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BBC Athletics commentary is dire because.......

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Pipsquiggle · 02/08/2024 19:07

Of the crowd noise!

Trying to hear Gabby, Denise, Jess & Michael but it sounds like they are in the crowd - lots of clapping and cheering, you can't hear them speak.

The sound department need to sort this out ASAP. It's really ruining the programme.

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Tumblingjungleofchaos · 09/08/2024 10:07

There's a lot of hate for Clare Balding but she is very good at the "holding it all together live while being smiley" role. Very experienced.

Her getting emotional over Andy Murray retiring was lovely. She does genuinely love all sorts of sports.

Davros · 05/08/2024 14:31

The cricket commentators use those microphones that are a funny shape and they hold right up to their mouths, seems to work. We took out a one month subscription to Discovery+ for £6.99, renewal already cancelled. Well worth it for the volley ball alone

RaraRachael · 05/08/2024 13:07

Claire Balding did a Radio 2 Sunday morning show. It was so awful I stopped listening. Don't know what it was but it just didn't work.

MiscellaneousSupportHuman · 05/08/2024 12:39

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 04/08/2024 22:00

Rebecca Adlington is great. Articulate and insightful. Lovely dresses too.
Mark Foster is OK. Gold medal for manspreading.
Clare Balding grates on my nerves. What has she ever won?

Many many flat races - she was leading female British jockey for a while

Sports commentary role started with racing, but she branched out, and then became a general sports anchor. So I think her role is to hold it all together (as individual former champs may talk well on their sport, but be less skilled in holding a broadcast together. Plus she seems able to turn her hand to being enthusiastic./appreciative spectator type of comment when there is no expert available.

Turophilic · 05/08/2024 12:08

CarrieHain · 05/08/2024 11:32

Five pages in and no one has said how awful Paula Radcliffe is. Breathy and long-winded.

That’s because, as earlier, if it’s not Andrew Cotter I reimagine everything they say in his voice.

Or, if I’m bored, Jeff Goldblum

CarrieHain · 05/08/2024 11:32

Five pages in and no one has said how awful Paula Radcliffe is. Breathy and long-winded.

redalex261 · 05/08/2024 11:17

Love the Olympics and most of the commentary, especially the gold medal winning athletics commentators (@VeronicaBeccabunga ). Gymnastics commenters are knowledgeable and very fair in their remarks, quick to praise other countries’ competitors and not at all partisan.

Swimming - Clare, Mark n’ Becky are great, the unseen two men (Adrian Moorhouse and partner) are awful - very biased.

Leon Taylor at diving is fabulous, but that bloody woman Kat he is always paired with - she is TERRIBLE. Droning “in gold medal position after the first dive”. FFS there are five or six rounds of dives, and it can all turn in an instant. She’s been reminded multiple times over the years by Leon of this but she persists in doing it. Why on earth was she selected for this role?

Agree the trackside interviewers are insensitive and trite. How do you feel (after seeing your past four years work wiped out in 21.3 seconds)?

But still watch it all!

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 05/08/2024 11:11

ASaltyWoman · 04/08/2024 22:09

The female rowing commentator was a bit nails-on-blackboard with HER. PEAK. EXCITEMENT. AT. LITERALLY. EVERY. STROKE!!!!! But I would happily have listened to Matt Pinsent and Katherine Grainger all day. They also looked as if they'd brought along a tremendous picnic hamper in the back of the Discovery.

Otherwise it'd be helpful to get a few explainers for any event involving complex and hard to see manoeuvres, like gymnastics, skateboarding, BMX gymnastics, etc, instead of the commentator just screaming, 'That was a double Kravchenko with an Oops on the outspin!!!'.

Oh yes the rowing lady is Very Intense and LOUD! But I agree that Katherine Grainger is brilliant.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 05/08/2024 11:05

bridgetreilly · 04/08/2024 20:27

Steve Cram, Paula Radcliffe, Steve Backley… absolute no-hopers.

I like hearing the crowd. It adds atmosphere. But I can see it’s problematic for people with hearing issues.

Just because sportspeople were great at their sport doesn't mean they will make a great professional broadcaster and commentator.
It's obviously a very different skill set - they may have the knowledge but it's putting it across in a helpful way to an audience that counts.

Foxxo · 05/08/2024 11:03

My only commentator complaint is how negative Johnson can be about people.

I also think there is too much waffling going on, staying with the Rowing commentators for 15 mins while they were talking rubbish, rather than cutting back to the Hockey Game that was going on, for instance.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 05/08/2024 11:01

Turophilic · 04/08/2024 16:24

They are all unacceptable because they are not Andrew Cotter (of Olive and Mabel fame alongside his more conventional commentating career) and they are taking up airtime that could usefully be given to him instead of themselves.

I want Andrew Cotter to commentate on absolutely everything always.

Some of the lockdown Olive and Mabel videos are doing the rounds again on SM just now and they are still brilliant. Grin

Foxxo · 05/08/2024 11:00

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 04/08/2024 22:00

Rebecca Adlington is great. Articulate and insightful. Lovely dresses too.
Mark Foster is OK. Gold medal for manspreading.
Clare Balding grates on my nerves. What has she ever won?

Clare was a quite successful amateur jockey in the late 80s, early 90s, and most of her family are involved in Training Horses, several of which who've been very successful.
That aside, her entire working career has been in Radio, then TV as a presenter. She also writes sports columns for several papers and magazine, and presented Sunday Grandstand before it was discontinued.

She's commentated for 7 Olympics so far, 5 Paralympics, several Winter Olypmics and the Commonwealth Games.. so i'd say she's very adequately qualified for her job.

RaraRachael · 05/08/2024 10:18

Thought Balding, Adlington, Foster made watching swimming on an evening a total joy. I felt I got to know members of Team GB swimmers so well through their discussions and the interviews by Sharron Davis.

Very true. Somehow Sharron's interviews work whereas the athletics ones are awful and I feel for the athletes.

Sheelanogig · 05/08/2024 10:11

Altheletics pundit team talk too much (Johnson,Ennis etc.). Too many repeats of action just done.
And they are somehow boring.and slightly patronising.

There was a segment on Radio 5 in their Olympics coverage last week and it was Johnson talking about himself for over 20mins. OK an amazing career, total respect but there was so much bloody live sport action going on....

Thought Balding, Adlington, Foster made watching swimming on an evening a total joy. I felt I got to know members of Team GB swimmers so well through their discussions and the interviews by Sharron Davis.

GasPanic · 05/08/2024 10:09

TellingBone · 05/08/2024 01:07

What irks me is the fashion for having studio presenters awkwardly holding individual mics. They had the technology years ago to site multiple mics on the desk in front of each one. It's just for show.

I suspect they have those mikes because the closer the mike is to the source (the commentators voice), the higher the level of the voice relative to the background noise.

ie, they have a background noise problem. I don't think it is just for show.

GasPanic · 05/08/2024 10:08

I'm surprised they don't have some sort of noise cancelling where they can sample the background noise and subtract it from the mikes in real time.

They can do this on a £200 set of headphones so the multi billion pound BBC should be able to handle it.

I have noticed similar issues where they tend to have this on the extravagant open air studios. It was the same on the Euros IIRC , where there were drunken roars from fans in the background from the studio overlooking the Brandenburg gate.

RaraRachael · 05/08/2024 09:59

@GoldOnyx My OH (who knows nothing about gymnastics) came into the room and said "Why is Johnny Vegas commentating?"

It's an awful, awful voice to listen to and their endless listing of the moves is so boring. Can't we just enjoy the routines with a few relevant comments instead of the non stop babbling.

TellingBone · 05/08/2024 01:07

What irks me is the fashion for having studio presenters awkwardly holding individual mics. They had the technology years ago to site multiple mics on the desk in front of each one. It's just for show.

Davros · 04/08/2024 23:31

@bridgetreilly I knew you were joking about some of the commentators being "no hopers". For those who didn't, it helps to read the whole thread 🤷‍♀️
Someone said Clare Balding knows nothing, or words to that effect, I thought she was a top horsey person in her day

GoldOnyx · 04/08/2024 23:29

larkstar · 04/08/2024 22:49

@LuluBlakey1 I love Katherine Grainger! Such a high achiever. Clare is sometimes a bit too intense. Becky is great - a bit of a goofball but she knows what she's taking about.

I wouldn’t agree she is a goofball. She comes across as very sweet and caring, with a good sense of humour and bubbliness. I don’t think that makes her a goofball. To me, the word goofball suggests she’s a bit silly and accident prone, and I think that’d actually be quite a mean way to describe her. I don’t think she could’ve got to where she has done by being a goofball!!

GoldOnyx · 04/08/2024 23:26

larkstar · 04/08/2024 22:40

The gymnastics commentary grates on me - Matt Baker I don't mind but every move on the uneven bars is a Katchev - it gets mentioned every 5s - WTF is it? Every 10s someone says "this has got to be perfect" and Craig Heap's voice - eugh!! There used to be a crabby old woman who frequented a local cafe who was always offering my young kids out of date fruit polos - I used to watch her trying to peel off the wrapping paper that was stuck to them using her obscenely flakey bright pink nails - (I'm miming to the kids - don't eat them!) then she'd try and cadge a free cuppa off me (the people serving in the cafe mime to me "don't fall for that old trick") - she had a raspy hoarse voice that belonged in an episode of The League of Gentlemen - every time Craig speaks that's all I can think of.

I didn’t know Craig Heap’s name until now but his voice really, really reminds me of Johnny Vegas’s voice 😂😂 I remember when I first heard him commentate, at the Tokyo Olympics, and even though I did know it wasn’t actually Johnny Vegas’s voice, all I could think of was ‘but why is Johnny Vegas commentating on the gymnastics?’

Fizbosshoes · 04/08/2024 22:57

Guavafish1 · 03/08/2024 19:38

Crowds too loud.

Commentary is good.

Not sure about the journalists interviewing the athletes post event.

’I’ll give you a moment to compose yourself’ immediately after losing a chance of winning an Olympic medal and shoving a microphone in their face

I hate this too. Literally just missed out on a medal/place in the final, sometimes by the narrowest of margins.....and they're trying to interview them about how it went....they're going to be absolutely gutted and probably not want to speak to anyone let alone be on camera!

TeresaCrowd · 04/08/2024 22:55

RaraRachael · 02/08/2024 19:56

The other two on the gymnastics annoy me. I know they're knowledgeable but I want to switch off when I hear them.

Note to commentators- "medal" and "podium" are not verbs

‘to medal’ is what the kids did to stop the baddies in Scooby Doo. Grates on me too!

(I know it’s spelled differently)

LuluBlakey1 · 04/08/2024 22:52

larkstar · 04/08/2024 22:49

@LuluBlakey1 I love Katherine Grainger! Such a high achiever. Clare is sometimes a bit too intense. Becky is great - a bit of a goofball but she knows what she's taking about.

I like Katherine Grainger (thanks for reminding me of her name 😁) just not as a pair with Mathew Pinsent.

larkstar · 04/08/2024 22:49

@LuluBlakey1 I love Katherine Grainger! Such a high achiever. Clare is sometimes a bit too intense. Becky is great - a bit of a goofball but she knows what she's taking about.

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