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Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?

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twodowntwotogo · 02/08/2024 18:39

Just to get it out of the way - I am completely against Trump being elected President. I'm pretty excited to see Kamala being officially nominated, and looking forward to her fighting a strong campaign - albeit slightly nervously. Anyone else?

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Fedupmeds · 05/08/2024 23:01

Sorry but I am laughing so much missed the key pad

Fedupmeds · 05/08/2024 23:00

Molly70 · 05/08/2024 22:57

Smart?? Google ‘Kamala explains the cloud storage ‘ 😂

Lije c to hear Trump explain it😂😂

Fedupmeds · 05/08/2024 22:58

Here we go

Molly70 · 05/08/2024 22:57

Fedupmeds · 05/08/2024 22:45

Younger smarter professional that is K.H D.T should retire gracefully as his brain does not always engage with his mouth , he spouts verbal diarrhoea .even his nephew has written a book and he does not mince his words quite enlightening, maybe his followers should have a read ,

Smart?? Google ‘Kamala explains the cloud storage ‘ 😂

user556453 · 05/08/2024 22:52

Aussieland · 05/08/2024 20:31

That doesn’t mean it is safe or in any way effective for Covid in an unselected population. Hence why non medical people in the public eye should not make stupid statements like this.

Yes, exactly. Extensively safety tested for prescription by a qualified physician in an understood dosage to a suitable patient.

July 1, 2020 Update: A summary of the FDA review of safety issues with the use of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat hospitalized patients with COVID-19 is now available. This includes reports of serious heart rhythm problems and other safety issues, including blood and lymph system disorders, kidney injuries, and liver problems and failure.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/nda/2020/OSE%20Review_Hydroxychloroquine-Cholorquine%20-%2019May2020_Redacted.pdf

Fedupmeds · 05/08/2024 22:45

Younger smarter professional that is K.H D.T should retire gracefully as his brain does not always engage with his mouth , he spouts verbal diarrhoea .even his nephew has written a book and he does not mince his words quite enlightening, maybe his followers should have a read ,

Aussieland · 05/08/2024 20:31

3CustardCreams · 05/08/2024 20:15

Hydroxychloroquine is a well known drug used in other conditions like rheumatoid arthritis. It has been extensively safety tested.

That doesn’t mean it is safe or in any way effective for Covid in an unselected population. Hence why non medical people in the public eye should not make stupid statements like this.

3CustardCreams · 05/08/2024 20:15

user556453 · 05/08/2024 15:08

He did, however, repeatedly tout hydroxychloroquine, which has now been linked to an 11% increase in mortality. Alongside his eleventybillion other lies over the past eight years. Not to mention the birtherism as far back as 2011, or the Central Park Five thing in 1989, or the failed businesses, the sexual assault judgment, the tax fraud, the weird foreign money things, etc etc etc.

Over the moon with excitement with Harris or not, it's a binary choice.

Hydroxychloroquine is a well known drug used in other conditions like rheumatoid arthritis. It has been extensively safety tested.

user556453 · 05/08/2024 15:08

TickTockTickTok · 05/08/2024 10:38

You are repeating misinformation about the stats again. Perhaps you missed this post where I explained that to you earlier, stats available from official sources …

Oh dear you are deep into the kool-aid

once again READ MY LIPS - or better still next time you “watch it” press the unmute button so you can listen to the evidence in the video, rather than your dog whistle response repeating fake news

  1. TRUMP NEVER ADVISED PEOPLE TO INJECT THEMSELVES WITH BLEACH - totally made up.
  2. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED DRINKING AT ALL LET ALONE BLEACH
  3. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED BLEACH AT ALL - totally made up

muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into.

something like that is not that
he was not making recommendations to the public how to cure themselves
He was making suggestions for further research to the scientists based on what they had just reported. Of course as President he should be careful what he says, especially if already aware that there are a load of lying reporters ready to make things up, that (as here) vulnerable people reading newspapers are willing to believe.

Also you say
”Apparently, people died who did this.
Disinfectant poisonings were up 121%as a result in that month.”

Ah lies, damn lies and statistics - I think that was the name of the book

Who are these people who apparently did this and died.
Not finding any concrete proof of this with a causative link
surely you would not make this up without evidence

Really up 121% as a result in that month - surely more fake news

Do you want to explain why, or should I.

Do you want to provide the proof of a causative link
Or should I explain why your absolute statement does not hold water

clue perhaps …
you could consider when this happened (April 23rd 20) right at the height of COVID beginning to spread like wildfire in the West.
(You remember after WHO backed Chinas falsehoods, and said it was not necessary to stop flights)
That is 1 week from the end of the month for the stats you quote
people were terrified and stock piling disinfectant it was everywhere
most of the cases were from inhaling from spraying everything that moved
ingesting cases largely being children accidentally drinking it because it was out

Most importantly and unsurprisingly the numbers had already started increasing exponentially for the last few months (all stated as % increase over the same months in 2019), and actually by April (which as explained only had a week left after he made his comments), the rate of increase month on month was already slowing (biggest increase had been between February and March). Falling considerably further in May, just 1 week after his comments

Which actually all suggests the reverse of what you are stating.

At the end of the day stats are just numbers, if they are not given context. Of course disinfectant poisonings would be up at the start of the pandemic compared with the previous year. It was being sprayed all over and constantly used so people were inhaling it and kids could get it more easily. But the rate of increase was already dropping dramatically when Trump made his comment, and continued to drop even further in the weeks after his comments.

He did, however, repeatedly tout hydroxychloroquine, which has now been linked to an 11% increase in mortality. Alongside his eleventybillion other lies over the past eight years. Not to mention the birtherism as far back as 2011, or the Central Park Five thing in 1989, or the failed businesses, the sexual assault judgment, the tax fraud, the weird foreign money things, etc etc etc.

Over the moon with excitement with Harris or not, it's a binary choice.

TickTockTickTok · 05/08/2024 10:38

BustingBaoBun · 03/08/2024 23:30

TBH whoever is as stupid as that would not stand a chance in the real world anyway

So people who are not super intelligent shouldn't listen to their president.

OK got you

I'll repeat again..
Apparently, people died who did this. Disinfectant poisonings were up 121% as a result in that month.

Fact. Many different sources say this.

Who are these people who apparently did this and died.

Go and look
There are reports out there of people who said that they tried this as a result of what trump said.

Back him all you like. It's laughable

You are repeating misinformation about the stats again. Perhaps you missed this post where I explained that to you earlier, stats available from official sources …

Oh dear you are deep into the kool-aid

once again READ MY LIPS - or better still next time you “watch it” press the unmute button so you can listen to the evidence in the video, rather than your dog whistle response repeating fake news

  1. TRUMP NEVER ADVISED PEOPLE TO INJECT THEMSELVES WITH BLEACH - totally made up.
  2. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED DRINKING AT ALL LET ALONE BLEACH
  3. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED BLEACH AT ALL - totally made up

muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into.

something like that is not that
he was not making recommendations to the public how to cure themselves
He was making suggestions for further research to the scientists based on what they had just reported. Of course as President he should be careful what he says, especially if already aware that there are a load of lying reporters ready to make things up, that (as here) vulnerable people reading newspapers are willing to believe.

Also you say
”Apparently, people died who did this.
Disinfectant poisonings were up 121%as a result in that month.”

Ah lies, damn lies and statistics - I think that was the name of the book

Who are these people who apparently did this and died.
Not finding any concrete proof of this with a causative link
surely you would not make this up without evidence

Really up 121% as a result in that month - surely more fake news

Do you want to explain why, or should I.

Do you want to provide the proof of a causative link
Or should I explain why your absolute statement does not hold water

clue perhaps …
you could consider when this happened (April 23rd 20) right at the height of COVID beginning to spread like wildfire in the West.
(You remember after WHO backed Chinas falsehoods, and said it was not necessary to stop flights)
That is 1 week from the end of the month for the stats you quote
people were terrified and stock piling disinfectant it was everywhere
most of the cases were from inhaling from spraying everything that moved
ingesting cases largely being children accidentally drinking it because it was out

Most importantly and unsurprisingly the numbers had already started increasing exponentially for the last few months (all stated as % increase over the same months in 2019), and actually by April (which as explained only had a week left after he made his comments), the rate of increase month on month was already slowing (biggest increase had been between February and March). Falling considerably further in May, just 1 week after his comments

Which actually all suggests the reverse of what you are stating.

At the end of the day stats are just numbers, if they are not given context. Of course disinfectant poisonings would be up at the start of the pandemic compared with the previous year. It was being sprayed all over and constantly used so people were inhaling it and kids could get it more easily. But the rate of increase was already dropping dramatically when Trump made his comment, and continued to drop even further in the weeks after his comments.

TickTockTickTok · 05/08/2024 10:31

missmousemouth · 04/08/2024 08:48

Then he addresses how disinfectant can so easily kill it, and muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into (by the scientists he was addressing)

Christ. This is an incredible demonstration of the mental gymnastics people have to undergo to convince themselves Trump isn't a complete and utter fucking moron. Terrifying. As Angelou says: when a man shows you who he is, believe him.

If people have to use lies to prove something then it has the actual reverse effect than supporting their case. It speaks of their case being so weak that they need to use lies to try and prove their point. As I said before if Trump is so bad use the truth (you presumably have lots of it) and compelling honest argument.

Pure hatred invoked lies is not a good look or persuasive argument. If anything is ‘terrifying’, it is that the mob that think it is ok to lie about someone because their group think, hates and abuses that person.

It is not mental gymnastics it is the actual words he spoke as opposed to the lies in the papers and on here. I am not trying to convince myself of anything. But perhaps you are if you need to support lies about what the man said and the context in which he said it. Is there anything factually inaccurate in my post? The video is there and the wider context video readily available.

It is a sad world when someone telling the truth is attacked for it. But if you want to promote fake news, I cannot stop you.

No comment about the poster still dishonestly presenting as fact a massive jump in disinfectant poisoning was a result of Trumps comments. Even though
the stats were compared with the same months in 2019 (no known COVID)
to the early months in 2020 (deadly pandemic spreading like wildfire)

When the truth is the spike in the stats was already growing exponentially from January, the largest growth was in March, and by April the growth had already declined significantly, and by May (just one week after Trumps comments) the figures were massively falling.

with the numbers on Trumps side should we say he prevented poisoning, or should we tell the truth and say with a deadly pandemic spreading like wildfire and with global advice about disinfecting, it is not hard to understand the correlation between that and massive increase in demand for and use of disinfectant and the correlation between that and poisoning cases rising.

which were typically inhalation by obsessive cleaning and accidental consumption by young children from it being left out.

I explained all that to the poster (stats available from official sources) but the poster still repeats posting the lies. What is your view on that?

No comment about the renowned Pasteur institute on the back of an initial limited study publicly reporting that smokers were 80% less likely to catch COVID?

Do you support lies to discredit people you hate like Trump. You certainly seem to be doing your best to discredit me for simply reporting the easily confirmed truth.

twodowntwotogo · 04/08/2024 14:30

The Harris team are also working with Republicans which is very interesting. My OP was focussed on Harris, but ofc in a binary race, that also involves Trump. Coruscating statement from Republican ex-governor of Georgia Brian Kemp after Trump's speech in Atlanta when he criticised him for declining to overturn the 2020 election results in the state ()

Now that she's the official nominee, is anyone else excited about Kamala Harris's chances?
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twodowntwotogo · 04/08/2024 12:53

Molly70 · 03/08/2024 15:45

I think you focus a bit too much on their personal characteristics and who is the better/ nicer person. For voters, it is often just a case of whether they and their families felt better off (in terms of finances and safety) under the Trump administration or the Biden/Harris administration and for many people they felt better off under the Trump administration. They are not voting for who they want to go and have a beer with.

It's certainly also who is a good figurehead and who inspires trust.
If personal characteristics don't come into it, then why are all the pro-Trump people on here trying to castigate Harris in terms of her laugh, her speaking voice, who she might have slept with?

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missmousemouth · 04/08/2024 08:48

Then he addresses how disinfectant can so easily kill it, and muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into (by the scientists he was addressing)

Christ. This is an incredible demonstration of the mental gymnastics people have to undergo to convince themselves Trump isn't a complete and utter fucking moron. Terrifying. As Angelou says: when a man shows you who he is, believe him.

missmousemouth · 04/08/2024 08:40

@FayeGreener

She’s got to her position of power. She doesn’t need to fuck old men anymore.

What a vile misogynistic thing to say.

SpuytenDuyvil · 04/08/2024 05:14

Don, Eric, Ivanka--that's the real DEI.

WildLemur · 04/08/2024 04:58

This DEI hire stuff is so ridiculous when you consider she's up against a man who inherited a real estate empire, has an extremely mixed business record, had never held a proper job in his life and, even as president, spend most of his time on the golf course.

Harris is many, many magnitudes more qualified than Trump.

BustingBaoBun · 03/08/2024 23:30

TBH whoever is as stupid as that would not stand a chance in the real world anyway

So people who are not super intelligent shouldn't listen to their president.

OK got you

I'll repeat again..
Apparently, people died who did this. Disinfectant poisonings were up 121% as a result in that month.

Fact. Many different sources say this.

Who are these people who apparently did this and died.

Go and look
There are reports out there of people who said that they tried this as a result of what trump said.

Back him all you like. It's laughable

user556453 · 03/08/2024 23:25

TempestTost · 03/08/2024 23:07

There was also that thing with Obama not specifically promoting her but don’t know if that has changed.

I think Obama was looking to have a different candidate than Harris. He has endorsed her now, not much choice I guess really.

I believe Obama was instrumental behind the scenes in convincing Biden to step aside, so wanted some time to elapse before endorsing so it didn't appear he had elbowed Biden out in her favour. He and Michelle paid tribute to the Biden's, waited a week or so and then publicly endorsed Harris, which is the right way to have done it.

If Barack Obama had truly wanted a different candidate, I'm pretty sure there would be a different candidate.

TempestTost · 03/08/2024 23:07

There was also that thing with Obama not specifically promoting her but don’t know if that has changed.

I think Obama was looking to have a different candidate than Harris. He has endorsed her now, not much choice I guess really.

SpuytenDuyvil · 03/08/2024 21:09

She has been successful in garnering the support of all the major Democrats who she would hope for.

TickTockTickTok · 03/08/2024 20:46

SpuytenDuyvil · 03/08/2024 19:48

Yes, next in line to the presidency in the case of the president no longer being able to serve. But, as you can see with Trump's choice this round, he did NOT select his previous VP. Someone could challenge Harris for the Democratic nomination; it's not a gimme.

Ah that is interesting, thank you.

Sorry I should have said the person running for president chooses their running mate, not vice president (of course they will not be vice president unless their team are voted in).

I did understand that the vice automatically takes over if anything happens to the president, presumably no matter how soon that were to occur. Hopefully unlikely (but given what happened to Trump who knows). what would happen if the presidential candidate for one of the parties died the night before the election, given presumably the ballot paper would be asking you to vote for them as a team, but that team no longer exists for you to vote for.

and presumably then when you vote in the US, each option lists the party and both the presidential and vice presidential candidates.

So currently Trump will deffo be the candidate for his party, but Kamala not yet confirmed. There seems to be a lot of momentum around her now (so I just naively assumed she had been). There was also that thing with Obama not specifically promoting her but don’t know if that has changed.

sorry for all the questions but it’s nice to learn.

TickTockTickTok · 03/08/2024 20:11

BustingBaoBun · 03/08/2024 17:26

Then he addresses how disinfectant can so easily kill it, and muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into

I mean... come on! I watched it and even Dr. Birx (with the scarf) did not know where to put herself. Who, in the name of all that is holy, would even begin to think you can drink or inject bleach?!

Trump did!

Apparently, people died who did this. Disinfectant poisonings were up 121% as a result in that month.

Oh dear you are deep into the kool-aid

once again READ MY LIPS - or better still next time you “watch it” press the unmute button so you can listen to the evidence in the video, rather than your dog whistle response repeating fake news

  1. TRUMP NEVER ADVISED PEOPLE TO INJECT THEMSELVES WITH BLEACH - totally made up.
  2. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED DRINKING AT ALL LET ALONE BLEACH
  3. TRUMP NEVER MENTIONED BLEACH AT ALL - totally made up

muses if SOMETHING LIKE THAT could be introduced into the body, possibly by injection to kill it, as something to be looked into.

something like that is not that
he was not making recommendations to the public how to cure themselves
He was making suggestions for further research to the scientists based on what they had just reported. Of course as President he should be careful what he says, especially if already aware that there are a load of lying reporters ready to make things up, that (as here) vulnerable people reading newspapers are willing to believe.

Also you say
”Apparently, people died who did this.
Disinfectant poisonings were up 121%as a result in that month.”

Ah lies, damn lies and statistics - I think that was the name of the book

Who are these people who apparently did this and died.
Not finding any concrete proof of this with a causative link
surely you would not make this up without evidence

Really up 121% as a result in that month - surely more fake news

Do you want to explain why, or should I.

Do you want to provide the proof of a causative link
Or should I explain why your absolute statement does not hold water

clue perhaps …
you could consider when this happened (April 23rd 20) right at the height of COVID beginning to spread like wildfire in the West.
(You remember after WHO backed Chinas falsehoods, and said it was not necessary to stop flights)
That is 1 week from the end of the month for the stats you quote
people were terrified and stock piling disinfectant it was everywhere
most of the cases were from inhaling from spraying everything that moved
ingesting cases largely being children accidentally drinking it because it was out

Most importantly and unsurprisingly the numbers had already started increasing exponentially for the last few months (all stated as % increase over the same months in 2019), and actually by April (which as explained only had a week left after he made his comments), the rate of increase month on month was already slowing (biggest increase had been between February and March). Falling considerably further in May, just 1 week after his comments

Which actually all suggests the reverse of what you are stating.

At the end of the day stats are just numbers, if they are not given context. Of course disinfectant poisonings would be up at the start of the pandemic compared with the previous year. It was being sprayed all over and constantly used so people were inhaling it and kids could get it more easily. But the rate of increase was already dropping dramatically when Trump made his comment, and continued to drop even further in the weeks after his comments.

user556453 · 03/08/2024 19:50

SpuytenDuyvil · 03/08/2024 19:48

Yes, next in line to the presidency in the case of the president no longer being able to serve. But, as you can see with Trump's choice this round, he did NOT select his previous VP. Someone could challenge Harris for the Democratic nomination; it's not a gimme.

I love this clip

Pete Buttigieg on JD Vance | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

The Honorable Pete Buttigieg gets real about Donald Trump's newly-minted running mate, JD Vance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XuIEg_Y4fM

SpuytenDuyvil · 03/08/2024 19:48

Yes, next in line to the presidency in the case of the president no longer being able to serve. But, as you can see with Trump's choice this round, he did NOT select his previous VP. Someone could challenge Harris for the Democratic nomination; it's not a gimme.

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