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to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

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Misthios · 02/08/2024 22:29

They are not protestors. They are not protesting. They are common or garden thugs and criminals who are causing criminal damage, setting police offices on fire and attacking police officers.

Total scumbags.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

Building on fire

Protesters in Sunderland set car on fire and clash with police

Northumbria Police says its officers have been "subjected to serious violence".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cnl0lkrxgvxo

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CassieMaddox · 04/08/2024 17:25

Scirocco · 04/08/2024 17:23

I've been told I need to start showing more gratitude to this country for being allowed to live here, and if we all just appreciated that then there wouldn't be this mess because people would know we were grateful for being allowed to stay.

I was born here.

The person saying that knows I was born here, because they're a relative. They genuinely think I have less right to live in my home country than they do, because of my faith.

Fuck them. "Gratitude", fuck off! With family like that....

Scirocco · 04/08/2024 17:23

I've been told I need to start showing more gratitude to this country for being allowed to live here, and if we all just appreciated that then there wouldn't be this mess because people would know we were grateful for being allowed to stay.

I was born here.

The person saying that knows I was born here, because they're a relative. They genuinely think I have less right to live in my home country than they do, because of my faith.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/08/2024 16:56

Just had a quick look at the current global conflicts which are also apparently escalating while Shoe Zone is being turned over. Yikes. That is all.

Uricon2 · 04/08/2024 16:48

Doubtless there will be someone along in a minute to tell us that we don't really "know" that the people actually sieg heiling are fascists.

It is all awful but I do think that a fair proportion of those running amok now won't be doing it through any kind of political agenda but because they are yobs who fancy looting and setting fire to stuff. The organisers/coordinators of all this will have predicted that bandwagon jumping which makes their numbers look greater than they are.

Cold comfort I know. Doesn't make it any better, doesn't make the torrents of hate speech go away.

wayfairer · 04/08/2024 16:35

I saw the video of the holiday Inn, it was vile, imagine being inside so scary. The people outside men and women seemed to be having a jolly! Disgusting when they could potentially cause someone to be injured or even die with their smashing and setting a fire even if its a bin so stupid

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/08/2024 16:30

And actually he did say that the public may support extra police powers in these circumstances. Which is probably true as long as mission creep doesn't extend to far.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/08/2024 16:22

Rummly · 04/08/2024 16:17

Walney didn’t say that.

I know. That's what I said but GB News is advertising it as otherwise.

Rummly · 04/08/2024 16:17

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/08/2024 16:00

There's another level of whathefuckery brewing as some alleged advisor to Starmer called Lord Walney has been on GB News hinting that the public would be in favour of extraordinary measures as they were during Covid, but did deny the interviewers suggestion that riot lockdown was what he was suggesting.

I only saw this by mistake during my periodic poke around on Facebook which I do to see localised reporting at the moment as it came up on my search feed. I'm trying not to do it often as I don't want to feed the bloody algorithms, but obviously want to keep an eye on it all. Some of the hate posts being allowed to stand are just beyond belief and I think it's the tip of an iceberg being carefully managed by social media in conjunction with government directives.

As for Rotherham, bloody hell.

Walney didn’t say that.

SallyWD · 04/08/2024 16:16

LBFseBrom · 04/08/2024 15:40

Not just your country, Sally, it's happening all over the place. It will die down here and crop up somewhere else.

It is very depressing. I just had a look at my local 'paper' online and there have been no riots anywhere near where I live, I'm on the outskirts of London and it's very multicultural. I'm thankful not to be scared here but I am fearful for others. The far right are spreading their hate-filled propaganda on various FB groups, many seem to be semi-literate. They are so rude and defensive to anyone who disagrees with them. It's not really worth engaging.

I live in Leeds which is also very multicultural. It's one of the things I love most about this city. We still had riots yesterday but thankfully the anti-racism protesters outnumbered the racists. There were nasty and frightening scenes but we didn't have the kinds of scenes we're seeing in Rotherham. I wondered if that's because Leeds is so multicultural that we all have much loved black and Asian friends. Who knows...

MistressoftheDarkSide · 04/08/2024 16:00

There's another level of whathefuckery brewing as some alleged advisor to Starmer called Lord Walney has been on GB News hinting that the public would be in favour of extraordinary measures as they were during Covid, but did deny the interviewers suggestion that riot lockdown was what he was suggesting.

I only saw this by mistake during my periodic poke around on Facebook which I do to see localised reporting at the moment as it came up on my search feed. I'm trying not to do it often as I don't want to feed the bloody algorithms, but obviously want to keep an eye on it all. Some of the hate posts being allowed to stand are just beyond belief and I think it's the tip of an iceberg being carefully managed by social media in conjunction with government directives.

As for Rotherham, bloody hell.

LBFseBrom · 04/08/2024 15:40

SallyWD · 04/08/2024 15:28

I'm actually feeling sick to the stomach today. Scared, upset and depressed at what's happening to my country.

Not just your country, Sally, it's happening all over the place. It will die down here and crop up somewhere else.

It is very depressing. I just had a look at my local 'paper' online and there have been no riots anywhere near where I live, I'm on the outskirts of London and it's very multicultural. I'm thankful not to be scared here but I am fearful for others. The far right are spreading their hate-filled propaganda on various FB groups, many seem to be semi-literate. They are so rude and defensive to anyone who disagrees with them. It's not really worth engaging.

Summerflames · 04/08/2024 15:34

I feel the same SallyWD. It will only get worse before it gets better.

SallyWD · 04/08/2024 15:28

I'm actually feeling sick to the stomach today. Scared, upset and depressed at what's happening to my country.

Summerflames · 04/08/2024 15:25

Utter scumbags. I feel sorry for the emergency services atm. I'm glad we can discuss these events here, it's saved my sanity.

TattiePants · 04/08/2024 14:59

Summerflames · 04/08/2024 14:52

There's a holiday inn been set alight right now, my cousin sent me the tik tok live link. Think it's in Leeds atm. Not seen any reports of this on the news though

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I think it's a bin directly outside rather than the hotel itself but obviously that could change. I hope they had enough advance warning to evacuate the hotel.

Summerflames · 04/08/2024 14:55

It's in rotherham

Summerflames · 04/08/2024 14:52

There's a holiday inn been set alight right now, my cousin sent me the tik tok live link. Think it's in Leeds atm. Not seen any reports of this on the news though

wayfairer · 04/08/2024 14:48

DuncinToffee · 04/08/2024 11:22

Liam Thorp (Liverpool Echo)

Last night thugs set fire to the Spellow Hub Library on County Road in Liverpool - a place opened last year to help people in one of the country’s most deprived areas with routes into work and education They also set fire to a local shop

Police: ‘Many of those involved were young people and sadly, they were probably local. We are urging parents and guardians to make sure they know where their children are and what they are up to.’

Thats disgusting and a library in the most deprived area needed for so many locals! Who or why would anyone do that. Reminds me of Iraq before the imperialist went in there were 40 maybe 50 libraries in Baghdad i think it was alo g with hospitals and universities after the invasion there were 0 libraries and universities not sure whatbits like now, but probably polluted beyond anything with DE. Love libraries 😥. I wish they would stop destroying everything the tax payers are already shafted enough now will get even more crushed!

wayfairer · 04/08/2024 14:45

From lawyers for light:
Is this what people wanted?

Men with their faces covered commiting criminal damage and trying to drag immigrants from hotels. And these people have taken their children to this

If you think this is the way, you are flat out wrong. We will all suffer for this and I can almost guarantee that every one at this damage fest gives not one shit about the dead, innocent children killed around the world with UK assistance

We are a country in dire need of intelligence. We do not have it. Did any of these people react so savagely about the complete stripping of our rights in 2020, the masking of children, the injecting of children, the mandated injecting of care workers, the wholesale trampling of our autonomy? I very much doubt it, and I suspect most of these people masked and took the jab willingly.

These people have no idea what is going on at a deeper level. They are high on causing damage, and they seem to be enjoying it. I feel positive in saying that those with their faces covered may well have been paid to do this, and it is no surprise to me that as Israel loses support around the populations of the Western world, this sort of anti Muslim shit is occurring.

You may do well to look at operation Gladio and see how the direction was to switch to propagandise people into making Muslims the enemy, for Western gain around the world

I don't know my country any more. It is riven with globalist mind control and agenda policies and I wholeheartedly agree it is being ruined by them. But if we are ever to see those in "power" accountable for what they've done, this is not the way. Frankly a general strike for a month or two and a complete withdrawal of paying council taxes would grind this country to a halt, and mean that people have to be listened to. But that would actually take everyone standing together, and there is no chance of that

I post this as I'm on holiday from this channel, but I've taken the time to do so only because I am bereft at what I'm seeing. I will never support this as the way to deal with the very broad range of issues we as a country, and indeed the world, are facing

Today, no doubt, many more innocent people have had their lives cut short in the middle east, purely because of Western hegemony and greed. It looks like Iran will take action against Israel very soon, and that a full scale kinetic war will break out. If you don't think these things are connected to what is happening in the UK, you are not thinking deeply enough imho, because the West very much needs people to hate and other Muslims, in its quest to ravage the Middle East through war

What I'm fearful of now is the backlash and violence that could occur as a result of this. We could all find ourselves, having to take a side on this, simply to protect ourselves and our families. It's not a position I ever wanted to be in and I know that it's been pushed on us by the same small group that have caused untold misery for the last 4 years, and many years before that

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MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2024 14:44

That truly is shocking @Rummly. why on earth would they destroy a vital public facility that serves so many deprived residents? So, thousands of kids, amongst others, with potentially no access to books during the school holidays?
Morons.

Rummly · 04/08/2024 14:28

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2024 14:19

Yes, appalling.
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God knows why Liverpool locals would burn down their own libraries.“

Many of these yobs aren’t locals.

The police in Liverpool said they were.

PandoraSox · 04/08/2024 14:25

Rummly · 04/08/2024 14:10

Yes, appalling.

God knows why Liverpool locals would burn down their own libraries.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2024 14:19

Yes, appalling.
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God knows why Liverpool locals would burn down their own libraries.“

Many of these yobs aren’t locals.

Rummly · 04/08/2024 14:10

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2024 13:55

Rummly
But I’m reading that there was significant disorder there yesterday, including a library burnt down …….

Nazis burning books. Reminiscent.

Yes, appalling.

God knows why Liverpool locals would burn down their own libraries.

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2024 13:55

Rummly
But I’m reading that there was significant disorder there yesterday, including a library burnt down …….

Nazis burning books. Reminiscent.