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I’ve never been so hated! AIBU?

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PeachyPotatoes · 03/08/2024 20:00

My husband and I have been going through a very difficult time over the last 3 years. We recently had a very bad patch - we both made mistakes, and decided to separate. We have since worked through this and are giving things another go. We have two young children, so it’s been a particularly stressful time ensuring their needs and happiness are prioritised.

My MIL, who has never liked me, has jumped at the chance to tell my husband what a disease of a woman I am - making up lies that I’m a shoplifting, drug addled, alcoholic (amongst many other ridiculous
lies). I’ve offered to speak with her to clear the air, but she’s having none of it.

In the midst of all this, I let a friend down - I apologised, explaining our rubbish circumstances and offering to help in any other way I could; I was unfortunately hospitalised a week later, missing the birthday party of my friend’s child.

Since then, I’ve had no contact with my friend; We bumped into them today and they couldn’t have avoided me more. It was really awful.

My SIL has also sent me obscene, threatening messages - I’m being pressured by my family to repair this.

I want to focus on my family and my marriage. But I feel so hated. It’s very difficult to focus on fixing things with my husband when I’m being threatened, my friends have all but disappeared, and my MIL is listing all the reasons my husband should leave me at every opportunity.

AIBU to have expected support from my friends and family instead of being ostracised and demonised? I feel completely battered.

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Theunamedcat · 06/08/2024 13:54

With regards to him taking the children

My ex husband was warned that if his mother continued to run her nasty mouth around our children (basically accusing me of everything from the death of christ to the present day) that they would make a reccomendation to the court that he not be allowed to have his children anywhere near her as it was emotional abuse parental alienation and emotional neglect on his part

Lurkingandlearning · 06/08/2024 11:02

Your husband agreed MIL wouldn’t be seeing your children while she continues this vendetta against and then went back on that. Is that right?

If so he’s badly lacking in integrity. Why the change of mind about your children spending time with he? Did he explain that?

Or had he lied to shut you up knowing full well he wasn’t going to keep your children away from her?

That wouldn’t solely be in support of you, he shouldn’t want his children to listen to her nasty lies.

MiddleagedBeachbum · 05/08/2024 22:50

your situation resonated with something I went through about 10 years ago, my whole world sort of seemed to collapse under me at once, and it felt like everyone hated me

all I can advise is ride the storm, this will pass, and tall ships weren’t built to stay in harbour xx

Goldcushions2 · 05/08/2024 22:40

It's not an affair if they were separated at the time.
Screw anyone trying to stick their nose into your marriage.
Your husband was and probably still is a selfish pig.

ANiceBigCupOfTea · 05/08/2024 20:09

You were left with no support during a really rough period of health. In a marriage you work around everything else to make them a priority when they're ill and you didn't get that from your husband.
Did your husband see anyone while you were separated? I don't say this lightly but frankly I don't blame you for having your head turned going on how distant and unsupportive he has been.
How were you and MiL before all this happened, were you previously on good terms or did you always have a rocky relationship?
As for your friend, explain to her what happened and why you couldn't make it to the party. If she's a true friend she will understand. If not, don't waste time and energy on someone who doesn't care for you.

Epicaricacy · 05/08/2024 17:40

Who cares about the in-laws, it's natural they are siding against you, but it's not your problem
Forget about MIL and SIL, they don't matter. They might get over it, they might not, totally unimportant.

Try to approach your friend

and the one you really need to work on is your husband. All said and done, you had an affair, it's a lot to take on and then move on.

Paganpentacle · 05/08/2024 17:38

StormingNorman · 05/08/2024 17:36

So people can treat your family badly and you don’t have any feelings about that? OK. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

If her HUSBAND is fine with her.,... then yes.
What did OP do to the MiL?

StormingNorman · 05/08/2024 17:36

Paganpentacle · 05/08/2024 17:31

She owes the i laws nothing, and doesn't answer to them
If her husband is fine,.,, so should they be.,

So people can treat your family badly and you don’t have any feelings about that? OK. We’ll have to agree to disagree.

Paganpentacle · 05/08/2024 17:31

StormingNorman · 04/08/2024 08:20

I’m going to go against the grain and say you need to work on fixing the relationships with your in laws. You messed up and need to own it. It’s a relatable story so they will probably come around and have more respect for you for addressing it. I don’t think asking DH to keep you and his family separate is fair on him or going to make your reconciliation any easier.

She owes the i laws nothing, and doesn't answer to them
If her husband is fine,.,, so should they be.,

Boomer55 · 05/08/2024 16:59

PeachyPotatoes · 03/08/2024 21:29

Thanks for the replies.

My husband has told MIL to stop - time will tell.

In terms of mistakes that were made - I felt completely isolated and neglected for years by my husband. Having given up my career to raise our children, and him having a job in which he works away for extended periods, it was very lonely. I have no support network close by. I had numerous health issues, including meningitis, multiple miscarriages, sepsis and TB, all within a year - I was eventually diagnosed with coeliac disease which was the root cause of my health issues. Throughout this, my husband was unsupportive and just not really there for me. I addressed this with him many times but nothing changed. I eventually told him I wanted to separate, and then foolishly was flattered by someone else. I had a brief fling with said person, before reconciling with my husband. I have thus been branded an adulterer (even though we were not together at the time - I do appreciate the rubbish timing of it though). That’s the whole of it. My husband has forgiven me. As MIL has never been a fan of mine, it seems she now feels vindicated in her hatred and has made up several ludicrous claims, none of which are true.

In regards to my friend, I don’t want to put too much information on here. They’ve been such a good friend to me and asked me for a small favour (before the child’s party), which I committed to. This unfortunately happened to be the day everything blew up with my husband and I and I totally forgot about my promise to help my friend. I immediately apologised, but I know I left them in a difficult situation and I feel very bad about it.

I’m not sure where to go from here. How to repair a marriage when everyone else seems to keen on tearing it down?

So, you had an affair? If your in laws knew about it, then they will react. Thats normal.🤷‍♀️

MovingToLondonSoon · 05/08/2024 16:33

PeachyPotatoes · 04/08/2024 15:21

I’ve already explained that she has made up these lies. I can’t begin to fathom her reasoning.

Ok. I am fascinated to know how this conversation went. Presumably your husband has said to you 'my mum has told me that you've been taking drugs, shoplifting and that you have a serious drink problem.'

And how did your husband react to her? How did you react to him telling you all this? You may not be able to fathom her reasoning, but surely your husband demanded that she should justify or explain her comments? What kind of a person makes up such serious and outlandish accusations and more importantly, what kind of a person hears that about themselves and doesn't immediately want to get to the bottom of it? It's very odd.

You say you've offered to speak with her to clear the air and she's 'having none of it'. Well sod that. If this were my MIL making such serious accusations about me, based on goodness only knows what, I'd not be 'offering' to clear the air, I'd be banging her door down and demanding to clear it.

Wendysfriend · 05/08/2024 14:27

You've been through a lot.

I think you need to definitely decide whether you want to continue in the marriage, I know you said you are both working on it and love each other etc but you both need to set boundaries, sensible ones that you both can work with.

Remember if you separated the children will spend time with her. It's not OK she bad mouths you in front of the children and your dh needs to be made aware that this is one of your boundaries .

With regards to friends, hospital stays, forgetting stuff that's all normal when your life is upside down. I find writing your apologies and reasons can explain properly, email, card, text. Explain again to your friend and if she a good friend she'll understand and forgive, I had my niece turn up at my house last week, totally forgot I had arranged for her to stay, I thought sister would have stopped the visit as my disabled dd was blue lighted to hospital where she stayed for a week, but sister thought we'd somehow enjoy the extra chaos, we both think we're right and now not speaking.

With regards to your sil, that's another boundary you need to set with your dh, if she can't be civilised then you block her.

pasturesgreen · 05/08/2024 14:23

My husband agreed, and said that as long as she was unwilling to make peace with me, it meant she wouldn’t see our DC. Days later, MIL has invited husband and DC for a visit. And husband wants to go with our children.

I'm sorry to say this really doesn't bode well for your future as a couple, OP. You need to both be on the same page and you need to be able to trust him to be able to deal with his DM in a constructive way. Otherwise there's no going forward.

squirrelnutkin10 · 05/08/2024 14:16

This is going to be tough op as for your marriage to survive you need to be united completely with DH, against MIL.
Is he strong enough and committed enough to stand strongly with you for years?

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 05/08/2024 14:11

No you can’t stop him from taking them. They are his children not just yours.

I would say if you think he can’t be trusted to ensure the kids don’t over hear something damaging then you really need to rethinking everything.

Goldcushions2 · 05/08/2024 14:06

Absolutely not.
Take it that if your husband is happy to do this, he is NO longer committed to your marriage and move forward that you will be divorcing.

He cannot have it both ways.

You cannot stop him taking your children with him to his mothers when you are no longer married, but while you still are you can tell him it is 100% a deal breaker.

You are fooling yourself if you think your marriage has legs whilst he is happy to allow his mother behave towards you like this.

Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrringles · 05/08/2024 12:55

PeachyPotatoes · 05/08/2024 12:43

We now have the new issue that MIL wants to see my husband (absolutely fine, of course), and my DC. I’m not fine with that. She has always had a terrible habit of talking about people and issues etc which are completely inappropriate for children to hear. I was always able to distract my children when this happened in the past, or take them to another room. With my lack of presence, and the MIL gunning for our divorce, I have no doubt she won’t censor herself in front of them now. I can’t allow that.

My husband agreed, and said that as long as she was unwilling to make peace with me, it meant she wouldn’t see our DC. Days later, MIL has invited husband and DC for a visit. And husband wants to go with our children.

AIBU to say absolutely not?

You can’t stop him from taking them, but I would make sure he knows you aren’t happy about it. I honestly think some MILs engineer situations to get this exact result - their son and Grandchildren to themselves, with the DIL on the outside.
You need your DH on the same page as you to get through this.

PeachyPotatoes · 05/08/2024 12:43

We now have the new issue that MIL wants to see my husband (absolutely fine, of course), and my DC. I’m not fine with that. She has always had a terrible habit of talking about people and issues etc which are completely inappropriate for children to hear. I was always able to distract my children when this happened in the past, or take them to another room. With my lack of presence, and the MIL gunning for our divorce, I have no doubt she won’t censor herself in front of them now. I can’t allow that.

My husband agreed, and said that as long as she was unwilling to make peace with me, it meant she wouldn’t see our DC. Days later, MIL has invited husband and DC for a visit. And husband wants to go with our children.

AIBU to say absolutely not?

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IceCream889 · 04/08/2024 22:01

@PeachyPotatoes how do you know what she is saying if she cut you off? Is your husband telling you these things? My abusive exH used to do that, at the time I thought it was innocent, that he was just relaying what his mother was saying. Years later I realize it was another way to undermine me.

If a relative of mine ever makes a negative comment or joke about my DH, I wouldn't tell him about it. I would 1) stand up for him and 2) leave it at that. Why would I upset my DH with something said by someone he almost never even sees? Why is your husband telling you about the horrible things his mother says?

PeachyPotatoes · 04/08/2024 21:23

DandyClocks · 04/08/2024 18:03

Where were they when her husband was away working and she had health problems and needed supporting???

She doesn’t owe her in-laws anything at this stage.

They clearly felt that her marriage had fuck all to do with them when she could have done with a hand so they now need to fuck off and mind their own business.

OP, don’t engage with those nasty pair of twats. They’re a pair of utter shits.

This is such an interesting perspective. Thank you for your insight. You’re right - my MIL absolutely wasn’t there for me or my husband when any support would have been so, so gratefully received.

I’ve extended the olive branch by offering to talk things through, but she’s opted to cut me out and attack me via my husband.

I’ve done all I can as far as I’m concerned. There would have to be a massive concentrated effort on her part for us to have any sort of polite relationship.

I actually recently realised who she reminds me of - the Mother of Rose in Titanic.

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Goldcushions2 · 04/08/2024 18:16

Your husband is a selfish bastard, shit father, shit husband.
You have NOTHING to apologise for, he has NOTHING to forgive you for.
His family are awful.
Your friend is not being a real friend when you have been through so much.

Re think your marriage. He couldn't possibly love you and be such a selfish pig.

DandyClocks · 04/08/2024 18:03

StormingNorman · 04/08/2024 15:53

She had an affaire, even if they were on a break. She treated their son and brother badly so of course they harbour some ill feeling towards her. This is why I said she needs to explain as it is a relatable story - because of the neglect etc.

Where were they when her husband was away working and she had health problems and needed supporting???

She doesn’t owe her in-laws anything at this stage.

They clearly felt that her marriage had fuck all to do with them when she could have done with a hand so they now need to fuck off and mind their own business.

OP, don’t engage with those nasty pair of twats. They’re a pair of utter shits.

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 04/08/2024 17:13

MovingToLondonSoon · 03/08/2024 20:17

We recently had a very bad patch - we both made mistakes, and decided to separate

What kind of mistakes did you make? Because your MIL telling your husband that you are a drug addled, shoplifting alcoholic is very weird. I mean surely if any of those things are true, your husband is in the best position to know, not his mother?

I can't help feeling there is more to this than you are telling us.

That's the sad thing sometimes on Mumsnet you only get half a story.

Runnerinthenight · 04/08/2024 17:06

StormingNorman · 04/08/2024 16:00

Either way she still needs her own relationships with the in laws and that means talking it out.

No, she doesn't. She owes these people nothing.

I'd be going completely NC with them, because of the MIL's lies and the SIL's obscene messages.

Nobody needs that in their life!

Theunamedcat · 04/08/2024 17:02

Sorry but I wouldn't stay with someone whose family treated me this way

You separated was he a total nun during this separation?
You got back together has anything changes with him apart from his socks?
Why is she going around spouting these easily disproved lies? Shoplifters have court records where are yours? Drug addiction? Call social services then they will test you if you have young children my neighbour had to be tested same day because the neighbours decided she was on cocaine

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