to think these people in Sunderland are not "protesting".

Heard a 'protestor' being interviewed on the radio earlier - he was arrested and was furious about it.

He wasn't a rioter, he travelled hundreds of miles to protest peacefully and almost took his wife and kids, he'd never been to a protest before. Somehow, he was kettled and arrested for criminal violence instead and just wanted everyone - his family, friends, employer - to know that he wasn't a racist thug.

He couldn't articulate what he was protesting about - 'everything' - so I guess just general dissatisfaction with a shit life and needed someone to blame, and someone to pay.

Oh, he did say that one thing he wanted was for the police to crack down on crime. Until the presenter pointed out the irony.

Tommy 10 names is wanting to hold a protest in glasgow. Looking forward to see George square smashed up again

Nobody is above the law

Yeah it's a fantastic idea, I totally won't end up getting a brick thrown at me, will I? They'll all just want to sit down with a cup of tea and talk this thing out. Jesus Christ.

If they want to be listened to, why aren't they talking? Why can't any of those absolutely frothing at the mouth with excitement online about how they're traveling to these "protests" give a coherent reason for it other than "keeping our kiddies safe" or "gotta get our country back mate" 🙄

Women are being beaten and killed by men who have been reported for DV time and again and nothing is done until it's too late, rape conviction rates are a stain on our society, yet funnily enough you don't see hoards of us throwing bricks through the local weatherspoons do you?

If they want my time and attention then guess what, rioting and violence and using the tragic deaths of young children as their excuse is not the way to get it.

That is a fantastic idea as it happens. Shutting people down for having opinions does not work. Listening to and discussing in a constructive way to ensure everyones opinion is important and valid is the way forward.

I suspect the late 80's and early 90's were more harmonious with regard to inclusivity of all races living in the UK. There was a peace among the less affluent working class of all colours.

Oh ok, well I'll pop down to one of their "protests" tomorrow shall I and see how many want to sit down and have an intelligent conversation about their legitimate concerns for society. I'm sure they'd be well up for taking a break from hurling bricks knocked out of people's walls to talk to me. Maybe we can write a letter to their MP or something.

The rioters are just thugs. There’s no excuse for this violence.

It does make me laugh, though, that when violent disorder breaks out when the Tories are in charge there are loads of posters on here shouting “it’s about poverty and injustice!”.

But when there’s a Labour government the MN view is that these toe-rags are indeed toe-rags.

Northernnature · Today 01:02

I blame politicians going back to Tony Blair. They took the racially harmonious country of the 90s and turned it into a divided country. There have been multiple attacks by asylum seekers maybe with mental health issues from dangerous countries in recent years - Reading - 3 gay men murdered in park, David Amess mp...

Yes, before 1997, we lived in an idyllic, crime free utopia. There were no prisons and no crime and everyone went promenading, after church, on Sundays.

Oh, hang on! I meant to say, "What an unmitigated pile of mince."

Remind me, who killed Jo Cox? His name wasn't Achmed.

The images and videos I have seen aren't of 'poor wee young men'. They are knocking on middle age and look just like the average man on the street.

Obviously I can't speak for any of them any more than you can. However if you were to spend some time speaking and listening to these people you will find many more like them who are deeply unhappy.

People holding what were considered middle of the road political opinions are now tainted as right wing. People asking for an immigration system that is proportionate to what the Country can support are called racist.

Democratic voters pro Brexit were pilloried, watched as any amount of Euro supporters did everything they could to stop that democratic process, and then got shafted by a goverment that didn't deliver on what they promised when they invited the people to vote.

No matter your own personal opinion. That is the opinion of large swathes of the population.

Oh can we get to fuck with the "poor wee young men, so left behind and no one cares about them, that's why they're hurling rocks and missiles" narrative please?? If nobody cares about them then why, not one week after the events of Southport, has the news been entirely taken over with these yobs and "no one is listening to them" comments. I bet most of them can't even name the victims names.

Many are just pissed off that people of other races and orientations are now being given the same rights that they have always had and still have. "Oh you can't be a white heterosexual in this country anymore anymore" 🙄

If they want to improve "our country" maybe they should contribute something other than vile hate and violence.

And don't even try to tell me they're there out of any concern for women and children's welfare. If that was true they'd be up in arms about rape conviction rates and domestic violence statistics, but they aren't because they do not actually care about such things, they just want an excuse to attack anyone "other" than themselves.

I don't want them ignored, I want them locked up except for being forced to clean up their fucking mess.

What is it you find offensive about it?

I am a proud makem

Those thugs in Sunderland yesterday are a small minority

I am aware of the Monkey reference and yes it's obvious @ChemicalAli is confused or just plain bloody rude

But I find that comment offensive

Think ali has got confused. The monkey myth is about Hartlepool and dates back hundreds of years. Look up the Trinkomelee, interesting story.

Your last sentence is exactly the problem behind these demonstrations/riots/protests or whatever someone wishes to call them. The working class of all faiths and colours feel disinfranchised from our ruling classes. They believe their concerns are not listened to and acted on.

I don't believe heinous crimes like Southport or the ones you describe didn't happen before. But they do seem to be more frequent in recent years.

Like you I am no fan of Blair and do blame his leadership and dishonesty along with his love of Bush (President and warmongerer) for a lot of the worlds problems today. I live in hope given his conversion to catholicism, he gets the full treatment down below.

Thanks you for your comment

I'm from Sunderland and it's full of lovely hardworking people

That's an outrageous statement

Two British Indian female politicians notable for their sustained ant-immigrant rhetoric when in government. And the two white male politicians mentioned in the same sentence.

So 2 Indian women provoking the attacks ?

No it is just any excuse for violence. Some of these will be the same as the Antifa protectors.

TattiePants · Yesterday 22:42

They are absolutely not protesting. I'm local and grew up in the 80s with football hooligans at Roker Park.

I came down to Sunderland for university and lived just off Hylton Road, near where they were having a go at the mosque. It's a bloody disgrace; like many places, there's always been a racist element, I remember the mosque on Chester Road getting firebombed.

My SiL is in the West End of Newcastle, less than 100 yards from the little Mosque and not very far from the big one, just off the West Road. The Indian food shop is just on the corner from her, too; I hope they don't smash it up.

I live at the coast and saw a Coptic priest being abused a couple of years ago. A big silver cross on his turban and one on a necklace didn't seem to convince the moron that he wasn't a Muslim.

They're just violent hooligans, using nothing as an excuse for a tear up. I feel sorry for anyone who lives near the likely trouble spots.

I wish somebody would accidentally on purpose set loose some XL bullies in the middle of the rioting thugs. Might as well put those dogs to some use and save the tax payers some money on prison costs for these yobs.

Actually one way to end the protests is for the police and politicians to stand there and debate them 'OK so Actually explain why you are here, give me one coherent answer that makes sense'

Wonder how articulate they would be?

What a pile of horse shit.
People are angry, a person born and brought up in Britain, is alleged to have committed a heinous act, so it's OK to justify other people destroying property, injuring our police, wasting our resources and threatening people because they don't look like them?

These jumped up ignorant fuckers are using a tragedy to politicise their agenda if hate.. it's heinous.

I don't give a flying fuck about what they want.

They don’t want the new pm threatening the protesters. They want to hear about what he’s going to do to make our children safe at school and in clubs. How he will tackle terrorism and violent crime. Attacking children is an act of terror….ive been getting emails from holiday clubs talking about extra safety measures after the attack. We are all scared because of this act.

This was a sad, despicable act of violence by a underage teenager. Why do you think rioting in the streets will prevent this from happening again? Right now, the best thing our PM could do, is get these mindless thugs off our streets.

This has been caused by the fear and hate being whipped up by the likes of Farage, Braverman, Anderson, Patel. The new Labour government has to fix something broken by the previous administration and to blame them for this is utterly inane. You are at least 3 years early with the riots for that.