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To be embarrassed to be from Hull right now?

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Chester23 · 03/08/2024 16:09

These "protests" just look like a load of people out for a fight. People on live steams talking about going to get beer and seem to be having a great time.
Causes are lost because of reasons like this? Why would I support you when you are destroying my city? Setting fire to bins? Throwing all sorts at the police. I can't support this.

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ForYouManImADoomBoy · 04/08/2024 10:44

'save our kids' but no one rioted over lucy letby did they? wonder why?

CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 10:43

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 08:20

Given I have been posting disorder is likely I’d say I got it right. Here we are with exactly that.

‘Remember you’ wtf how odd

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Posters online amplifying the "reasonable concerns" and saying that violent disorder is an acceptable response are part of the cause of this.

The mindset is similar to victim blaming excuses "explanations" for male violence in general.

VimtoVimto · 04/08/2024 10:40

2dogsandabudgie · 04/08/2024 10:14

Unrest has been building in this country for years but I think you know that.

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Yes I agree unrest has been stirring but to place all the blame on a government that has been in power for a month is disingenuous.

Tmpnmc86 · 04/08/2024 10:36

I don't understand why those of us who live in cities that have riots should feel embarrassed.
I'm proud of where I live and on the whole we have great people, as is demonstrated by the clean up efforts. I feel no affinity when the people involved in the rioting or their actions.

I'll continue to feel proud to live where I do and contribute where I can.

PandoraSox · 04/08/2024 10:33

Borrowed from another thread:

Dominic Grieve on X :

"It's impossible to view the postings of Farage, without utter revulsion.
He masquerades as a " reasoned commentator" on what he claims to be a national crisis linked to immigrants while claiming he deplores any lawlessness. Then he hints at more lawlessness if his warnings are not heeded.
The reality is that his entire political future is dependent on fomenting confrontation and division. It is by creating a climate of crisis that he has got where he has"

ilovesooty · 04/08/2024 10:30

ArmFromUll · 04/08/2024 10:28

Yes I agree that unrest has been building in this country for years. Actually I'd call it hatred and racism / xenophobia. I place the blame firmly with the racist / xenophobic politicians like Patel, Braverman, Johnson, Anderson, Farage and Tice.

And yet some expect Labour to have unravelled all that in 4 weeks!

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Johnson purging his party of decent Tories who might have challenged him and his racist colleagues won't have helped either.

ArmFromUll · 04/08/2024 10:28

2dogsandabudgie · 04/08/2024 10:14

Unrest has been building in this country for years but I think you know that.

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Yes I agree that unrest has been building in this country for years. Actually I'd call it hatred and racism / xenophobia. I place the blame firmly with the racist / xenophobic politicians like Patel, Braverman, Johnson, Anderson, Farage and Tice.

And yet some expect Labour to have unravelled all that in 4 weeks!

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 10:28

PandoraSox · 04/08/2024 10:18

In a month I’d hope a new gov would not be foolish enough to put in place trafficking policies that cause this

Starmer's trafficking policies caused this?

Half the thugs would not even know what "trafficking policies" mean. Were they shouting slogans about it? No, they were shouting about Muslims and the p word.

Trying to blame this on anything other than racism, encouraged and orchestrated by the far right, is shameful.

It also makes me wonder about that poster's motivations, tbh.

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I’d prefer to avoid riots altogether so that is incorrect.

Some countries will see this more than others due to decisions made on policy

BIossomtoes · 04/08/2024 10:23

PandoraSox · 04/08/2024 10:18

In a month I’d hope a new gov would not be foolish enough to put in place trafficking policies that cause this

Starmer's trafficking policies caused this?

Half the thugs would not even know what "trafficking policies" mean. Were they shouting slogans about it? No, they were shouting about Muslims and the p word.

Trying to blame this on anything other than racism, encouraged and orchestrated by the far right, is shameful.

It also makes me wonder about that poster's motivations, tbh.

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Absolutely. Organised racist violence is what it is. Some people are definitely revealing their true colours here.

Third time of asking - when did you foresee riots @EasternStandard?

PandoraSox · 04/08/2024 10:18

In a month I’d hope a new gov would not be foolish enough to put in place trafficking policies that cause this

Starmer's trafficking policies caused this?

Half the thugs would not even know what "trafficking policies" mean. Were they shouting slogans about it? No, they were shouting about Muslims and the p word.

Trying to blame this on anything other than racism, encouraged and orchestrated by the far right, is shameful.

It also makes me wonder about that poster's motivations, tbh.

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 10:17

2dogsandabudgie · 04/08/2024 10:14

Unrest has been building in this country for years but I think you know that.

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Not just here, there has been in other EU countries.

Initially I thought it would build over time but the statement on smash the gangs made me think it would be that approach that does it

2dogsandabudgie · 04/08/2024 10:14

BIossomtoes · 04/08/2024 10:10

When did you foresee riots @EasternStandard?

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Unrest has been building in this country for years but I think you know that.

BIossomtoes · 04/08/2024 10:10

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 10:05

I see. "No answer came the stern reply".

When did you foresee riots @EasternStandard?

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 10:10

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 10:05

I see. "No answer came the stern reply".

To what?

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 10:05

I see. "No answer came the stern reply".

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 09:50

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 09:33

Oh. Planning for possible future outcomes, good practice. Covid enquiry shows everyone how it goes when you spend years shoving money into your mates coffers and having parties instead. If those diverted funds, and the huge amounts of other public money, had been spent for the benefit of the public instead of facilitating another yacht or two for the over-entitled and over-privileged then the circumstances leading to the current disorder are unlikely to have arisen. What do you think Cassandra?

Shame you had to add the last line. Can you post without the insults and attack, if reading posts makes you angry then that’s on you.

I think we’re going to struggle due increased movement and it was easy to see from a while back. Politicians are going to have higher unrest and just ignoring wont help.

mightymam · 04/08/2024 09:36

Shit like this is why non-white people have to take consider racism as well as location, good schools, value for money, etc. when moving somewhere. It's massively tiring.

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 09:33

Oh. Planning for possible future outcomes, good practice. Covid enquiry shows everyone how it goes when you spend years shoving money into your mates coffers and having parties instead. If those diverted funds, and the huge amounts of other public money, had been spent for the benefit of the public instead of facilitating another yacht or two for the over-entitled and over-privileged then the circumstances leading to the current disorder are unlikely to have arisen. What do you think Cassandra?

Strawbag6364 · 04/08/2024 09:30

swimsong · 04/08/2024 09:29

Your last sentence doesn't make sense.

If the hard left are anywhere right now they're helping to stop the violence of extremist Farage-led racists attacking minorities, and then joining in the city clean ups - as we've seen in Bristol and Liverpool.

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Applogies - meant hard right.

swimsong · 04/08/2024 09:29

Strawbag6364 · 04/08/2024 08:41

😂😂 😂
Um wasn’t it the Tories who kept banging on about the need to Stop the Boats for 14 years and Brexit being the answer to all our woes.

They failed spectacularly on both. Should the Tories have “ faced some difficulty”?

With the latter Remainers were told to just get over it even though the entire country was lied to and Brexit has had a massive detrimental impact on the UK. Nobody is even allowed to mention the B word.

It’s just laughable how the hard left justify their childish thuggish behaviour.

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Your last sentence doesn't make sense.

If the hard left are anywhere right now they're helping to stop the violence of extremist Farage-led racists attacking minorities, and then joining in the city clean ups - as we've seen in Bristol and Liverpool.

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 09:21

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 09:16

Claiming ownership of rational thought is possibly not the best road for any one person to pursue just now.

It’s harder to think clearly when disorder is around you so I would have thought about outcomes earlier, hence my posts at the time

My view was we’ll see social and political strain and it’s hard to deal with during unrest

swimsong · 04/08/2024 09:19

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 08:03

In a month I’d hope a new gov would not be foolish enough to put in place trafficking policies that cause this

I was incredulous people thought it a good idea pre GE as disorder was likely

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What "trafficking policies"?

Here's a summary of Labour's immigration policy so far:

https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights/labours-immigration-law-policy-dashboard

Which specific policy do you think is making the nutters attack minorities, the police and loot vaping shops?

Labour’s immigration law policy dashboard

Our dashboard explains the key policies announced by Labour to-date on legal migration and focuses on the policies most likely to be of interest to employers.

https://www.lewissilkin.com/en/insights/labours-immigration-law-policy-dashboard

Strawbag6364 · 04/08/2024 09:17

EasternStandard · 04/08/2024 09:11

These threads are predictable tbf with the insults over rationality, this disorder is going to increase and it was easy to see from ages ago

I guess we’ll need some more time before posters can read without attacking and see where we are in a year or so

Why is it? Where was the disorder re the Tory destruction of the NHS, Brexit, the contracts for friends, partygate, Rwanda……

BIossomtoes · 04/08/2024 09:17

it was easy to see from ages ago

When did you foresee riots then?

newnamethanks · 04/08/2024 09:16

Claiming ownership of rational thought is possibly not the best road for any one person to pursue just now.