To be embarrassed to be from Hull right now?

They are not illegal refugees. There is no such thing.

I really can't be arsed.

@Chester23 try not to despair 💐

Great. A race to the bottom UK V USA. Look how many countries take more.

Would these polish women and children be giving there life savings to people smugglers and risking their lives in dingy’s to get here ?

i dont think anyone has any problems with legal war refugees, its the illegal ones that cross into the country every day that governments do nothing to combat.

There will be a lot worse to come unless the country gets serious about controlling the amount that continue to come in.

There are a lot of refugees here that are not from countries at war ……….

In Hull and also feel awful about it all.
There's a brilliant music festival in at the moment- and that should be the focus of the weekend- not these thugs.
Pathetic.

Interesting that you picked up on that rather than comparing our intake to other countries in Europe and nearer home, some of which are these safe countries you probably think they should settle in, regardless of the 1951 Convention. The USA is only a signatory to the protocol, not to the convention.

I've visited Hull and it was lovely and so were the people I met. A few people do not mean all the same.

I live in the North East and there was a similar scene in Sunderland last night. An absolute disgrace. I'm certainly not embarrassed to be from this region but am ashamed of the behaviour of some others a tiny minority who live here. ☹️.

My son is a firefighter and was on duty last night. I was very worried about him. Everyone we know is appalled.

No, you shouldn't be embarrassed unless you've been joining in - which I assume you haven't. There are idiots everywhere, lots of them were in power and allowed this country to start falling apart.

That would be very difficult.

Scenario: we have reached the yearly cap you want to introduce. Putin invades Poland. Polish women and children flee. Do we say, sorry rest of Europe we won't be helping out?

What’s it got to do with you? If someone in my town does something stupid, it’s nothing to do with me. It’s just unfortunate for me that I live near them.

Humans place themselves in groups in order to form their identity (see Tajfel’s social identity theory) and then they defend their group and denigrate other groups in order to maintain their sense of self worth. (It’s pretty obvious really, but a few psychologists researched this sort of thing after world war 2.)

This is because most neurotypical humans are stupid.

According to that chart the uk only took in 25,000 less refugees than America !!!!! Not much difference in the size of the countries is there ?

I don't know the numbers, but I would look at the number per 1000 head of population that is taken by other countries and then make sure the UK sits somewhere around or slightly above the average.

We don’t, you moron.

I note though that you don't actually answer any of my questions. How many legal routes and how many refugees\asylum seekers?

Also, how would you decide, if you do want a limit, which ones to let in and which to keep out when, under the UN convention, they will all probably have a good case to be regarded as genuine?

I am though, like you, in favour of investing some money to try and persuade people from leaving by improving conditions there and I would also like us to stop interfering in other countries affairs. The former colonies have by no means been asset stripped by us though - otherwise China would not be so desperately building influence and power in Africa. I feel no more guilt for what happened during the British Empire than I imagine the average Italian feels for the Roman Empire.

@2dogsandabudgie good thing we aren't then. We are very far down the list of countries in terms of the volumes of asylum seekers and refugees we take.

I agree we should not take everyone who wants to be here regardless of reason, but we have a moral duty to run a humane and decent immigration and asylum system.

My family is descended on both sides from peoples who found sancturary in the UK from religious and ethnic persecution.

There for the grace of god and all that.

Of course not but there needs to be a cap on numbers allowed in.

most of them won’t be local

@TattiePants it's just ridiculous isn't it. My son and his friends were planning on going to the game shack and cinema for one of their birthdays today, glad we said no!

Hoping it doesn't start again later as businesses seem to be bracing themselves for another kick off.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/263423/major-refugee-hosting-countries-worldwide/

The previous government only seemed to place migrants in areas with a Labour MP.

SmokeBlackCat
What kind of person takes babies and young children (or even older children) to a riot?

Intellectually challenged.

It goes back further than that. This has been building for over 20 years.

Do you think the UK is the only country taking in asylum seekers?

That may well be true, but there are a lot of people who aren't on the streets, and are also not thick or drunk, who have a great amount of sympathy with some of the things they are saying. You only have to look at the comments on some of the national newspaper websites to see that.

Dismissing them all is not going to make them go away.