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C4tintherug · 2024-08-03T11:00:29+00:00

Why has Michael Jackson not been cancelled? I don’t understand why a musical has been made out of his music, and why his music is played at school discos and is still everywhere. After I watched the documentary where the men described how he raped them, I won’t listen to his music at all, in fact, I feel a sense of disgust when it is played publicly. I don’t understand why we seem to have cancelled everyone else except him. Is it because he died before he was officially found guilty?

ineedtogwtoutbeforeitatoohot · 03/08/2024 14:47

Onehotday · 03/08/2024 12:19

Because he's innocent.

Yeah ok

Tourmalines · 03/08/2024 14:45

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:28

Your choice. I don't believe it. I think he was stupid to have made young teen boys his friends, and have them stop over, but he was not convicted of any wrongdoing. People who say 'just because he wasn't found guilty doesn't mean he was innocent' say this, because they're so desperate for someone to be guilty, even though there isn't a shred of proof of their guilt. If there HAD have been, MJ would have been found guilty and convicted!

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Why would I be desperate to have someone found guilty ??? Get real . There was a lot of evidence to say he was guilty , what planet are you living on. Lots of the jury thought he was guilty but it has be to unanimous . That rotten pedo was as guilty as hell . The law accuses wrong and the law lets wrong ones go . It’s not black and white . Stop living in a fairytale world

Rosscameasdoody · 03/08/2024 14:45

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 12:25

Ah so only if they’re talented they don’t get cancelled. Gary Glitter should have written better songs

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Gary Glitter was convicted of child sex offences. Michael Jackson was found not guilty in a court of law. That’s the difference - talent is nothing to do with it.

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 14:44

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:41

@cupcaske123 · Today 14:26

Irrelevant to what? You are of the understanding that a 14 year old is a child, right?

What is your opinion then, on René Angélil - who first met Celine Dion (and became her manager, and sold his house to fund her starting her career) when she was 12! He started dating her a few years after meeting her. Here they are when they first started dating. She was in her teens - he was in his mid 40s.

Anything to say about René? Or is it only Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson who deserve vitriol, because most people love Celine, and thought her and René's romance was 'precious.'

What are you on about? I find any grooming of a child abhorrent. I don't find any child abuse acceptable.

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 14:43

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He was dating her after they met. How could a 24 year old find a child sexually attractive?

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:41

@cupcaske123 · Today 14:26

Irrelevant to what? You are of the understanding that a 14 year old is a child, right?

What is your opinion then, on René Angélil - who first met Celine Dion (and became her manager, and sold his house to fund her starting her career) when she was 12! He started dating her a few years after meeting her. Here they are when they first started dating. She was in her teens - he was in his mid 40s.

Anything to say about René? Or is it only Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson who deserve vitriol, because most people love Celine, and thought her and René's romance was 'precious.'

YankSplaining · 03/08/2024 14:39

Sitdownrosa · 03/08/2024 13:28

I don't get it either. Some people are just thick though, and think that their enjoyment of some music is more important than that person abusing children.

Even one of Michael Jackson’s accusers said he wasn’t offended by people still listening to Michael Jackson.

The guy’s dead, and not listening to his music doesn’t un-molest anyone. Also, while I’m about 95% sure he was a pedophile, the fact does remain that a jury found that the crimes he was formally charged with weren’t proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

NoImNotCurvyImFat · 03/08/2024 14:38

Yes that’s true he wasn’t found innocent he was found not guilty

which is so often the case when you have the best legal team money can buy behind you

ll09sm · 03/08/2024 14:32

Michael Jackson went trial and was acquitted of every charge.

Is this news to you OP?

OurChristmasMiracle · 03/08/2024 14:32

He is not the only celebrity to have abused children though or raped/sexually assaulted someone or even been domestically abusive- some have even admitted it- take for example Eminem and Chris brown. Both have admitted to it but people still
listen to the music

also would you listen to a song by them but sang by someone else?

Twistybranch · 03/08/2024 14:31

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 14:16

Shame really because Anothrr Rock n Roll Christmas was a great song

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I know, all he needed was couple more really good hits and he would have been fine

ChishiyaBat · 03/08/2024 14:30

Oh look another thread with a bunch more paedophile apologists! Every time I hear his songs in public it makes me wince!
He slept with little boys, paraded them about in public then dumped them when they got too old for him! He also had a lot of child images in his house!

Icepearl · 03/08/2024 14:28

Thunder8090 · 03/08/2024 13:43

and how many times are there wrongful convictions both innocent AND guilty.

The answer is it happens all the time. The legal system certainly isn't fool proof.

Just because he was found innocent doesn't mean jack shit. If you're wealthy and let's face it, Jackson was a cash cow for a great many people, it's not surprising he was found innocent.

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Many rich people are found guilty.

No the court system isn't perfect.

You can have a system which errs on the side of finding people guilty or that errs on the side of finding people innocent.

Ours, and theirs errs on the side of finding people innocent, which means a guilty person is more likely to be found innocent, than an innocent person is to be found guilty.

That gives all of us certain securities and confidence in out own safety.

But you have to stand by the court decisions. (the system for which you personally are benefitting from)

MJ was found innocent. Case closed.

Backscuttle · 03/08/2024 14:28

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HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:28

Tourmalines · 03/08/2024 14:22

For those saying he was found innocent . No he wasn’t . He was found not guilty . They are two completely different terms with different meanings . And I believe he was a child abuser .

Your choice. I don't believe it. I think he was stupid to have made young teen boys his friends, and have them stop over, but he was not convicted of any wrongdoing. People who say 'just because he wasn't found guilty doesn't mean he was innocent' say this, because they're so desperate for someone to be guilty, even though there isn't a shred of proof of their guilt. If there HAD have been, MJ would have been found guilty and convicted!

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:27

lalafox · 03/08/2024 14:25

Or the fact that he was never found guilty

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This. ^

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:27

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:20

MJ has never been convicted of anything.

HTH.

I will listen to his amazing music until the day I day. 😎

'Day I die,' not 'day I die' obvs!

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 14:26

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Irrelevant to what? You are of the understanding that a 14 year old is a child, right?

lalafox · 03/08/2024 14:25

Magnastorm · 03/08/2024 13:04

Because mj fans are incredibly obsessive about him and his mediocre music.

Or the fact that he was never found guilty

Rummly · 03/08/2024 14:24

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Beaten into second place by The Court of King Caractacus.

Lordy, the ‘70s had some shit music.

Backscuttle · 03/08/2024 14:24

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Tourmalines · 03/08/2024 14:22

For those saying he was found innocent . No he wasn’t . He was found not guilty . They are two completely different terms with different meanings . And I believe he was a child abuser .

cupcaske123 · 03/08/2024 14:21

NoImNotCurvyImFat · 03/08/2024 14:17

Only Elvis can match how much MJ was idolised and I would say MJ more so as his appeal is worldwide and all generations can appreciate his talent and enjoy (or enjoyed/appreciated) his performances

he was found innocent but I do believe personally he was guilty

His unmatched talent for performance and creating music can’t just be wiped out because of the huge impact he had and the influence he still has. Seeing videos of him as a small child you knew that he was incrediably special that can’t be destroyed by reputation

i think for many they just do not want to accept

I was surprised a few years ago very soon after a very damming documentary that was highly publicised being in the famous Groucho Club (a friends invite) and Working Day and Night was played and their was an air of excitement a few songs along and Billie Jean was played and the place went wild. His music still does this, many of us (including myself) can remember his performances and block out the awful things he did

Elvis was 24 when he met the 14 year old Priscilla, but no one cares.

jen337 · 03/08/2024 14:20

Mirabai · 03/08/2024 13:45

That poster is absolutely correct, his music is mediocre at best.

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Absolutely, that must be why he’s widely recognised as one of the greatest artists of all time.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 03/08/2024 14:20

MJ has never been convicted of anything.

HTH.

I will listen to his amazing music until the day I day. 😎