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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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YankSplaining · 02/08/2024 21:09

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 20:58

Well if you voted for Trump you certainly wouldn't need to worry about voting again. He's got a plan to take care of that.

I don’t believe that, and you know why? Because both Democrats and Republicans have said something similar about nearly every president during my adult life.

Most of the 2000s: “George W. Bush is going to turn the US into a Christofacist theocracy!” Didn’t happen.

2011: “Barack Obama is a going to manufacture a national crisis and use it as an excuse to cancel elections!” Didn’t happen.

2016-2020: “Donald Trump is going to make himself a dictator and eliminate democracy!” Didn’t happen.

The only reason we didn’t get a similar conspiracy theory about Biden is that no one believed he was mentally able to pull it off.

24 years of crying wolf, and I’m over it.

newtomoney · 02/08/2024 21:07

Mac*DonaldandHobNobs
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No the world did not survive an orange presidency... are you as insane as him ?

hellesbells · 02/08/2024 21:06

Molly70 · 02/08/2024 19:07

Well, the US economy is currently tanking so unless she and Biden can turn it around before November then she is probably toast.

No it isn't where are your sources for that

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 21:06

JustTalkToThem · 02/08/2024 21:02

Tell me you're a straight white person without saying that - because a lot of people didn't survive the Trump presidency.

a lot of brown people didn’t survive the Obama presidency. Mainly because he bombed the shit out of them.

Don't remember the Donald doing that.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 21:05

As an aside, does anyone else think J.D Vance is really creepy? I mean have you really listened to some of the things he says.

I wonder what his wife really thinks about Trump calling immigrants scum and all the vile rhetoric around immigration from the MAGA camp. I believe she's second generation. But then so it's Alina Habba and let's face it, Melania is first generation, so the xenophobia really makes no sense at all.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 02/08/2024 21:04

No.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 21:03

Wouldn’t it make sense to let Trump just win? He can only serve one more term then you’re rid of him! It’s only another four years.

JustTalkToThem · 02/08/2024 21:02

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:57

If I was American I’d vote for Trump because he’s already been president so I know the world can survive a Trump presidency.

I’ve no idea if the world can survive a Harris presidency.

Tell me you're a straight white person without saying that - because a lot of people didn't survive the Trump presidency.

BIossomtoes · 02/08/2024 21:02

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:57

If I was American I’d vote for Trump because he’s already been president so I know the world can survive a Trump presidency.

I’ve no idea if the world can survive a Harris presidency.

I know which is more likely. There might not be a world left if Trump’s elected.

newtomoney · 02/08/2024 21:01

BlackForestCake · 02/08/2024 18:45

No –– she's a genocidal monster, no better than Trump.

You are a psychopath to believe that anyone can believe that Trump is even close to 'ok' .. he is a fucking embarrassment. Do you really want him representing YOUR COUNTRY ??

Who would you honestly be prouder of aS YOUR spokesperson ? An incompetent incomprehensible ancient fuckwit of an erudite sane YOUNG woman. ?

halava · 02/08/2024 21:01

The presidents to my mind are just figureheads. At least Harris is not orange and mad/bad.

The troops behind them run the show so it makes little difference if Harris is not to everyone's personal taste. She will definitely not be anything as embarrassing as Trump and maybe the US can regain some of its dignity. It's only four years anyway so I hope she wins. Just for the sigh of satisfaction to see her trump Trump.

Although TBH I'd say a Harris win will probably cause ructions and instability from those on Trump's side. They weren't scared to try a coup already.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 21:01

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 20:58

Well if you voted for Trump you certainly wouldn't need to worry about voting again. He's got a plan to take care of that.

What is it they say? “The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour”.

Trump is all talk. I imagine if he wins it’ll be the same as last time - quite boring really.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 20:58

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:57

If I was American I’d vote for Trump because he’s already been president so I know the world can survive a Trump presidency.

I’ve no idea if the world can survive a Harris presidency.

Well if you voted for Trump you certainly wouldn't need to worry about voting again. He's got a plan to take care of that.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:57

If I was American I’d vote for Trump because he’s already been president so I know the world can survive a Trump presidency.

I’ve no idea if the world can survive a Harris presidency.

YankSplaining · 02/08/2024 20:56

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 20:41

Why do you assume that just because someone doesn't care for Harris that they are pro Trump? It is more than possible to dislike both candidates.

Yeah, pollsters have even given it its own term - “double haters.”

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:54

It’s a bit like Diane Abbott in that it’s amazing to see a black woman in a position of power.

It’s just a shame that she’s a bit shit.

3CustardCreams · 02/08/2024 20:54

Heatherbell1978 · 02/08/2024 20:31

It's so very very misogynistic to assume that. She is qualified for the job. What qualifications does Trump have? Or because he's male, does it not matter?

She has achieved nothing during her time in office. Do you actually know anything about her? This is not about misogyny- it’s about competence. Of which she is not competent. KH thinks the US has a strong and enduring relationship with North Korea. Uh what? She said that. She frequently comes across as ill-prepared, uninformed and unintelligent. Her record as a prosecutor is poor- putting loads of people in prison for smoking weed- when she smoked weed herself in college. When at a press conference with the Polish president - KH was asked a detailed question about US policy/infrastructure plans regarding Ukrainian refugees. It was obvious KH didn’t even understand the question - she then looked to polish president to answer for her - then started laughing hysterically and finally said “A friend in need is a friend indeed.” Sorry VP what?? She has a wealth of advisors and speech writers and it’s obvious she hasn’t even bothered to be briefed on what the hell is going on. She has never been to the border and has made impact on immigration number whilst in office. Some people say oh she doesn’t need to go to the border - but I think yes you do. To see things on the ground and put it in context can give you a more robust grasp on the problem at hand and ways to address it. She frequently speaks in “word salads” and doesn’t say anything much of meaning. I am not a misogynist. I am
a woman - and I think it’s a shame we don’t have a better representative for women. There are so many intelligent and competent women out there who would represent us well - but KH is honestly thick as shit and she gives us women a bad name. Again, I am judging her solely on her merits and competence - not race/gender.

YankSplaining · 02/08/2024 20:52

Excited? No. I’m not excited about anyone in American politics, and as an American, I know how much she was disliked by most Democrats until Biden declined to run again. If she wins, this is not how I wanted to see the first female president be elected. I wanted the first female president to be someone I could respect.

Kamala Harris, like everyone else in the Biden administration, lied about his obvious cognitive decline and basically told people not to believe their lying eyes. “That footage is deceptively edited.” “It’s because he stutters.” “This video is engineered by Trump supporters and if you share it you’re spreading fake news.” Don’t trust her, don’t like her, not going to pretend she’s going to be a good president because she isn’t Trump. “Less bad” is not the same as good.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:51

user556453 · 02/08/2024 20:47

Does anyone else think it's odd that we so easily refer to her as Kamala but refer to men more formally (respectfully?) by their last names? In that very same sentence you called her by her first name and him by his last.

I'm a bit sensitised to this as Trump and his followers are deliberately mispronouncing her name as a show of disrespect.

I think it’s because she’s got an uncommon first name and a very common last name.

If it was the other way round and she was called Susan Aweyo I doubt we’d be referring to her as “Susan”.

Hillary got called Hillary to avoid confusion with Bill.

user556453 · 02/08/2024 20:47

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:42

If Kamala wants to win she will have to do what Obama did and put in the hours going round talking to rust belt factory workers and convincing them that she had their best interests at heart.

Does anyone else think it's odd that we so easily refer to her as Kamala but refer to men more formally (respectfully?) by their last names? In that very same sentence you called her by her first name and him by his last.

I'm a bit sensitised to this as Trump and his followers are deliberately mispronouncing her name as a show of disrespect.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:42

If Kamala wants to win she will have to do what Obama did and put in the hours going round talking to rust belt factory workers and convincing them that she had their best interests at heart.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 20:42

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:37

You do realise Hillary’s wooing of feted pop and film stars like Beyoncé and Jay-Z was part of the reason she lost in 2016.

She lost because she was a Clinton. That name is deeply unpopular and not trusted by a large part of the country.

Also the world has changed significantly since 2016 with the advent of Tik Tok and IG. These celebs have a far greater and wider reach than most politicians could dream of. Its about social media reach to the swing voters and next generations, not hanging out with luvvies.

Trump just doesn't have that reach or popular endorsement that say Taylor Swif tor Beyoncé has.

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 20:41

Heatherbell1978 · 02/08/2024 20:29

I always assumed Trump supporters were pretty much limited to the US but it's been eye-opening seeing them on this thread. It doesn't take much common sense to conclude that anyone who is sane and not a convicted criminal would do a better job than Trump.

Why do you assume that just because someone doesn't care for Harris that they are pro Trump? It is more than possible to dislike both candidates.

Dweetfidilove · 02/08/2024 20:39

Getonwitit · 02/08/2024 20:04

It is a sad state of affairs when you have to worry about what singers or actors are backing the would be president of the US of A

She's also been endorsed by politicians from both parties

Black Women for Kamala
Black Men for Kamala
White Women for Kamala
White Men for Kamala
More expected to follow...

Regular voters are chipping in too, so all is as it should be.

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:37

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 02/08/2024 18:59

She's now leading in the national polls. She has raised more than double the amount Trump has in donations in one month. The upswell in support is very impressive.

Supporting her she has:

Beyoncé
George Clooney
Taylor Swift
Oprah
Obamas

Trump has

Hulk Hogan
Kid Rock
Alina Habba
34 felony convictions

I'd say she's stands a very good chance

You do realise Hillary’s wooing of feted pop and film stars like Beyoncé and Jay-Z was part of the reason she lost in 2016.

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