbery at it's finest.

Not sure why people have got so offended by your post. I’d say it’s pretty obvious that most things are easier with another adult around to help.

I've not read the whole thread but I totally agree with you, OP.

I've been both single and coupled over the years, and adventures are so much easier with a partner. Doing it on your own takes extra competence, physical strength and courage.

And also, expensive kit makes things easier too - to do stuff without the posh kit definitely increases the difficulty of a given adventure.

You’re misusing the term heteronormative, OP.

My DH is short and not white. Does this mean that I’m More Adventurous than a woman married to a tall, white guy?

Would you think the same about two females going camping or are you just looking to shit on straight married women? Now I’m not straight so I’m not taking offence but that’s a bloody weird generalisation

The implication of your title is really condescending and I'm not sure why that was needed. Yes travelling is easier if you do it with another adult ,maybe in some areas with a man. If you have a bigger budget you can make different choices. I'm.not sure about more or less adventurous, I think that's the wrong word. I admire woman who travel solo as I would not have the confidence to.

Single woman here and agree that travelling on your own is a very different experience, even when travelling with friends.

Bravery is about doing something without knowing the outcome or safety net. Travelling on your own- very brave

I can do anything a man can do, and I’m a tall, heteronormative white woman. So does that make me the most adventurous of all?

I agree absolutely, having travelled a lot both alone and with DP. You are being more adventurous and taking bigger risks, OP. But looking back, I was foolhardy taking some of the risks I took while travelling alone, so you are wise going with a group.

I wish you a wonderful time and a safe return!

Have fun! Bring a torch. I learned that one the hard way even though it all worked out. lol. Now I'm educated and know what I'm doing. ;-)

I think it would be reckless for any lone parent to take children into the wilds without a thorough backup plan / standby support.

I assure you that when I am being 'adventurous', I am not necessarily having a good time a chunk of the time. It can be very hard work and not fun at all in that moment. However, the sense of accomplishment at the end is great and worth it.

I hope everyone has a good weekend adventuring in whatever way is meaningful for them (or not). I'm off to do some very non-adventurous reading (though I've discovered a new favourite author, so maybe that's adventurous?) in my non-adventurous detached house.

I would say that like all tents you get what you pay for when it comes to weather proofing as the cheap population tent my ds uses in the garden is absolutely crap however my expensive 1 has never leaked and folds up to half the size of the cheap 1.
I hadn't realised that camping sites had started using the single person penalty as I only wild camp (legally in Scotland) and just carry out everything including rubbish, it makes camping most weekends affordable 😀

But hasn't named one thing these people have done to 'make her feel less than'.

Apart from being heteronormative (which I think Op is using incorrectly), having some financial security and being married.

If other people just existing makes someone feel less than, then that's something that's not them doing anything. That's a problem the person needs to look internally to resolve. And trying to find ways to out others down and elevate yourself isn't the way to do it.

Agree op, definitely not as easy for you as it is for them and they probably don’t realise how privileged they are. Big up ya self. YANBU

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Enjoy!!! Know the feeling of rushing it all down- that’s my draft 1- next drafts I add the details- sometimes you want to bang your head off a wall with it all alright😅 Enjoy the indoors- on our way out for a hike, possibly in the rain! Kids thrilled😅

I might have got my analogy about Everest the wrong way round but I don’t know and I need a coffee.