To be embarrassed to be from Hull right now?

There is a misconception, deliberate or not I’m not sure, that people with concerns about immigration want ‘foreigners’ kicking out. That’s not the case. We want a pause on other migrants coming in whilst we sort out this shit show. That pause could last years/decades, but it’s like we just don’t have the infrastructure in place to accommodate any of us already in the UK. It’s not just down to the previous governments. Houses need building, the NHS needs a huge overhaul - it’s no longer fit for purpose for the numbers it needs to service. It’s like we’re on a sinking ship, and instead of trying to stabilise the ship and get us floating again, we’re getting more people thrown on the ship.

two muslim ladies were assaulted and had their hijabs ripped from them this week locally to me and for what? for daring to be brown and not christian? makes me sick that weve got gangs of marauding pissed up men banging on about save our country and protect our women and kids when its THEM that we need protecting from! its them that beat their partners when england lose the football!

@Demonhunter I imagine it was very noisy round your way last night. I'm just outside of the city centre but could hear the police helicopter till gone 1 this morning.

come up with a better plan than Rwanda

Do you mean Labour’s plan to smash the gangs?

Do you judge ALL the inhabitants of an area because of an undesirable element?

So, what did you hope for? The lies on the side of a bus?

I feel sad and angered that although they are saying about illegal immigrants, they are indiscriminate about who they are targeting.

I've been talking with an old friend from uni today, she's a beautiful, gentle soul and Muslim. Luckily she isn't in the area now but she is still feeling fearful about what's happening. Her husband and her have very good jobs in which they do help people, do lots of community work, have lived here for many years now, yet because they're Muslim, they would be targeted by these people.

My brother was advised to wear plain clothes on his way to work today, not his police uniform like normal for his safety. Scary when they are the people we expect help from when bad things happen. God forbid we need the police this week as they will be too busy fending off those brain dead ‘protestors’

Well I'm disgusted about all the illegal immigrants being allowed to just smash buildings and set police cars on fire and throw bricks at the police and... wait, what, who's doing that? Oh - I'm confused now. Can't we throw those people out? They're the ones making a mess.

Possibly something to do with the Tories having their hands wedged in the till, and going 'oh look, there's a badger, I mean an immigrant'.

Do tell me about the legal routes open to them.

I’m in California.
I saw that “dog bitten Hartlepool thug” jackass taunt the police and their dog and I heard his big sissy yelp when the dog grabbed a mouthful of his pants.
He was up there yelling right in their faces.
I’m finding it quite humorous to hear he sobbed through his court appearance.
It’s always the tough ones. lol

@ilovesooty I generally find that people that spout shit like that don't actually have any understanding of how the process works, who is here legally/illegally, actual immigration statistics etc

It's just dog whistle media being parroted.

Genuine question but what do you want any UK government to do? The world is more global now than it has ever been so I guess we either embrace it and accept that means accepting a level of migration that's necessary (whilst hoping Labour sort out the shit show left by the last lot and come up with a better plan than Rwanda).

Alternatively we can cut ourself off and kick all of the 'foreigners' out. Problem with that is we screw up our economy; we don't have enough working age adults to fund vital services or pay enough taxes, we can't even grow/manufacture all the food we need. Any decent trade deal signed will be contingent on allowing migration.

What is this "cause"? What, specifically — in terms of laws or policies that the government could adopt — do you want to happen?

They could come here by legal routes rather than illegally. They used to have to make applications but now they just take advantage of us just letting them in.

And we all know that in the seemingly rare event a claim fails, a lot of them just 'disappear' and carry on living here as they are.

But it's not just 'asylum seekers'- it's all of the different forms of immigration. Supposedly there were going to be limits on who was able to come, but that seems to have gone out the window.

But anyway. I just empathise with people that feel that way, seeing their cities stop feeling like home etc. I try not to feel that way myself.

For one thing, there's no point.

@and the cost to clear up these riots will help that will it

"Take Britain back" where?

British Christian men I guess?

You are joking right? You seriously think the UK is a better place to live than it was 16 years ago? Our infrastructure is on its knees. Most public services are far far worse than they’ve ever been.

I'm from Sunderland and everyone not at last nights riots is seething about what happened. We've been saying the same, any rational message anyone hoped to portray is long gone and everyone just thinks they're arseholes. The destruction to shop doors and windows, the Citizens Advice Bureau being fire bombed, attacking taxis, stopping and hijacking buses while terrified people tried to huddle and hide, cars overturned and set on fire... just diabolical. I live not far from the main police station and the fire station and the sirens were none stop all night. The helicopters out all night, the lot. Just surreal.

We have national outbreaks of riots sometimes. It's happened a few times. Wrong'uns gunna wrong. I hope they face action because usually the ones actually being violent probably either have prior convictions for some other crimes, or will go on to have them.

You do realise that asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants until they fail to leave if their applications are refused after they've been processed?

@GoodieMcTwoshoes well in my 16 years here I have only seen improvements. You have a fair voting system and decent but not perfect social security systems. It's not a perfect country but where is. What is it you want that's gone!

All riots are wrong
Protest if you want but rioting and looting is always wrong