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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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PermanentTemporary · 23/08/2024 23:01

Yes I'm excited that the Democrats have swung behind her. I think she'll make a perfectly good President. I don't know what will get her over the edge but it certainly seems a much more strategic campaign than say Hillary Clinton ran.

I hope the orange seditionist will remain sentient long enough to watch himself lose again. I do understand that a remarkable number of people vote for him. Clearly they think he is the right person for them, fuck knows why. I hope he gets an even smaller minority of votes this time, as well as actually losing the Electoral College.

AntsMarching · 23/08/2024 22:58

I haven't watched her interviews, but I watched her in senate hearings over the years and I found her to be researched, thoughtful, and willing to press the interviewee (in a congressional hearing), with facts, when necessary. I appreciate that level of preparedness and professionalism and she has a long history in public service.

Also, I don't mind her smile. I think she'd be derided if she didn't smile enough as well. I'll take a happy facade, so long as the wearer is working hard behind the mask.

Will she work for the people, her long history in public service would suggest so. I haven't reviewed her voting history to be entirely sure, but based against her opponent, I'm confident she'll work for the people more than he would.

I'll be voting for her (I'm American, so do have a vote in the matter).

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 22:47

Followyouinto · 23/08/2024 20:59

I don’t like her and find it disappointing that she might be the first female US president. I find her insipid and unintelligent in her speeches. I had the misfortune of listening to an interview where she rambled on about hypotheses with the kind of understanding I’d expect a 12 year old to have. I find her constant laughing during interviews jarring and unprofessional. She doesn’t instil me with any kind of confidence that she would be a good and inspiring leader. I don’t envy Americans their choice between her and Trump.

You have put that very well. She doesn't give interviews Becaise she is hopeless at them. All she can do is appear with lots of razzmatazz and balloons in front of fawning cheering celebs, totally pathetic amd cringeworthy,

prettybird · 23/08/2024 22:22

As I said earlier, there is no point engaging! Hmm

You can't argue with stupid Confused

Save your energy for the undecideds and those who are prepared to have evidenced arguments and discussions Smile

Maggiethecat · 23/08/2024 22:10

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 18:40

I just think Kamala Harris is just totally unsuitable for a prominent position on the world stage. I think Trump would be the better choice. It's a pity the Democrats couldn't find somebody more suitable. Difficult to say who will win. It doesn't impress me all this wheeling out of Celebs. Its a bit desperate.

“totally unsuitable for a prominent position on the world stage”……
“I think Trump would be the better choice”

This has got to be a wind up!

WildLemur · 23/08/2024 21:56

I can understand that someone might find her "insipid and unintelligent in her speeches" - I don't see it at all (certainly not unintelligent) but of course its a subjective thing.

But surely anyone would have to agree that she is leagues ahead of Trump in intelligent/coherent speech giving?

Babamamananarama · 23/08/2024 21:37

I wasn't sure what I made of her (probably because I'm deeply cynical of American politics) but I've read her autobiography recently and am now genuinely very excited that a woman with her perspective on the world could feasibly be President.

I think she has genuine, considerable, lived experience of understanding and fighting very hard to affect some of the deep rooted and fundamental problems affecting the US, particularly in relation to women and girls, people of colour, those affected by poverty and violence but also victims of corporate greed and those affected by inequality.

I imagine she has to play a somewhat more moderate position in her current role but I do think it's pretty radical that a woman with her perspective is in the running.

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 21:36

I'm basing it on what I've heard, what I've read, her history as a Prosecutor and more.... comparing it to a man famous for 6 bankruptcies, a convicted felon with two impeachments as a failed Presidency and being a laughing stock in the world, and a stint on a reality show.

Do point out her lack of principles and I will research and look into it. Quite happy to do that.

Followyouinto · 23/08/2024 21:26

@BustingBaoBun what makes you think Kamala is a person of principles? What are you basing that on?

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 21:11

Followyouinto · 23/08/2024 20:59

I don’t like her and find it disappointing that she might be the first female US president. I find her insipid and unintelligent in her speeches. I had the misfortune of listening to an interview where she rambled on about hypotheses with the kind of understanding I’d expect a 12 year old to have. I find her constant laughing during interviews jarring and unprofessional. She doesn’t instil me with any kind of confidence that she would be a good and inspiring leader. I don’t envy Americans their choice between her and Trump.

Shouldn't you be looking at the bigger picture? The binary choice? What you would end up with, with Trump as POTUS?

I don't mind her being insipid. It reminds me of Johnson v Starmer. He was 'insipid' for choice of a better word compared to BJ with his bluster and soundbites. Very similar comparison
But he Starmer (as KH) is a person of principles. That's what matters. To me anyway.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 21:11

We need to have a Mumsnet online party when Kamala Harris wins in November. It will be a historic moment.

Putting the virtual champagne on ice 😎 🍾 🎉

Think the world will breath a sigh of relief!

Followyouinto · 23/08/2024 20:59

I don’t like her and find it disappointing that she might be the first female US president. I find her insipid and unintelligent in her speeches. I had the misfortune of listening to an interview where she rambled on about hypotheses with the kind of understanding I’d expect a 12 year old to have. I find her constant laughing during interviews jarring and unprofessional. She doesn’t instil me with any kind of confidence that she would be a good and inspiring leader. I don’t envy Americans their choice between her and Trump.

MacDonaldandHobNobs · 23/08/2024 20:51

Viviennemary is indicative of the MAGA supporters, who Trump said wouldn't care if he shot someone dead in broad daylight in NY. They would support him anyway. Despite the fact that Trump is a laughing stock on the world stage, they still think he's a respected figure. Even Putin utterly humiliated him repeatedly and has no respect for him, its pathetic. There is a disconnect with reality.

The plain truth is judging a highly educated professional woman on her smile is deeply misogynistic. It's that ingrained internalised misogyny that perpetuates the pulling down of other women who strive to go further and push higher. The Asian American woman who steps outside her place by not being pleasing enough on a superficial level. It's exactly the sort of discrimination that will make this election historic. That attitude is of the past and belongs there. The younger voters no longer think this way and are pushing to go forward not backwards.

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 20:12

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 19:11

Lol at poised. She is a total fake.

Lol at fake. Can you be specific?

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poetryandwine · 23/08/2024 20:12

Hi,@Viviennemary

The problem I have and I think others may be having with your posts is that in essence they say ‘the problem I have with Kamala Harris is that I don’t like her.’

If you could provide some rational reasons why I would still disagree , but I might respect you

twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 20:11

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 17:50

No more than anyone else. The UK included. But her bizarre behaviour hasn't gone unnoticed.

What bizarre behaviour is that? Can you be more specific?

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twodowntwotogo · 23/08/2024 20:10

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 17:38

She has been roundly criticised on Australian TV. No policies. Just grinning and razzmatazz. Not good.

'She has been roundly criticised'
Again complete vagueness and second hand impressions.

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BIossomtoes · 23/08/2024 20:03

prettybird · 23/08/2024 20:00

On the app, so can't edit: I think there is nothing useful to be gained by engaging Hmm

I agree. Beyond redemption.

prettybird · 23/08/2024 20:00

On the app, so can't edit: I think there is nothing useful to be gained by engaging Hmm

prettybird · 23/08/2024 19:59

I think there is nothing useful to gained by engaging Hmm

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 19:11

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/08/2024 18:54

A poised, eloquent, upbeat accomplished attorney, prosecuting attorney, US senator from California and four-year vice president of the US is unsuitable for the world stage? Compared to what?

That demented, criminal, lying, narcissistic old felon?

Unbelievable.

Lol at poised. She is a total fake.

WildLemur · 23/08/2024 19:04

On the topic of Jan 6, I see Trump is holding an Awards ceremony for the rioters.

Can't wait to see who takes home the coverted award for stamping on the most police officer's heads. 🙄

WildLemur · 23/08/2024 18:59

I don't see how anyone could think a former president who incited an attack on the nation's capital - by purposefully and deliberately spreading falsehoods in an effort to cling to power - is even vaguely appropriate to hold that office again.

And with Trump, that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Were he anyone other than a former president, he'd already be in prison for his crimes, with a lengthy sentence.

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/08/2024 18:54

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 18:40

I just think Kamala Harris is just totally unsuitable for a prominent position on the world stage. I think Trump would be the better choice. It's a pity the Democrats couldn't find somebody more suitable. Difficult to say who will win. It doesn't impress me all this wheeling out of Celebs. Its a bit desperate.

A poised, eloquent, upbeat accomplished attorney, prosecuting attorney, US senator from California and four-year vice president of the US is unsuitable for the world stage? Compared to what?

That demented, criminal, lying, narcissistic old felon?

Unbelievable.

BustingBaoBun · 23/08/2024 18:45

Viviennemary · 23/08/2024 18:40

I just think Kamala Harris is just totally unsuitable for a prominent position on the world stage. I think Trump would be the better choice. It's a pity the Democrats couldn't find somebody more suitable. Difficult to say who will win. It doesn't impress me all this wheeling out of Celebs. Its a bit desperate.

Oh my! It's a pity the Republican party couldn't find anyone more suitable, don't you think?

I thank you for confirming you are OK with Trump though, that takes some courage 🫨
I am laughing at 'Trump on the world stage' though. I remember last time.

Didn't Trump wheel out some celebs? I saw some but didn't know them.
Mind you, so many won't and are sending out cease and desist letters for the music choices so I imagine the pickings are a bit scarce

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