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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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nietzscheanvibe · 03/08/2024 07:12

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 21:54

The question wasn't about Trump, was it? Enough with the "but what about Trump?!" comeback any time another candidate or potential candidate is being discussed. It is so fucking tedious. The question was about Harris, as was my answer.

😂Dont be so deliberately fucking obtuse (or just plain fucking stupid?)! It's fucking implicit, given that it's a binary fucking choice between two fucking candidates, it's a perfectly valid fucking point to make. If you would prefer Trump, at least fucking own it! 🙄

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 03/08/2024 07:09

Just seen some great news regarding the Jan 6 riots.

Because of the Supreme Court presidential immunity ruling, Judge Chutkin is now required to consider the Jan 6 evidence to determine what were presidential acts and what weren't. Which means she should announce early next week evidentiary hearings in the next weeks/months (before election) in which Jack Smith and the DoJ can publicly present all of their evidence on what Donald Trump's role was in the Capitol riots. Most of it has been unseen until now. There's apparently some real bombshells in the evidence from Trump's own inner circle.

So essentially it's a public mini trial to determine what charges will be brought against Trump.

This is great news for the American people who can really evaluate their Republican candidate and what he is really capable of doing when he doesn't want to relinquish power.

hattie43 · 03/08/2024 07:04

I don't know much about her but from the snippets I've seen she doesn't seem a good orator and wouldn't get me excited .
M incredulous a country the size of the USA can't find stronger candidates.

Aussieland · 03/08/2024 05:48

3CustardCreams · 02/08/2024 21:47

I don’t think you can prove that all deaths were caused by the riots. For example some cause of deaths being myocardial infarction (heart attack). They were likely unrelated. Stress is not a big risk factor for MI.

Stress of a group of rioters trying to overthrow the government where you feel the weight of the world and democracy on your shoulders, without the president saying a word to help protect you. Not really entirely unrelated possibly

Aussieland · 03/08/2024 05:46

Justcallmebebes · 02/08/2024 22:39

Yes, look into why she climbed the ladder. Far more of who she knew and slept with rather than what she knew

Wow. This is absolute misogynistic disgusting crap and you should be ashamed of yourself. You do know that what Trump and Vance say isn’t gospel truth right? No wonder they are even in the race when people will believe anything they and their mouthpieces say.

Aussieland · 03/08/2024 05:43

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 22:11

It’s happened under his watch therefore he has to take a certain amount of responsibility for it. Presumably he could have done something to stop it happening.

In the last couple of weeks while trying to deal with the transition of power and make policy plans he should have entirely turned around the far right in the UK? Sure. People don’t just suddenly decide not to be racist thugs because there is a new government.

on the other hand a Trump presidency would bring them all out and legitimise them in the USA which may seep across and is not good

Aussieland · 03/08/2024 05:36

FayeGreener · 02/08/2024 20:57

If I was American I’d vote for Trump because he’s already been president so I know the world can survive a Trump presidency.

I’ve no idea if the world can survive a Harris presidency.

Then I am very glad you aren’t. There are enough people making choices in this way which makes zero sense

twodowntwotogo · 03/08/2024 05:35

Valeriekat · 03/08/2024 03:00

Given how awful she has been as veep, no!
Have you not paid attention during the last 4 years?

I have. Have you not been paying attention to Trump over the past 8 years?

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poetryandwine · 03/08/2024 04:34

@Molly70 It pains me to say it when considering Trump, but there is a long, sporadic history of US presidents occasionally terminating treaties. It hasn’t caused much controversy.

It takes a 2/3 vote in the Senate to enact a treaty

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 04:18

WildLemur · 03/08/2024 04:15

But the President could certainly decide whether or not to come to the aide of a European "ally", and Trump said he never would.

Again, if you're an American and think isolatitionism is the way forward I guess that's your prerogative, it just doesn't make any real sense for Europeans to want anything other than a Harris win.

Well NATO is by it’s inception

  • an attack on one is an attack on all.
TooBigForMyBoots · 03/08/2024 04:17

BlackForestCake · 02/08/2024 18:45

No –– she's a genocidal monster, no better than Trump.

Is she a convicted fraudster?
Is she a repeat sexual assailant?
Has she ever tried to subvert democracy by asking officials to "find" votes for her?
Has she ever tried to subvert democracy by launching a violent mob on the White House when a vote hasn't gone her way?

No? That makes her better than Trump.

WildLemur · 03/08/2024 04:15

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 02:57

It’s a moot point now anyway as he can’t unilaterally decide to leave NATO. He will need a 2/3 majority in the senate to enact that.

But the President could certainly decide whether or not to come to the aide of a European "ally", and Trump said he never would.

Again, if you're an American and think isolatitionism is the way forward I guess that's your prerogative, it just doesn't make any real sense for Europeans to want anything other than a Harris win.

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 04:11

BettyBardMacDonald · 03/08/2024 03:51

Specific examples?

Well, she was appointed by Biden to tackle the border crisis. She never went to the
boarder and then when asked if she had been to the boarder she said “no, I haven’t been to Europe either. I don’t understand the point you’re making” Just bizarre behavior from a senior politician

BettyBardMacDonald · 03/08/2024 03:51

Valeriekat · 03/08/2024 03:00

Given how awful she has been as veep, no!
Have you not paid attention during the last 4 years?

Specific examples?

poetryandwine · 03/08/2024 03:09

Valeriekat · 03/08/2024 03:00

Given how awful she has been as veep, no!
Have you not paid attention during the last 4 years?

Evidence please

Valeriekat · 03/08/2024 03:00

Given how awful she has been as veep, no!
Have you not paid attention during the last 4 years?

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 02:57

WildLemur · 03/08/2024 02:40

You're adding that - he didn't.

It’s a moot point now anyway as he can’t unilaterally decide to leave NATO. He will need a 2/3 majority in the senate to enact that.

WildLemur · 03/08/2024 02:40

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 01:13

If the other nations don’t fulfill their contractual requirements to NATO

You're adding that - he didn't.

ll09sm · 03/08/2024 02:35

This thread is so embarrassing

EconomyClassRockstar · 03/08/2024 01:47

All I know, as someone who lives in the US and can actually vote in this election, is that there was a very silent majority who didn't vote for Trump in 2020. Those people are still there but getting flogged with gas prices and high grocery bills and high house prices, just like the UK. My hope is that Kamala chooses the right VP running mate and those people stick to their 2020 guns. And Gen Z, the first generation to have school shootings as an actual worry in their minds on a daily basis, get out and vote also. And then, I'll be good with whatever happens.

Fedupmeds · 03/08/2024 01:45

poetryandwine · 03/08/2024 01:25

This is repulsive. For one thing, KH has been married to a lawyer in private practice, not involved in politics, for quite a while. To quote the meme on DJT, this is just plain weird

Absolutely agree , repulsive and vitriol to be expected, they are like school children. Behaviour is appalling and hostile.

BeachParty · 03/08/2024 01:43

CrunchyCarrot · 02/08/2024 19:10

There's also the Christian vote to consider, I was listening to a podcast today where a young Christian woman (American) said Kamala mustn't win and went on about her childlessness. It was dreadful. Apparently it's because Trump is anti-abortion and that's the main reason why many Christians there are supporting him.

That's interesting, I'm trying to get my head round why people would vote for Trump and that makes sense.
I think I'm getting more liberal in my old age, I can see that stance taking root more with me when I was younger.
I was brought up Christian, with values of no kids before marriage for example.
I'd have been more "don't agree with abortion" back then, just don't have any kids, use protection!
Now older I realise that it's not always that easy for a myriad of reasons.
I think he has no clue, and also discriminates/alienates people.
Would much rather someone more tolerant of others "different" to themselves was in charge.

BeachParty · 03/08/2024 01:31

Aquamarine1029 · 02/08/2024 18:53

Absolutely not. She's horrendous.

Why?
Genuine question
She seems fine to me.

BeachParty · 03/08/2024 01:31

BlackForestCake · 02/08/2024 18:45

No –– she's a genocidal monster, no better than Trump.

How?

poetryandwine · 03/08/2024 01:29

ashitghost · 02/08/2024 22:33

No, she’s a fucking idiot.

Evidence, please.

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