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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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poetryandwine · 23/08/2024 12:46

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 12:40

Hilarious. And what's Trump? If you're not keen on candidates who self-promote, he is far worse.

This, @Viviennemary

user556453 · 23/08/2024 12:43

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 12:39

You're equating two completely different things. One (volatile) individual asks questions of KH vs an actual trial in a court of law in which DJT was found guilty on 34 counts.
How is Harris's record 'dirt' in any way? There was no need to 'trawl' for it, it's on the record whereas Trump was actually investigated by official agents of the law and put on trial.

Not to mention accused by his victim(s)

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 12:40

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 12:23

I think she's awful. A totally fake self promoter,

Hilarious. And what's Trump? If you're not keen on candidates who self-promote, he is far worse.

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twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 12:39

JL690 · 23/08/2024 12:24

No, just the way each side trawls though their opponents pasts to dig up all the dirt they can. I'm no fan of Trump, won't defend him.

You're equating two completely different things. One (volatile) individual asks questions of KH vs an actual trial in a court of law in which DJT was found guilty on 34 counts.
How is Harris's record 'dirt' in any way? There was no need to 'trawl' for it, it's on the record whereas Trump was actually investigated by official agents of the law and put on trial.

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MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 12:39

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 12:23

I think she's awful. A totally fake self promoter,

Whereas Trump is just an authentic shy retiring wall flower who would never dream of hocking Bibles, gold trainers and weird AI trading cards.

When you look up self promoting in the dictionary, Trump is literally the definition of that term. He is running for president to stay out of prison. Self interest is at the very core of his being. He does not care what harm comes to anyone else. Not his political colleagues in the Capitol during the riot, not the investors who he encouraged to invest in Trump media which is currently tanking, or the small businesses he drove to bankruptcy by defrauding. He is literally the most self serving individual in existence.

SocksAndTheCity · 23/08/2024 12:33

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 12:23

I think she's awful. A totally fake self promoter,

How do you suggest politicians who are running for elected office win elections, if not by promoting themselves as much as possible?

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 12:31

I asked this of someone who said similar to you. They didn't reply.

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 12:29

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 12:23

I think she's awful. A totally fake self promoter,

What would you like to happen then? It's a binary choice. Is she so totally fake that Trump would be better as leader of the free world, is that what you're saying?

Surely it would be better for Harris to win, the country will remain stable (which it won't under the useful idiot Trump) and the Republicans nominate someone else and rebuild their support for 4 years time.

But obviously if you are a Trump supporter, my questions are rhetorical.

JL690 · 23/08/2024 12:24

user556453 · 23/08/2024 12:21

Are you equating working in a job and applying the justice system in a way that might not fit with everyone's differing principles (including mine) and tax fraud, misusing funds to influence the outcome of an election and sexual assault?

No, just the way each side trawls though their opponents pasts to dig up all the dirt they can. I'm no fan of Trump, won't defend him.

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 12:23

I think she's awful. A totally fake self promoter,

user556453 · 23/08/2024 12:21

JL690 · 23/08/2024 12:10

Well, the democrats went trawling way back into Trumps history to bring up the charges he was found guilty of, so I guess it works both ways. Past behaviour does matter.

Are you equating working in a job and applying the justice system in a way that might not fit with everyone's differing principles (including mine) and tax fraud, misusing funds to influence the outcome of an election and sexual assault?

JL690 · 23/08/2024 12:10

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 11:57

Do you actually have a vote? I find it scary that some voters seem to be so easily taken in by scraps of video from more than 4 years ago.

Well, the democrats went trawling way back into Trumps history to bring up the charges he was found guilty of, so I guess it works both ways. Past behaviour does matter.

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 11:58

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 11:20

I loved the bit where Mike Lindell said something to the Child like:

"Do you keep up with the news, do you know what's going on?"

and the Child replies:

"Yeah, I do. I heard all about your bankruptcy too"

Another great line from the Child to Lindell:

"So your evidence on election interference is just trust me bro ?" (head tilt)

That Child just absolutely nailed the MAGA idiot.

That kid was stellar. Always asking for the evidence!

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twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 11:57

JL690 · 23/08/2024 11:04

I stand corrected on the dates, apologies. I though it was interesting KH did not deny the criticisms, implying they were factual, and I wouldn't vote in any election for anyone who did these things. I'm not a Trump fan either, I think the USA has had to make choices between entirely unsuitable candidates for the last 2 elections tbh. It's scary.

Do you actually have a vote? I find it scary that some voters seem to be so easily taken in by scraps of video from more than 4 years ago.

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poetryandwine · 23/08/2024 11:56

JL690 · 23/08/2024 11:04

I stand corrected on the dates, apologies. I though it was interesting KH did not deny the criticisms, implying they were factual, and I wouldn't vote in any election for anyone who did these things. I'm not a Trump fan either, I think the USA has had to make choices between entirely unsuitable candidates for the last 2 elections tbh. It's scary.

Not wasting precious minutes of your allocated time in a debate refuting attacks by an opponent doesn’t make those attacks true.
This is the core dilemma for Trump’s debate opponents

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/08/2024 11:56

Just for the record, trump vastly increased the US national debt well before the pandemic, with tax cuts and spending. It wasn't just Covid, by far.

thehill.com/business/4426965-trump-added-8-4-trillion-to-the-national-debt-analysis/amp/

He was a disaster in so many ways. I'm pleased at how well Harris has been doing.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 11:20

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 10:16

Did anyone see Mike Lindell (Trumps big supporter and bestie) lose an argument to a 12 year old child, it was hilarious 😂

I did! I'm surprised he didn't challenge him to a pillow fight! In all seriousness, any other time it would be classified as bullying a child but that 12 year old stood their ground!

I loved the bit where Mike Lindell said something to the Child like:

"Do you keep up with the news, do you know what's going on?"

and the Child replies:

"Yeah, I do. I heard all about your bankruptcy too"

Another great line from the Child to Lindell:

"So your evidence on election interference is just trust me bro ?" (head tilt)

That Child just absolutely nailed the MAGA idiot.

JL690 · 23/08/2024 11:04

WildLemur · 23/08/2024 02:22

That's not true.

The clip you posted is from the second Dem debate, at the end of July 2019.

Harris did not drop out the next day - she remained in the race until December, attending 3 more debates.

Gabbard's criticisms of Harris are not entirely baseless, but are heavily spun (and many have been addressed already in the thread).

Gabbard also spent much of Obama's tenure criticizing him on Fox News and was buddying up with Trump and Bannon even before running for the Dem nomination, then promptly left the Democratic Party. She's now helping Trump prep for the upcoming debate. She's an odd case...

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I stand corrected on the dates, apologies. I though it was interesting KH did not deny the criticisms, implying they were factual, and I wouldn't vote in any election for anyone who did these things. I'm not a Trump fan either, I think the USA has had to make choices between entirely unsuitable candidates for the last 2 elections tbh. It's scary.

heldinadream · 23/08/2024 10:35

I honestly never thought I'd see the day when a political party convention moved me to such hope and joyful tears. The whole thing has been fabulous. She will win, but, ALMOST more important the malignancy that is Trump will be finished. Darkness, as they described him and his campaign, indeed. That he will be beaten by a black woman is just delicious. And I LOVE Walz! (Having wanted Mark Kelly I'm perfectly happy she chose Walz.)
I so look forward to seeing the actual election unfold. I keep thinking of the title of Obama's book - The Audacity of Hope. She is the further fruition of the work he and Michelle have put in - and loads of other people of course.
I think her speech was perfectly pitched and authentic. I'm relieved as she doesn't always come across well enough. I listened to the whole thing in the middle of the night on BBC World Service (I'm a Brit).
She has now. 😍
I was sooooooo pleased when the US elected Obama. Now another opportunity to be delightedly cheering the US on!

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 23/08/2024 10:22

User6874356 · 23/08/2024 10:19

No. Not a trump fan either but both have their flaws

He's a malignant narcissist, dangerous to the entire world. Anyone but him.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 23/08/2024 10:21

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:15

The debt only increased under Trump because of Covid

Because of his disastrous policies. Yes.

User6874356 · 23/08/2024 10:19

No. Not a trump fan either but both have their flaws

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 10:16

Did anyone see Mike Lindell (Trumps big supporter and bestie) lose an argument to a 12 year old child, it was hilarious 😂

I did! I'm surprised he didn't challenge him to a pillow fight! In all seriousness, any other time it would be classified as bullying a child but that 12 year old stood their ground!

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 08:39

Harris and Walz absolutely nailed it at the DNC. The Obamas were amazing. I see they're about to reach $500M in donations (compared to Republicans $150M), which is historic.

The orange one is in complete ranting meltdown making no sense whatsoever, as usual. He was so bad it got to the point where even Fox news were calling him out on what's he going to do now he's down in the polls. Suspect Murdoch is seeing the writing on the wall. Jessica Tarlov is doing a great job of balancing the crazy on there. Plus hopefully we have the Trump sentencing next month and the evidentiary hearings in the Jan 6 case. So much more legal drama to come for Trump.

Harris is going to the White House, Trump is going to the Big House.

Did anyone see Mike Lindell (Trumps big supporter and bestie) lose an argument to a 12 year old child, it was hilarious 😂

knitnerd90 · 23/08/2024 07:54

Tulsi Gabbard is very weird. Reportedly the Hindu sect she grew up in is a cult. She's also the sort who used being antiwar to stand up for some rather terrible people. Went to Syria to meet with Assad in 2017.

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