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Saying no to childcare in the holidays

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Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:03

I today put my foot down and said no to my DSIL asking me to look after her three DC for two days next week. I have DC of my own and I am a full time mum while my DH works long hours. Last week I looked after my DN’s for two days. I I get my DSIL works and I am always happy to help but this is turning into more than the odd day. Of course my DBIL
has spoke to my DH about this and how disappointed he is etc etc. I don’t want to fall out but I feel enough is enough. I plan my DC activities in the holidays and next week two have swimming and one a drama group. this gives me a chance to catch up on jobs. So when DSIL asked me again and for three days I said no. It took me a lot to say no but now I feel
like a pig in the middle.
anyone else who is a full time mum feel like they are being took advantage of.

OP posts:
WickieRoy · 04/08/2024 17:24

Sinderalla · 04/08/2024 17:19

What's "CF"?

Cheeky fucker.

Sinderalla · 04/08/2024 17:22

Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:40

Thank you for your comments. I am going to stick to my guns. I mentioned well before summer of different clubs that were bookable etc but my DSIL didn’t book anything. My DBIL has said they have no leave left as they went to America for a month in april taking the DC out of school. My DH has no said to DBIL that he supports my decision and we are busy for the week. I no it will not be the end of it but I am not backing down. My eldest even said this morning he is looking forward to a quieter house ) he is very shy and likes his space )

Do you have them all day? Does she send food for them?

Sinderalla · 04/08/2024 17:19

Epicaricacy · 03/08/2024 22:34

You made a huge financial sacrifice to stay home, why should other people benefit?

If your SIL hasn't offered a swap (have mine 2 days, I'll have yours 2 days) she is a CF. You wouldn't have to accept a swap anyway, you have your own life.

You have plans, sorry you cannot help. Nothing else needed.

What's "CF"?

Poppinjay · 04/08/2024 17:16

Aprilmaymum · 04/08/2024 12:11

Reply from DSIL. She was very upset as her DC were crying when she told them I had said no. They were looking forward to being with their cousins. So now I am the bad auntie who has let them down.
she has asked can I at least do one day.

If your DC would enjoy seeing their cousins, message her and suggest you have a family meet-up at some point that includes all of the relevant parents, rather than you having to look after 6 children by yourself

Goldcushions2 · 04/08/2024 17:16

Only manipulative scum would send a message having deliberately upset her children and tried to use their upset to guilt a generous person into MORE free childcare.

Scum who never return the favour.
Keep your distance OP and find your anger.

Rainbow1901 · 04/08/2024 17:13

Time to go NC @Aprilmaymum - how awful for you to be put in such a position - that is out and out manipulation on their part.

If Sil is so keen for the cousins to be together arrange a date ......................on the very last day of the summer holidays!! Cheeky mare!!

nutbrownhare15 · 04/08/2024 17:10

In reply to families help each other out say great when can you provide childcare for our kids as I'm sure you'd love to return the favour and I'm sure it must have just slipped your mind to offer

Greatbritish · 04/08/2024 17:09

Aprilmaymum · 04/08/2024 13:52

I have said no as I have plans for the week and it is hard to do things with 6 DC. I don’t want to fall out with anyone as we do as a family have a good respectful relationship. I think my problem was allowing myself to be available at the drop of a hat and not saying anything before. I hope now we can move on as a family and not let this get in the way.

Excellent.

And just say the same if she asks next week. Or the week after.

Sinderalla · 04/08/2024 17:05

F that.
Tell DH to do it.
Silently leave their lives

Lilysgoneshopping · 04/08/2024 17:02

So they went off to America for a month?
That's 8 weeks worth of holiday time between them and they expect free childcare from you?
Stop with the niceties and tell them to get fucked

Drizzlethru · 04/08/2024 16:56

Aprilmaymum · 04/08/2024 12:11

Reply from DSIL. She was very upset as her DC were crying when she told them I had said no. They were looking forward to being with their cousins. So now I am the bad auntie who has let them down.
she has asked can I at least do one day.

I am sure they do not need 8hrs plus to be with their cousins. Perhaps arrange to visit them one Sunday afternoon if they wish to see your children.

Frankcat19 · 04/08/2024 16:55

You are definitely not being unreasonable. I am a full time teacher and I obviously get the holidays off. A couple of friends this year have asked if I can help out with childcare. I have 3 children of my own, a classroom to sort, a house to sort as that slips in term time and I am just exhausted. Also my husband works from home so I try to minimise the noise and adding extra children means I can't go out in the car. I found it hard to say no as I like to help but also I thought it was a bit cheeky. I don't ask them to use their annual leave to look after my children. As it is I have had their children round a couple of times as they are friends of my children but it is on my terms, on days that suit me and for a few hours rather than an 8 hour day.

CareerChange24 · 04/08/2024 16:55

Aprilmaymum · 03/08/2024 22:13

He said I have plans. He will support me but the whole family no doubt will get involved.

Sounds like his family bully you. Your husbands need to put an end to that.

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/08/2024 16:43

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/08/2024 16:40

I’d send her and BIL a message saying “heard your children are upset at not seeing [dc names], if you want to have my children over on one of your days off work, do let me know.”

people like this always want to maintain family relationships, and cousins are important people for their dcs to spend time with, right up until the point they have to do the work.

Bingo.

SIL would run a mile if you expected her to have six kids for 10 hours.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 04/08/2024 16:40

I’d send her and BIL a message saying “heard your children are upset at not seeing [dc names], if you want to have my children over on one of your days off work, do let me know.”

people like this always want to maintain family relationships, and cousins are important people for their dcs to spend time with, right up until the point they have to do the work.

Purplecatshopaholic · 04/08/2024 16:33

Robinnohood · 03/08/2024 22:15

I think it’s really cheeky. The odd day to help out when desperate but it shouldn’t be expected. You’re a sahm by choice not to facilitate others children.

Exactly. Theres a big difference between 3 kids and six as well! Stick to your guns op, she’s cheeky, entitled and rude.

LookItsMeAgain · 04/08/2024 16:33

Aprilmaymum · 04/08/2024 12:11

Reply from DSIL. She was very upset as her DC were crying when she told them I had said no. They were looking forward to being with their cousins. So now I am the bad auntie who has let them down.
she has asked can I at least do one day.

On this comment I'd let rip to the whole family to make sure that EVERYONE knows what you have said to the comment and for me it would go like something like this:

Sil - I am disgusted that you have tried to use your children to blackmail me into looking after your kids for you while you go out to work. Just because I don't work outside the home doesn't mean that I don't work, nor does it mean that I am your on-call childminder whenever you or BiL feel like it. I've been contacted by every single member of the family saying that I've upset you, and you are crying and your kids are upset. Well I can tell you now, I am furious. You should never have told your children that they would be able to spend time with their cousins BEFORE something had been arranged. This is entirely YOUR fault here and I will not accept any part in it. I am unavailable to look after Billy and George for the remainder of the summer so please stop asking now. You and BiL need to arrange your own paid childcare for your kids. Their childcare is not my issue to resolve for you.

Or perhaps something less wordy but that gets the same point across.

I'm livid on your behalf here @Aprilmaymum. They have brass necks, both BiL and his oh-so-presumptuous wife of his.

Drizzlethru · 04/08/2024 16:33

EVery parent s entitled to 18 weeks unpaid parental leave in total until the age of 18. N more than 4 weeks in a year. Has to be taken as a full week.

if they book that today, in 21 days they are allowed to use it, so that will cover the end of the holidays, if go back as late as my kids do - or Oct half term sorted.

i am sure you are losing out on pension contributions and financially by choosing to be at home, whereas they have chosen pensions and income. Does not mean other people have to pay for their choices.

wayfairer · 04/08/2024 16:31

I would make sure I am either out or doorbell is off and block her for the 3 days incase she decides to turn up and drop them off anyway!

Freeyourmind · 04/08/2024 16:27

I would really struggle to be friends with her after telling the children you said no, I wouldn’t be friends with someone who twisted facts like that. Acquaintances yes, for family sake but friends no. I’d leave it to the brothers to ensure the cousins keep their bond in future. Dragging other family members into it and again twisting facts (or actually not even telling the story at all) is very manipulative.

WickieRoy · 04/08/2024 16:21

mumedu · 04/08/2024 16:16

They now need to take days off for emergency childcare reasons. I bet they'll never forget to book holiday club again. Don't cave in to the pressure.

Agreed.

anothernewstart9 · 04/08/2024 16:20

comingintomyown · 04/08/2024 15:43

What is the saying Let no good deed go unpunished ?
Last week you looked after them to help but now you are a bad guy because you won’t do the same again ? I wouldn’t forget that in a hurry and would be doing zero child care for them because there clearly no appreciation whatsoever.

Spot on!

mumedu · 04/08/2024 16:17

GoldenLegend · 04/08/2024 16:08

You need to say no to any request for childcare from them, from this moment onwards. If you don't, it's guaranteed to escalate.

Exactly this. If you give an inch, things will quickly balloon out of control. You need to have a clean and clear cut 'no'.

Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 04/08/2024 16:17

I’m sure your family will respect you for standing up for yourself

mumedu · 04/08/2024 16:16

They now need to take days off for emergency childcare reasons. I bet they'll never forget to book holiday club again. Don't cave in to the pressure.