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Friend giving safety tips for London?

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breezeofqinter · 02/08/2024 16:24

Maybe I sound horrible but me and a friend are visiting our mutual friend in London tomorrow, she’s lived there for maybe a year.

Shes just text us to give us safety tips. I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve been to London, I even work from the London office occasionally.

I know she means well but aibu to find it a bit patronising?

OP posts:
dawngreen · 02/08/2024 18:43

Shxt happens every where its just that London is a large area, and a lot of tourists go there.

Heronwatcher · 02/08/2024 18:42

There’s London and there’s London. It depends on the advice. For example in my very naive part of SW London there is one park which is absolutely fine, one which is a known drug dealer haunt. There’s also an alley by the tube which is a cut through and looks fine but gets much narrower and darker where someone was mugged last year and which people outside the area may well use, but locals absolutely wouldn’t. People who come into London to the city/ soho would have no idea.

I also lived in France and ended up having to send something similar as 3/4 of my friends were pickpocketed almost instantly at the Gare Du Nord.

So if it’s useful local info, great, if it’s “the northern line is black” a bit misguided but probably coming from the right place.

RawBloomers · 02/08/2024 18:41

I can see why it feels a bit patronising. But it’s probably just an indicator of her own naivety when she moved there.

Unless she’s tedious and controlling in many other ways (in which case - why visit?) just let it inform your understanding of her and enjoy your time there.

KreedKafer · 02/08/2024 18:41

GreenPoppy · 02/08/2024 17:42

I live in London, the last couple of years I tell anyone visiting about phone snatchers, as it's not something you necessarily know about if you visit only occasionally.

It's rife in my area that you get our phone snatched while waiting to cross at lights, at a bus stop, or if you are sitting on an end seat on the tube.

This doesn’t only happen in London, though.

TheKoalaWhoCould · 02/08/2024 18:39

Surely beyond “STAND ON THE RIGHT, WALK ON THE LEFT” it’s the same as being in literally any other densely populated place?

LoneHydrangea · 02/08/2024 18:38

PullLikeaDog · 02/08/2024 18:36

Presumably similar to a Plastic Paddy?
You know the cod Irish person with Irish parents who has never actually lived in Ireland themselves. 😂

This perfectly describes several of my nephews who have Irish grandparents, have never set foot in Ireland and go all diddly-diddly at anything Irish.

oakleaffy · 02/08/2024 18:37

@VotesForWomen Re 📱 phones, it’s SO tempting to read them in public
I’m doing that right now.
The only safety advice I can think of is to not look at phone when wandering through streets or waiting at Stations or on Tube-
I need a new phone, and when I get one I won’t be reading it walking along.

Can’t think of any ways of keeping a nice phone safe, apart from keeping it hidden.

Even if “chained ‘
to you you could get injured by having it yanked away.

LoneHydrangea · 02/08/2024 18:37

Really patronising. You’re not some halfwit from East Bumblefuck who’s never left the village.

DarkDarkNight · 02/08/2024 18:36

I don’t think it’s bad to give a warning - it sounds worse than ever at the minute in big cities for mobile phone thefts and pickpocketing.

A friend warned me about Paris after she had her phone stolen. I was happy to get a warning to be on my guard.

PullLikeaDog · 02/08/2024 18:36

BloodyHellKenAgain · 02/08/2024 17:49

A plastic Londoner 😂
What the hell are you on about?

Presumably similar to a Plastic Paddy?
You know the cod Irish person with Irish parents who has never actually lived in Ireland themselves. 😂

Justawaterformeplease · 02/08/2024 18:36

LiterallyOnFire · 02/08/2024 17:34

Sounds like a plastic Londoner. The kind that make moving to London a part of their personality. Just smile and nod.

Yep, this!!! “I’m SO London!”

KreedKafer · 02/08/2024 18:35

Jeez, it’s London, not Mogadishu. I’m from London and I behave in exactly the same way there as I do everywhere else. As does everyone who lives there, unless they used to live somewhere else and haven’t yet realised that it’s a perfectly normal city.

FiveTreeHill · 02/08/2024 18:32

Of course it's incredibly patronising. I find people who've moved to London or lived in London like to give unsolicited London advise, commonly tube advise.

It's like just because dont live in London you could never have visited it or any big city. As if you hadn't considered pickpockets exist or can't navigate a train

dawngreen · 02/08/2024 18:31

I never keep a phone in my back pocket. I prefer to keep my cash, and phone in a bum bag. I don't use bags these days unless in a group. I saw a stream where a woman keeps a old phone so if it gets stolen in public it won't matter.

Howmanywishescanastargive · 02/08/2024 18:31

I'm very intrigued to know what the safety tips were that she was giving you.

VotesForWomen · 02/08/2024 18:26

GreenPoppy · 02/08/2024 17:42

I live in London, the last couple of years I tell anyone visiting about phone snatchers, as it's not something you necessarily know about if you visit only occasionally.

It's rife in my area that you get our phone snatched while waiting to cross at lights, at a bus stop, or if you are sitting on an end seat on the tube.

Is this when people have their phone out in their hand?

having my phone snatched would be absolutely terrible - somebody who could unlock it could access pretty much everything. I'm always up for safety tips!

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Hotsunights · 02/08/2024 18:24

HotCrossBunplease · 02/08/2024 18:24

And then you woke up…

Quite..

HotCrossBunplease · 02/08/2024 18:24

dawngreen · 02/08/2024 18:22

My fella, and I went on holiday to London. We visited all the tourist spots, and a day after leaving for home. All the area's we visited had being bombed even the toilets. So it put us off staying there in future to be honest. But we did visit another time, and my fella needed the loo so I stood waiting for him. I noticed a sign saying about a murder at the pub/restaurant . Then my fella told me he got told off because he never noticed the chalk on the floor in the men's.

And then you woke up…

oakleaffy · 02/08/2024 18:24

Sugarlily · 02/08/2024 18:18

I live here and can’t think of any safety tips I’d give specific to London that aren’t standard city street sense tips.

can anyone think of one?

Edited

No!
All Cities all over the world can be dodgy for muggings.

MrsDora · 02/08/2024 18:23

Adding to this I have my sensors out all the time when walking in London and generally, (uptight) and did not in the slightest take notice of these boys circling the area on bicycles in such a casual and unassuming way.

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 02/08/2024 18:23

Spinet · 02/08/2024 17:15

I dunno, did she specifically give advice about phone snatchers? Because that is quite new and becoming more common. Also people being grumpy fuckers in the heat needs a warning too if I'm honest.

The OP is being quite cagey about answering the question about what advice her friend gave but my mind immediately went to phone snatchers too!

Ive lived in London for ten years and remind people visiting me to be careful about having their phone out on the street bc of phone snatchers. We have a fb group for people living in our block and if our neighbours see it happen on the street where we live they normally post on Facebook just giving people a heads up that it’s happening. Maybe the friend is just being kind!

Hotsunights · 02/08/2024 18:23

dawngreen · 02/08/2024 18:22

My fella, and I went on holiday to London. We visited all the tourist spots, and a day after leaving for home. All the area's we visited had being bombed even the toilets. So it put us off staying there in future to be honest. But we did visit another time, and my fella needed the loo so I stood waiting for him. I noticed a sign saying about a murder at the pub/restaurant . Then my fella told me he got told off because he never noticed the chalk on the floor in the men's.

Er, when was that? The 80's?!

HungryWombat · 02/08/2024 18:22

I came into London last week and was in St James palace. I actually didn't realise the phone muggings were that blatant /endnof aisle on tube etc. Most people I saw had their phones out.

So yes I perhaps could do with your friends tips!!!

dawngreen · 02/08/2024 18:22

My fella, and I went on holiday to London. We visited all the tourist spots, and a day after leaving for home. All the area's we visited had being bombed even the toilets. So it put us off staying there in future to be honest. But we did visit another time, and my fella needed the loo so I stood waiting for him. I noticed a sign saying about a murder at the pub/restaurant . Then my fella told me he got told off because he never noticed the chalk on the floor in the men's.

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