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To think you're not really that adventurous if you have your husband with you

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GigglingSid · 04/08/2024 05:55

I'm part of a group for families who enjoy travel, nature, camping, outdoor pursuits, both in the UK and abroad. It's not a very single parent friendly group, some of the advice given, particularly around my budget for certain holidays has been very rude. There's been a lot of women commenting 'well my husband will always drive/ put up the tent/ plan routes/ bugger off cycling all day and leave me with the kids.
I've been away this week and have been chatting to various people on the group about hiking routes, camping spots etc. It suddenly struck me that many of these families have credit cards with limitless amounts on them, expensive cars, tents and camping equipment worth thousands and they are also nearly all heteronormative couples. What a different experience trekking though the Sahara as or with a large white man with you compared to my experience as a short, mid thirties woman?
I feel like I've been conned a little bit into thinking I wasn't able to be part of this elite club as I wasn't savvy enough at reading a OS map or that great at kayaking.
But maybe actually being a woman on her own, with two kids, £200 and an Aldi tent makes me the most adventurous of them all?

OP posts:
Namename12345562 · 04/08/2024 09:14

HappilyContentTheseDays · 04/08/2024 08:40

Of course it's easier when there are two of you, or when you travel in a group. Each to their own. But I do agree it's more challenging to go to many places in the world as a single woman for instance. I've travelled alone for many years - Egypt as a lone female was a shock! Fine if you're flying out to a resort and staying in a tourist, protected hotel complex. Definitely more challenging if you're out with the locals and travelling up and down the Nile....

I have been to many Asian countries, trekked across deserts, climbing in Patagonia, up mountains and into rainforests....and many other unusual places over the years. All on my own although often hiring local guides for information or to get me from one place to another. Yes, I feel adventurous. I also think that if you go with partner/family or group of best friends, you will tend to stick with them (naturally) and you won't be forced to build relationships with the locals, nor have to adapt to local conditions to get by. Not everyone wants to do this, obviously, but I have found I learn the most by travelling by myself, and have come away knowing so much more about the joys and challenges of everyday life in the countries I have travelled in.

But that's just me. As others have said, it isn't a competition; however, personally I would only choose to travel alone these days, I love it!

Yes, the situation of being on your own forces you to have to make these kind of efforts. If you’re with a partner or friend it’s a different experience that doesn’t require the same effort, nothing wrong with that either it’s just how it ends up happening 🤷🏻‍♀️

Left · 04/08/2024 09:13

Hey OP, there are single parent holiday groups and single people adventure groups which might be better for you to find more folks in the same situation x

kiddietaxi · 04/08/2024 09:12

Are they are actually telling you that you aren’t adventurous because you have a smaller budget and no other adults to share the load? Or are you just assuming they think that because people have made oblivious comments? It sounds like you are irritated by hearing others being praised for ‘adventurous’ trips when said trips are really expensive and therefore only open to those with money.

I can see the annoyance if you come up against one of those particularly annoying types who competitively count countries they’ve ’done’ (like one can ‘do’ an entire country in a week 🙄), where it is clearly just budget that determines where you can go. If they imply you are not adventurous because you haven’t ‘done’ an Antarctic ‘expedition’ cruise or gorilla trekking tour like they have, then of course yanbu.

PostMenPatWithACat · 04/08/2024 09:11

I'm adventurous but don't like roughing it or sport. I'm also married. @GigglingSid that must make me the lowest of the low.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 09:09

littleburn · 04/08/2024 08:52

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo as I said in my first post, she should join a different group! I can't answer your other questions as I'm not the OP.

I didn’t suggest you were the Op. bit confused there.

LeFromage · 04/08/2024 09:08

Is there a single parents camping group you could find to join OP? I think that you are taking more risks than the others simply because there’s only 1 adult to do the work and you have less budget to throw at a problem if something goes wrong so I get your thinking. But I also think you feel a bit excluded being a single parent and it might be making you feel resentful - or can you find another single mum to team up with if you want to? It sounds to me like you find the other parents a bit smug

Namename12345562 · 04/08/2024 09:08

Scarletrunner · 04/08/2024 06:04

Surely putting up a tent etc is easier with another adult there -don’t understand posters saying it’s the same as being on your own.
Until you’ve done a lot of adventuring it’s definitely easier with another adult to discuss route with, change tyres etc

Yes, it is easier with another adult! Having been on both sides it is just objectively easier unless the other adult is lazy, unhelpful etc

InSpainTheRain · 04/08/2024 09:02

Being "adventurous" (whatever that really means) isn't the objective though. Surely it's about enjoying your own company or enjoying who you're with, and what you are doing. Whether that's your kids, DH, friends etc and camping, being in a posh hotel, it doesn't matter. It doesn't need to be a competition

Lovingsummers · 04/08/2024 09:00

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/08/2024 08:45

It's just "who's the tourist and who's a real traveller" for older people...

I can pick them at the trail head. The ones who head in dressed completely inappropriately (dangerously even), not carrying enough water, if any at all. No equipment.

The last wilderness adventure I did a week ago, I saw a group of six people like this heading in. Last night I read of one of the regular rescues in the area having happened again.

To be fair, I started out with a lot to learn myself and made some mistakes, but we learned on the easier trails.

Whynottrythis · 04/08/2024 09:00

I planned a holiday by myself when I was a teenager. Dad wanted to come with me but I wanted to go alone. It did feel more adventurous. But if we'd gone together (and in hindsight I wish we had had that time together), I'd still be me, and just as adventurous as a person.

I think travelling alone gives different experiences. If I travel alone I'm much more likely to talk to people I haven't met before, chat to local women who might not talk to me if a foreign man was present, and be more spontaneous.

On the other hand, there are holidays I think you'd be insane to do alone as a single woman. Much too dangerous. I wouldn't view that as adventurous, just stupid.

SpaceHogger · 04/08/2024 08:59

I'm part of a group for families who enjoy travel, nature, camping, outdoor pursuits, both in the UK and abroad

Ha, so you are not that adventurous at all. You are part of a group. You are complaining about women having partners and a bit of extra cash to cushion them, but you have the security, and company of the whole group around you.

I’ve lived and worked in 4 others countries, where they don’t speak English. I’ve done some really out there things, and not in a group.

Camping in the UK and abroad……WOW, how amazing.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 04/08/2024 08:56

It's not a competition. I'm sure they are enjoying their adventures, while you are feeling all resentful and morally superior about the fact that they're not doing it 'properly'. What a weird attitude.

Miffylou · 04/08/2024 08:54

What has the fact that they are heteronormative got to do with anything? Not edgy enough to make you feel daring?

If you don’t like the people in the group, find a different group.

littleburn · 04/08/2024 08:52

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo as I said in my first post, she should join a different group! I can't answer your other questions as I'm not the OP.

Anonym00se · 04/08/2024 08:50

I think they should all get divorced and give away all their possessions. They may lose everything, but at least they’ll be a bit more adventurous on a camping trip.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 08:49

littleburn · 04/08/2024 08:45

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo in the OP's first paragraph she says, 'it's not a very single parent friendly group, some of the advice given, particularly around my budget for certain holidays has been very rude.' Which I read as being made to feel 'less than' by other members of the group because her budget is viewed as sub par.

But what are they saying that's rude? And why would yiu remain in the group if you think they are being rude and cant give advice that helps because they don't understand.

Op has only referenced them talking about their own trips. With their own family.

And then tried to make her own competition about who is really more adventurous.

StoatofDisarray · 04/08/2024 08:49

2021x · 04/08/2024 07:44

Single woman here and agree that travelling on your own is a very different experience, even when travelling with friends.

Bravery is about doing something without knowing the outcome or safety net. Travelling on your own- very brave

She's not on her own, she's part of a group!

Wakeywake · 04/08/2024 08:48

Sure, it's easier to travel when you've got money and a partner, but that's nothing to do with being less adventurous. Such a strange post.

Edingril · 04/08/2024 08:48

TinyGingerCat · 04/08/2024 08:29

Why does it matter? Are there points being handed out somewhere based on how adventurous you are? I'm also quite amazed that people tell you they have a credit card and how much the holiday has cost them.

I think it is some people need to put others down for them to feel good about themselves

SpaceHogger · 04/08/2024 08:46

Oh dear, is this the new hated group, women still with their DH’s, in a family unit with their DC?

OP why don’t you save your breath to cool your porridge. You just sound bitter TBH.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 04/08/2024 08:46

Rubyred3 · 04/08/2024 08:41

Hi OP
As a single parent, I can understand if you have felt hurt by their comments, and that you would want them to be more sensitive to your situation.

But they aren't going to change. You would be better off finding a group that is nicer to be around. All round, that would be better for you and nicer for your child too.

What?

So people commenting in this group how they organise things, or moaning their husbands bugger off for the day should be sensitive incase there's a single parent in the group?

It's not a single parents group. It's a camping group. I was a single parent for a long time so it's not like I don't know what it's like to be one.

But if you feel offended by people talking about camping in a camping group because they talk about the other adult they are camping with, the problem is with you. And you need to seek groups for only single parents.

NonPlayerCharacter · 04/08/2024 08:45

It's just "who's the tourist and who's a real traveller" for older people...

Meadowwild · 04/08/2024 08:45

I just think you are adventuring with the wrong people. Go in a group of solo travellers who help each other put up tents and navigate routes.

It can be more adventurous to do absolutely everything all by yourself (watch the film Tracks - true story of young woman who crossed Australia on wild camels she'd trained herself.) But it can also be astoundingly adventurous to do something with the help of loads of friends. (Watch Nyad, true story, not heteronormative at all!)

littleburn · 04/08/2024 08:45

@ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo in the OP's first paragraph she says, 'it's not a very single parent friendly group, some of the advice given, particularly around my budget for certain holidays has been very rude.' Which I read as being made to feel 'less than' by other members of the group because her budget is viewed as sub par.

crostini · 04/08/2024 08:44

Are you hetronormative and white? Because you mention those things about others in the group as though they're relevant to this situation, but not your own sexuality or ethnicity.
Of course camping is easier as a pair, but seems like your looking for ways to feel negative/judged/judgy.

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