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to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

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Misthios · 02/08/2024 22:29

They are not protestors. They are not protesting. They are common or garden thugs and criminals who are causing criminal damage, setting police offices on fire and attacking police officers.

Total scumbags.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

Building on fire

Protesters in Sunderland set car on fire and clash with police

Northumbria Police says its officers have been "subjected to serious violence".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

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TattiePants · 03/08/2024 20:01

AlviarinAesSedai · 03/08/2024 19:52

I feel sorry for the business owners. The money they lost last night and the money tonight.
Sheepfolds Stables opening weekend, hopefully as they are other side of river not too affected.

Absolutely. On a lovely night like tonight the businesses around High St West and Keel Square should have been packed. Sheepfolds seems to have been relatively unaffected last night but I know people from my side of the river have cancelled going there this weekend.

AlviarinAesSedai · 03/08/2024 19:52

I feel sorry for the business owners. The money they lost last night and the money tonight.
Sheepfolds Stables opening weekend, hopefully as they are other side of river not too affected.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 03/08/2024 19:49

And the mainstream media has just handed out the foundations of a whole new conspiracy theory about the perpetrator of the original crime. Not going to link because I'm too busy facepalming that they couldn't have just quietly scrubbed the information but it's out there now and not hard to find.

I despair, I honestly do.

TattiePants · 03/08/2024 19:41

It does seem to be mainly teenagers creating problems tonight. A branch of Hays Travel has had its windows smashed. They clearly know bugger all about local businesses because Hays are a brilliant employer and they do a huge amount for the city.

A Muslim man I know that must spend every spare hour he has doing work to make the city better has been interviewed by the BBC outside his mosque. Whilst telling them how much he loves the city, a van went past and shouted racist abuse at him. You just couldn't make it up.

Hatfullofwillow · 03/08/2024 19:17

Hatfullofwillow · 03/08/2024 00:55

I'll be joining the counter protest in Nottingham. They need to get the message they're not welcome & they're outnumbered.

I'd estimate the counter protesters outnumbered the racists 10-1, cans & bottles lobbed and a few scuffles mostly between the racists & police but their numbers seriously dwindled.

I wouldn't go out later in town though, bound to be some pissed up stragglers causing trouble.

SinnerBoy · 03/08/2024 18:54

MichaelAndEagle · Today 18:10

Is it kicking off in Sunderland again? I've seen the Sunderland Empire has cancelled the show that was on tonight at the last minute.

Oh no! My mate Becky is door security at the Empire. I saw some of the footage yesterday and they were outside.

PandoraSox · 03/08/2024 18:54

There are folk on Twitter doing sterling work identifying the idiots.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/08/2024 18:42

Littletreefrog
Lots of posts of them on Facebook where they are easily identifiable so hopefully the police will catch up with them

So not just violent but thick as mince too. How stupid must you be to post your nefarious activities on SM?

Rummly · 03/08/2024 18:39

Littletreefrog · 03/08/2024 18:37

Its an Abba show that has been cancelled. 30 minutes after they announced it was still going ahead. Its just teenage yobs who think smashing windows and frightening people makes them look like hard men. Lots of posts of them on Facebook where they are easily identifiable so hopefully the police will catch up with them.

Thank you.

So an ABBA tribute show has been cancelled? At least some small good has come out of this ugly business.

Littletreefrog · 03/08/2024 18:37

Its an Abba show that has been cancelled. 30 minutes after they announced it was still going ahead. Its just teenage yobs who think smashing windows and frightening people makes them look like hard men. Lots of posts of them on Facebook where they are easily identifiable so hopefully the police will catch up with them.

Rummly · 03/08/2024 18:22

MichaelAndEagle · 03/08/2024 18:10

Is it kicking off in Sunderland again? I've seen the Sunderland Empire has cancelled the show that was on tonight at the last minute.
I really hope not, how can the police be expected to handle this night after night?

What show has been cancelled?

EsmeGythaMagrat · 03/08/2024 18:17

MichaelAndEagle · 03/08/2024 18:10

Is it kicking off in Sunderland again? I've seen the Sunderland Empire has cancelled the show that was on tonight at the last minute.
I really hope not, how can the police be expected to handle this night after night?

From what I’ve read, it’s a large group of teenagers rather than the large turnout from last night.
most bad enough though and I don’t blame the Empire for being cautious.

MichaelAndEagle · 03/08/2024 18:10

Is it kicking off in Sunderland again? I've seen the Sunderland Empire has cancelled the show that was on tonight at the last minute.
I really hope not, how can the police be expected to handle this night after night?

EsmeGythaMagrat · 03/08/2024 18:07

SallyWD · 03/08/2024 15:13

Last night I posted that I was so upset and angry and I wanted to do something. Today I went to Leeds City centre and stood with the anti-racism protestors against the racist thugs. We were literally facing them off and it felt incredibly empowering.
Yesterday I felt hopeless but today I saw the anti-racism crowd outnumbered the racists by about 4:1. It gave me so, so much hope.
I was surprised and disappointed to see the racist crowd comprised of about 20% women.
In the end we drove away the racists, the police following their every move. It felt like a small victory. Of course, I realise they'll carry on all day becoming increasingly violent, probably set fire to a mosque or something so there's not really much to celebrate. But for a couple of hours today we overpowered them by sheer numbers and volume and it felt good. The hate on their faces was horrible to see.

Well done Sally, the response from the residents of Sunderland today and actions from people like yourself, have really warmed my heart.

Also, if anyone is feeling down and has access to Twitter, go to the LBC page and listen to the call from Darren, we need more Darrens around.

CassieMaddox · 03/08/2024 17:54

SallyWD · 03/08/2024 15:13

Last night I posted that I was so upset and angry and I wanted to do something. Today I went to Leeds City centre and stood with the anti-racism protestors against the racist thugs. We were literally facing them off and it felt incredibly empowering.
Yesterday I felt hopeless but today I saw the anti-racism crowd outnumbered the racists by about 4:1. It gave me so, so much hope.
I was surprised and disappointed to see the racist crowd comprised of about 20% women.
In the end we drove away the racists, the police following their every move. It felt like a small victory. Of course, I realise they'll carry on all day becoming increasingly violent, probably set fire to a mosque or something so there's not really much to celebrate. But for a couple of hours today we overpowered them by sheer numbers and volume and it felt good. The hate on their faces was horrible to see.

Well done @sallyWD 👏

Uricon2 · 03/08/2024 15:43

@SallyWD Flowers

absquatulize · 03/08/2024 15:38

SallyWD · 03/08/2024 15:13

Last night I posted that I was so upset and angry and I wanted to do something. Today I went to Leeds City centre and stood with the anti-racism protestors against the racist thugs. We were literally facing them off and it felt incredibly empowering.
Yesterday I felt hopeless but today I saw the anti-racism crowd outnumbered the racists by about 4:1. It gave me so, so much hope.
I was surprised and disappointed to see the racist crowd comprised of about 20% women.
In the end we drove away the racists, the police following their every move. It felt like a small victory. Of course, I realise they'll carry on all day becoming increasingly violent, probably set fire to a mosque or something so there's not really much to celebrate. But for a couple of hours today we overpowered them by sheer numbers and volume and it felt good. The hate on their faces was horrible to see.

Thank you.

PandoraSox · 03/08/2024 15:30

SallyWD · 03/08/2024 15:13

Last night I posted that I was so upset and angry and I wanted to do something. Today I went to Leeds City centre and stood with the anti-racism protestors against the racist thugs. We were literally facing them off and it felt incredibly empowering.
Yesterday I felt hopeless but today I saw the anti-racism crowd outnumbered the racists by about 4:1. It gave me so, so much hope.
I was surprised and disappointed to see the racist crowd comprised of about 20% women.
In the end we drove away the racists, the police following their every move. It felt like a small victory. Of course, I realise they'll carry on all day becoming increasingly violent, probably set fire to a mosque or something so there's not really much to celebrate. But for a couple of hours today we overpowered them by sheer numbers and volume and it felt good. The hate on their faces was horrible to see.

That is brilliant. Bloody well done and thank you. 💐

SallyWD · 03/08/2024 15:13

Last night I posted that I was so upset and angry and I wanted to do something. Today I went to Leeds City centre and stood with the anti-racism protestors against the racist thugs. We were literally facing them off and it felt incredibly empowering.
Yesterday I felt hopeless but today I saw the anti-racism crowd outnumbered the racists by about 4:1. It gave me so, so much hope.
I was surprised and disappointed to see the racist crowd comprised of about 20% women.
In the end we drove away the racists, the police following their every move. It felt like a small victory. Of course, I realise they'll carry on all day becoming increasingly violent, probably set fire to a mosque or something so there's not really much to celebrate. But for a couple of hours today we overpowered them by sheer numbers and volume and it felt good. The hate on their faces was horrible to see.

AlviarinAesSedai · 03/08/2024 15:04

I haven’t read the whole thread but well done to all the people who went and cleaned the area this morning.
Fire Station post is quite uplifting. Loads of people coming to clean.

absquatulize · 03/08/2024 14:57

MumblesParty · 03/08/2024 14:54

That’s an interesting point about the impact of an extra 500 men, and the imbalance that causes. As you say, anyone who dislikes it is called a racist.

It is I think important to remember that slowly processing asylum applications was a political decision made by the last government. If instead they had empowered the Home Office to get on with the processing, then those asylum seekers would have had their claims accepted or rejected and would be able to move on with their lives, and would therefore not be hanging around with nothing to do.

Appledoughnut · 03/08/2024 14:56

YabaJaba · 03/08/2024 10:15

@Shakeoffyourchains

Dont tell me 'shame on you'

All opinions are valid and you've obviously not read all of mine.

All opinions are not valid. You have a right to have an opinion. You dont have a right to not be judged for it.

MumblesParty · 03/08/2024 14:54

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That’s an interesting point about the impact of an extra 500 men, and the imbalance that causes. As you say, anyone who dislikes it is called a racist.

Rummly · 03/08/2024 14:46

PickAChew · 03/08/2024 14:44

Chanting and trashing a city/town centre are not the same thing.

Counter protests planned for Newcastle, next weekend, too. Apparently there's a pre-season friendly match on that day, too.

Who said they were?

The poster said that democracies don’t tolerate racism. Which is generally true, but overlooks at least one embarrassing exception in the case of the UK.

oakleaffy · 03/08/2024 14:44

Choochoo21 · 03/08/2024 14:12

And this is a snapshot of their clever thinking 🤔

How they manage to stay alive is an absolute miracle.

Assume he meant to say ''As long as we can build churches in Mecca''
What a daft man.
There are Gurdwaras here, and Russian orthodox Churches, but it seems to be Mosques who get the racists frothing.

As we are aware, the murderer of the little girls isn't even Muslim.
He looked to be a well brought up child in earlier images of him, neatly pressed school uniform, even featuring in a Dr Who advert.

No one could have foreseen this.

His race isn't relevant.

He is a male who clearly has serious mental health problems, as no sane person would do this to small children.

His parents probably didn't even arrive by ''small boat''.

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