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To think this is overkill (Huw Edwards)

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BeachParty · 03/08/2024 03:08

Don't get me wrong, what he did was heinous.
I don't care how or why you got pics on your phone. 🤢😡. 😥

https://deadline.com/2024/08/doctor-who-episode-huw-edwards-removed-bbc-iplayer-1236029881/

Deleting all reference from someone from fictional shows though seems a bit 😕
It's a character, it's not the real life person.
If we started deleting everyone with problematic/disgusting views, would we be left with any art at all?!

'Doctor Who' episode 'Fear Her' removed from iPlayer after featuring Huw Edwards

‘Doctor Who’ Episode Featuring Disgraced Presenter Huw Edwards Removed From BBC iPlayer To Be Redubbed

The BBC has removed from iPlayer a David Tennant episode of 'Doctor Who' that features Huw Edwards, the disgraced news anchor.

https://deadline.com/2024/08/doctor-who-episode-huw-edwards-removed-bbc-iplayer-1236029881

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TheSecretIsland · 03/08/2024 09:39

BigFatLiar · 03/08/2024 09:31

Depends on the police.

Don't rely on deleting the image and telling the police. If they think they can convict they will.

I know of someone prosecuted for having indecent images on a pc. The pc was second hand and had been scrubbed before resale however using file recovery software the police were able to retrieve remains of files from before he bought the machine. The files weren't visible without the specialist tools. They acknowledged the files were old files, fragmented and not accessible without specialist tools but still prosecuted.

Police will prosecute if they think they can and juries will convict on flimsy evidence.

Well there is more to that story

Police don't forensically check random home computers. There was a reason they looked at that person's hard drive.

Andthereitis · 03/08/2024 09:39

Maybe it's a two part process of removing and then checking there's been no funny stuff on set or on film.

ChishiyaBat · 03/08/2024 09:36

I say it every thread that has nonces discussed, but the amount of paedophile apologjsts on this site never fail to shock me!
They are only editing his voice out of the episode not scrubbing him from history they are also removing a plaque celebrating him off Cardiff castle.

TheSecretIsland · 03/08/2024 09:36

Ponkpinkpink15 · 03/08/2024 07:53

@Edenspirits73

he pleaded guilty to receiving images (he'd asked to NOT be sent). Not to asking illegal images to be sent.

Out of interest if you were sent one picture of a boy child between 7-9 being penetrated (Cat A moving video) what would you do?

Report to the police and
Block sender
Or
Allow 39 other messages to be sent over a couple of months and
Talk about the images in the chat?

SerafinasGoose · 03/08/2024 09:34

summerdazey · 03/08/2024 06:39

If we started deleting everyone with problematic/disgusting views, would we be left with any art at all?!

Yes.

In response to the first poster. This isn't about 'problematic' or disgusting views. People can think what they like; it's the acting on it that's the issue.

He pleaded guilty. He is a convicted paedophile.

These apologists will be saying it's a 'witch hunt' next, despite the guilty plea. Just as those of a similar mindset said Andrew Windsor was never convicted therefore never did anything wrong (despite seriously incriminating himself on national TV and being an unelected diplomat whose bezzie was a convicted paedophile).

@MNHQ as per some of the threads on 'site stuff', IMO this site needs some serious disinfecting, particularly of the content of the past week.

Lilysgoneshopping · 03/08/2024 09:33

fiddleleaffig · 03/08/2024 09:04

I don't believe he is a paedophile.
A paedophile is defined as a noun for someone who is sexual attracted to children.
He explicitly stated he did not want any photos of anyone underage. He asked not to be sent any. He was sent one anyway, which immediately downloaded onto his phone, but he said it was wrong and he does not want that.
Yes he should have blocked all contact, yes he should have reported to the police. He didn't and he is now paying a very severe price for that. However, there is nothing to suggest he has any sexual feelings towards children and therefore nothing that defines him as a paedophile.

It wasn't just one picture though was it. Why didn't he block the guy who sent the pics.
Well that's pretty clear. He wanted more of the same.
He could easily have accessed legal adult pornography but that's not what he wanted
What's with mumsnet posters suddenly trying to excuse someone who pleaded guilty to viewing child abuse?
Maybe he pleaded guilty to avoid any deeper digging into his very unsavoury behaviour

TheUnknownsMum · 03/08/2024 09:32

KaToby · 03/08/2024 06:00

He is literally the definition of a paedophile.

Wait, I thought he had just been an idiot in asking for legal pictures from a guy who (without prompting) sent illegal ones in the same batch. Not trying to minimize it but does that genuinely equal the definition of one?

BigFatLiar · 03/08/2024 09:31

cathyandclaire · 03/08/2024 08:28

@BigFatLiar @Ponkpinkpink15
It is a crime to receive images- but there is a potential defence if you receive unsolicited images and delete them quickly.

Huw Edwards pleaded guilty and did not attempt to use this defence, why was that? He also didn't block Alex Williams and continued to chat to a man that he knew possessed and supplied images of CSA. This is not an innocent victim receiv

Depends on the police.

Don't rely on deleting the image and telling the police. If they think they can convict they will.

I know of someone prosecuted for having indecent images on a pc. The pc was second hand and had been scrubbed before resale however using file recovery software the police were able to retrieve remains of files from before he bought the machine. The files weren't visible without the specialist tools. They acknowledged the files were old files, fragmented and not accessible without specialist tools but still prosecuted.

Police will prosecute if they think they can and juries will convict on flimsy evidence.

Iwasafool · 03/08/2024 09:28

oakleaffy · 03/08/2024 08:04

Why are you defending a paedophile?

People make up cover stories all the time to help protect themselves if they were to be caught down the line.

''Don't send me any underage children'' could even be a code for ''this is what I want''

It's meaningless as a defence.
If he was appalled by what he'd been sent , he should have reported it.

He was sent the images by a known paedophile.

How did the known criminal get Edward's private email?

It is always difficult to be sure what people mean particularly if they use a code. I suppose one indicator would be did the other person continue to send illegal images of children, if he did yes it might have been a code, if he stopped then it probably meant don't send illegal images. I don't know if there is any evidence of which of the two happened.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 09:26

Newbutoldfather · 03/08/2024 09:22

I will reserve judgment until the sentencing.

People are quick to say that they would go straight to the police. He was married and not ‘out’ at the time. Going to trial as a witness and saying ‘yes I befriended a dodgy guy and wanted lots of young legal gay porn, but nothing illegal’ wouldn’t have been a good look to his wife and children. He maybe just panicked.

Do we know he kept the pictures or that they were still ‘available’? Maybe he did instantly delete them.

Maybe he is a paedophile but we don’t know that yet. All we know is that he received images over WhatsApp that he ‘kept’, which might have been an automatic save to his album. That is what we know and that is what he pleaded guilty to. Beyond that no one on this thread knows any more.

He has admitted it - what more evidence do you need exactly? Do you have 40 images of kids being raped on your phone? And decide to 'keep' them?

Most people are disgusted and sickened, the fact you are not, says a lot to be honest about you.

Veryoldandtired · 03/08/2024 09:26

Have you googled what cat A images are?!? They include penetrative sx, torture and rpe. I’m outraged that BBC boss thanked him for his service tbh.

TeaAndStrumpets · 03/08/2024 09:26

BBC is proud to display Eric Gill's sculptures. Huw Edwards not being an artist probably counts against him 🤔

Grubby little man, happy not to be reminded of him, but why spend time and money NOW when there was unease about him before. Same with many TV so-called personalities, lots of hand-wringing once they get found out.

Viviennemary · 03/08/2024 09:25

It's really bad. And the BBC wheeling out folk to run him down makes me sick. Bunch of hypocrites. And it was HE who announced the Queen had died. Will they censor that as well. Good point.

swimlyn · 03/08/2024 09:24

Sethera · 03/08/2024 08:12

It makes no difference. Media output forms part of our history, whether fictional or factual.

Let’s face it. We’ve accepted Enid Blyton being censored.

FrancisSeaton · 03/08/2024 09:23

Oh ffs some people
There are loads of places where you can access legal naughty pictures it's 2024. Why would any adult let alone a professional male with intelligence engage in a chat with someone providing dodgy photos of kids? Hark at some of you 🤦‍♀️

MrsBreeze · 03/08/2024 09:23

There’s some very naive people on this thread.

So just because he said ‘don’t send me anything illegal’ it’s all ok, he can’t possibly be a paedophile?

Perhaps he didn’t want to get caught out, didn’t he pay a 17 year old boy to send him nude pictures? He’s obviously attracted to younger kids and a 17 year old is legally what he thinks he can get away with.

He’s perverted.

He was still in contact with that other pos for a year - he can’t have been that outraged or upset by the images. He knew what he was doing. This wasn’t just one image, there were lots. Stop making excuses for him and see him for what he is.

Newbutoldfather · 03/08/2024 09:22

I will reserve judgment until the sentencing.

People are quick to say that they would go straight to the police. He was married and not ‘out’ at the time. Going to trial as a witness and saying ‘yes I befriended a dodgy guy and wanted lots of young legal gay porn, but nothing illegal’ wouldn’t have been a good look to his wife and children. He maybe just panicked.

Do we know he kept the pictures or that they were still ‘available’? Maybe he did instantly delete them.

Maybe he is a paedophile but we don’t know that yet. All we know is that he received images over WhatsApp that he ‘kept’, which might have been an automatic save to his album. That is what we know and that is what he pleaded guilty to. Beyond that no one on this thread knows any more.

GTTIA1107 · 03/08/2024 09:22

It can be illegal today and legal tmrw due to a birthday but the young persons body doesn't change at midnight.
He enjoyed looking at pictures of younger people, much much younger than himself and he kept them, he didn't delete them nor report them.

He's a peodophile and he should be erased so he can't make money and he should go to jail.
If it were your child in those photos you'd not think the reaction was OTT

Asherrain · 03/08/2024 09:21

greengreyblue · 03/08/2024 09:14

He has been charged with ‘making indecent images of children’ !!!!!!
He spent tens of thousands of pounds on sexually explicit images and videos from a teenage boy.
He arranged to meet the boy.
Open your eyes!!

Do you know for sure that he spent money on videos from an underage boy? The police investigated that and no charges were brought. It's illegal to receive explicit content from a person under the age of 18. So if he received videos of a teenage boy under the age of 18 and the police were alerted (which we know they were) he would have been arrested and charged, but they said no criminal offence had taken place.
The indecent images are another issue but don't make up other offences that aren't real.

dottiedodah · 03/08/2024 09:20

Lisa Nandy apparently is having Crisis talks with the beeb, about Huw Edwards pocketing 479,000 in payments since he was suspended WTF! The BBC seem to think they can do whatever they want. Hopefully Lisa will give them a thorough grilling!

ashitghost · 03/08/2024 09:18

fiddleleaffig · 03/08/2024 09:04

I don't believe he is a paedophile.
A paedophile is defined as a noun for someone who is sexual attracted to children.
He explicitly stated he did not want any photos of anyone underage. He asked not to be sent any. He was sent one anyway, which immediately downloaded onto his phone, but he said it was wrong and he does not want that.
Yes he should have blocked all contact, yes he should have reported to the police. He didn't and he is now paying a very severe price for that. However, there is nothing to suggest he has any sexual feelings towards children and therefore nothing that defines him as a paedophile.

Are you for real? Of course he was asking them not to be sent to him. It’s a nonce practice, which they think will exonerate them if anything should come to light.

He said “no don’t send me those pictures” to get that in writing and yet then kept all those 40 images of the very worst sexual abuse of children as young as nine. He kept them for months and never went to the police.

Anyone who thinks he isn’t attracted to children is so naive it’s worrying. These cunts are cunning.

Livelovebehappy · 03/08/2024 09:18

fiddleleaffig · 03/08/2024 09:04

I don't believe he is a paedophile.
A paedophile is defined as a noun for someone who is sexual attracted to children.
He explicitly stated he did not want any photos of anyone underage. He asked not to be sent any. He was sent one anyway, which immediately downloaded onto his phone, but he said it was wrong and he does not want that.
Yes he should have blocked all contact, yes he should have reported to the police. He didn't and he is now paying a very severe price for that. However, there is nothing to suggest he has any sexual feelings towards children and therefore nothing that defines him as a paedophile.

There wasn’t just one picture. There were numerous ones. He clearly kept them, or the police wouldn’t have found them. Any normal person would have immediately deleted the pictures (although any ‘normal’ person wouldn’t have engaged with having any type of pornographic material sent to them in the first place), and reported them to the police. He chose to keep them. Why would that be, unless he had an interest in them?

greengreyblue · 03/08/2024 09:17

@Ponkpinkpink15 he was in contact with a child for years sending money in exchange for photos and videos.

Hummingbird75 · 03/08/2024 09:17

There are a lot of windups/weirdos on this thread.....of course he needs to be removed, he is now convicted.

Of course he is going to prison where the consequences of his actions await him.

Of course he is a paedophile.
He is going to rot in prison, thank god.

greengreyblue · 03/08/2024 09:16

This has the same stink that paedo priests have. Some people just will not accept that someone held in high regard can be duplicitous.