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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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Sitdownrosa · 02/08/2024 20:03

user1484056932 · 02/08/2024 19:35

Kamala is abysmal, she makes Biden look competent.

Genuinely would like to know why she's so bad?

WildLemur · 02/08/2024 19:59

Hatfullofwillow · 02/08/2024 19:52

Not excited, it'll be close. Even if the Democrats win, there are 70 election officials in states that are likely to be close, who believe the election in 2020 was stolen from Trump. There's a very real possibility that they will simply refuse to certify results.

Yes, that's the biggest worry - that the MAGA cultists intalled as election officials will falsely claim irregularities and Mike Johnson will use it to overturn the election and install Trump. The Trumpian Project 2025 freakshow have been winking that everything is in motion, and that they're prepared to use violence if need be.

A big Kamala win would, you would hope, make it harder to steal, but there is a chance the the US dies as a democracy later this year.

The polls give me hope but, as you say, a Kamala win doesn't mean Trump won't be president again.

WildLemur · 02/08/2024 19:54

AthenaBasil · 02/08/2024 19:51

I hope they learn from Clinton’s failures and don’t go heavy on the identity politics. Is there a worse slogan than “I’m with her”. I’ll be excited if she wins (or more likely just relieved) but I’m nervous about her chances.

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Agreed, but she does seem to have learned from it.

In her speech yesterday, she brushed off Trump's racist lies about her yesterday as the "same old show" and promptly moved on to other topics.

Hatfullofwillow · 02/08/2024 19:52

Not excited, it'll be close. Even if the Democrats win, there are 70 election officials in states that are likely to be close, who believe the election in 2020 was stolen from Trump. There's a very real possibility that they will simply refuse to certify results.

AthenaBasil · 02/08/2024 19:51

I hope they learn from Clinton’s failures and don’t go heavy on the identity politics. Is there a worse slogan than “I’m with her”. I’ll be excited if she wins (or more likely just relieved) but I’m nervous about her chances.

nightmaries · 02/08/2024 19:50

I want her to win, so badly, desperately.

I don't think she will win, petrifyingly.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 19:46

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:15

The debt only increased under Trump because of Covid

Yeah, I think you need to do a bit more reading..

https://thehill.com/business/4426965-trump-added-8-4-trillion-to-the-national-debt-analysis/

WildLemur · 02/08/2024 19:44

I was lukewarm on her before Biden dropped out but she has spoken tremendously since then. She has already pulled ahead in the polls (including swing states) and some betting markets- there are lots of reasons to be optimistic.

Most of the criticism of her coming from the Republican side seems pretty desperate too. A lot of race-related stuff (she's a DEI hire, she said she's Indian) or false (she was/is the Border Czar).

Provided there are no Maga vote-rigging hijinks, I do think she is the likely next President.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 19:43

Dweetfidilove · 02/08/2024 19:20

Me too. She's so bad, she makes grown men cry.

You mean she makes grown old orange men cry 🤣😂

twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 19:38

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 18:53

Absolutely not. She's horrendous.

To you, is she more horrendous than Trump? Given that it's a binary choice

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user1484056932 · 02/08/2024 19:35

Kamala is abysmal, she makes Biden look competent.

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:34

@DiamondGoldandSilver , today’s job figures and forecasts are worse than was expected. As such there is a massive sell off on the markets. Dow Jones and S$P are down considerably resulting in a global sell off as well,

Sitdownrosa · 02/08/2024 19:25

My Threads feed is throwing up a LOT of US election stuff although I'm in the UK, and Kamala has gained a huge amount of support in a very, very short time - it seems like a lot of different communities are turning out to support her who wouldn't normally vote, or who would be floating voters are being galvanised into supporting her. There have been huge zoom calls with tens of thousands of people on at a time, which are raising millions of $ in donations.

I've yet to see anyone on Mumsnet explain why she's a monster or why she's so terrible.

Dweetfidilove · 02/08/2024 19:20

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 18:57

I've listened to her speak for more than 30 seconds.

Me too. She's so bad, she makes grown men cry.

Dweetfidilove · 02/08/2024 19:17

I'm not excited about her per se (I still need convincing), but I'm enjoying the fun she's having /will have The Donald up to election and anyone is betterthanhim.

I'm also enjoying The Donald making an ass of himself as usual. The NABJ interview was a spectacle.

On a more serious note, things are moving in the right direction with the amount of support galvanising around her candidacy, so I'm hopeful. I'm hoping they get the same result as they did for Biden.

America went nuts after getting a black male president, however, so let's see what they'd do with a black / brown woman.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 19:17

LeedsZebra90 · 02/08/2024 19:13

She wouldnt be my first choice and unfortunately I don't think the swing states will vote for her in the numbers they need to. The BBC and mainstream UK media will make her seem a lot more popular than the reality in the states right now. I do really hope she wins, but I don't think she will.

She is literally leading a large majority of swing state polls right now. By +11 points in Michigan I believe. That's only in 2 weeks!

She has many paths to win this election by a clear majority.

Do you watch the news??

halava · 02/08/2024 19:17

It won't boil down to the Christians or the Liberals. The so far undecided who were dithering over an ill incumbent and a mad wannabe now have a decent alternative to Trump.

So at least there's that, and I wish her all the luck in the world. The US needs sanity to prevail. All the better if it's a woman. We shall see what booby traps and mysoginistic racist rants emanate from ye old Orange man. That's how he riles up the troops. But they would have voted for him anyway.

EsmaCannonball · 02/08/2024 19:16

She wouldn't have been my choice of candidate but if I were American I would vote for any Democrat nominee over Trump. My concern is she could end up being one of those politicians who wins on social media but not in reality. Got to admit, she is doing better than I expected right now but that's mainly due to the Democrats putting on a united front than to her performance.

Although I think a female president would be important in showing that it could be achieved, I really don't get all the 'Woo! A female president!' stuff. Ultimately, it's the character and the policies of the person that count. I guess when you've sat through Margaret Thatcher, Theresa May and Liz Truss you know the symbolism doesn't amount to very much in the end.

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:15

The debt only increased under Trump because of Covid

LeedsZebra90 · 02/08/2024 19:13

She wouldnt be my first choice and unfortunately I don't think the swing states will vote for her in the numbers they need to. The BBC and mainstream UK media will make her seem a lot more popular than the reality in the states right now. I do really hope she wins, but I don't think she will.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 19:13

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:07

Well, the US economy is currently tanking so unless she and Biden can turn it around before November then she is probably toast.

Better not give it to Trump then, who exponentially increased the US national debt during his tenure.

Tbh, every tantrum Trump throws in public is making him less and less electable. The polls are clearly showing how his popularity is decreasing on a daily basis, which makes him spiral more in panic.

J.D Vance is the nail in his coffin. That guy is just weird. In fact they're both just weird and creepy.

CrunchyCarrot · 02/08/2024 19:10

Heatherbell1978 · 02/08/2024 19:01

I will shed tears of joy (and relief) if she wins but I'm really nervous. Trump is clearly completely inappropriate for the job but racism and misogyny is rife in the US. Are people willing to have a female bi-racial president? Of course she should win but there are a lot of stupid people out there. Brexit really taught me that.

There's also the Christian vote to consider, I was listening to a podcast today where a young Christian woman (American) said Kamala mustn't win and went on about her childlessness. It was dreadful. Apparently it's because Trump is anti-abortion and that's the main reason why many Christians there are supporting him.

ShinyNewMe · 02/08/2024 19:09

I've listened to her speak for a good deal more than 30 seconds and I think she's pretty fast thinking, and vigorous, unlike trump. The only slight fly in the ointment is I find her speech a bit nasal and I don't know if it's just me but it might be a drawback if anyone finds it slightly annoying. Having said that, in recent days it's taken a back seat somewhat as I'm now more impressed with what she says than how she talks. Given that I'm sick to the back teeth of hearing Trump's voice hers is an improvement.

StripedPiggy · 02/08/2024 19:09

DiamondGoldandSilver · 02/08/2024 18:54

For those who dislike her, what is your reasoning?

This is Mumsnet. Guess. 🙄

DiamondGoldandSilver · 02/08/2024 19:09

@Molly70 are you sure that’s right? I understand it’s grown in the last quarter and is outpacing forecasts

see: www2.deloitte.com/us/en/insights/economy/us-economic-forecast/united-states-outlook-analysis.html

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