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Plane seat drama

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itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 12:29

Just returned from a European break, booked 4 plane tickets for DH and 2 DS (19 &16) and I, eldest DS decided too old to go away with mum and dad so stayed at home. I contacted the airline as cheap non refundable ticket but said I can use it as a spare seat between DH and I so all good.

On return flight, only 2 hours long and we have seats A (me) B (spare) C (DH) and D (DS) then a couple with a baby in E & F

Couple with baby realised we were together and pretty much demanded DS moved to seat B - I politely pointed out it wasn't a random spare seat but a booked and paid for one, now I have 2 kids so appreciate it's hard to travel with a little one and would have offered the seat but they were so bloody rude and entitled. I pointed out we had paid for 4 seats and they had only paid for 2 - so asked for a contribution towards cost £30 (by this point they are just demanding the seat because they have a child)

They got pretty rude and offensive (called me a fat b**ch) so I said no, stewardess said was up to me

Should I have given them the seat?

OP posts:
Fluffyelephant · 02/08/2024 15:47

Peony15 · 02/08/2024 14:02

Former airline staff here.
If you book a ticket and no show / don't check
in within the airline's deadline you are not entitled to your " seat " as you are no longer flying.
The seat gets released when the flight closes between 60-40 mins before departure generally.
Every airline also overbooks flights to cover for no shows / people missing flights due to traffic, illness, late connecting flights.
Nor do you get guaranteed a specific seat even if you paid for it in case of equipment change/ defect seats / accomodating people who
by law have to sit together or close by ( kids under 12 have to be within reach of parents in adjacent seats/behind/across aisle ) to put on oxgygen masks in emergency.
When DS no
showed you lost the seat and the airline could have reallocated it after check in deadline. You ticket was non refundable, maybe travel insurance covers it depending on circumstance. You were not entitled to the empty seat, any passenger could have been allocated it but sometimes if flights are empty no show seats stay unfilled.
I can see why you think you " owned "
DS seat but you didn't.
Just info, not commenting on scenario of the other passenger.

Edited

I didn't think the overbooking happened on every airline, just the bigger ones.

How would that work at the small airports with the cheap airlines?

Many of the routes only have flights going out a couple of times a week.. if it was overbooked and not enough seats were available it would be absolute carnage.

Derbee · 02/08/2024 15:41

itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 14:48

Grammatically either can be used but it depends on the situation.

The easiest way to decide is to put in into a sentence without DH or DS as follows,

Me had seat A
I had seat A

Obviously you would say I had seat A so using I would be grammatically correct

No, OP. You were describing using the seats collectively. So an extra seat for DH, or an extra seat for me. Not an extra seat for I.

You've tried to correct the poster (incorrectly!) If we’re being pedantic, your opening sentence is also incorrect. It should be clear to you, using your rule that you tried to explain to the previous poster. I booked 4 tickets for DH, 2DS and I doesn’t make sense.

I booked tickets for I is incorrect. I booked 4 tickets for DH, 2DS and me. I booked a ticket for me is correct.

Hoppinggreen · 02/08/2024 15:38

Yousay55 · 02/08/2024 15:30

Why did you want a seat between you and your dh? Of course it’s your seat, you had paid for it, but what difference would it have made for you to let them have it?
I think the entitlement and rudeness of the couple with the child was wrong, but I’m confused why you needed the seat? Was it for comfort?

The difference would be that they wouldn't have the extra space, have you never had an empty seat next to you on a plane?
Its great

lolly792 · 02/08/2024 15:33

@itstoohotnow - grammatically you're incorrect!

I think you've understood part of a rule but applied it to a different sentence construction. Try removing the other person from the sentence:
*
'The seat next to DH and I' *

You would not say 'The seat next to I', you would say 'the seat next to me.' Add DH back in and it's 'the seat next to DH and me.'

(I changed 'between' to 'next to' just because you can't have a seat between one person, but the sentence structure is the same.)

Yousay55 · 02/08/2024 15:30

Why did you want a seat between you and your dh? Of course it’s your seat, you had paid for it, but what difference would it have made for you to let them have it?
I think the entitlement and rudeness of the couple with the child was wrong, but I’m confused why you needed the seat? Was it for comfort?

AnnieMcFanny · 02/08/2024 15:29

Steward saying her husband was a no-show so it was for the airline to reallocate. We were an hour late taking off as we missed our slot and lots of angry pissed off people

This was the scenario I wondered about and I think the situation could have gone either way for the op.

Temushopper · 02/08/2024 15:28

itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 14:48

Grammatically either can be used but it depends on the situation.

The easiest way to decide is to put in into a sentence without DH or DS as follows,

Me had seat A
I had seat A

Obviously you would say I had seat A so using I would be grammatically correct

It would be:
There was a spare seat beside me
There was a spare seat beside I
Generally it’s I if you are doing the action so “DH & I went to the cinema” but in this case it’s the seat that was “being” something so you’d use me. I don’t think it sounds that wrong though as people do tend to use them interchangeably now.
Well done sticking to your guns on the seat. That was so rude of them.

Noonelikesasloppytrifle · 02/08/2024 15:28

I think in this situation I would have given them the seat but I would have shamed their attitude. Something along the lines:

"This is a seat that I have paid for. You have been rude and entitled and have not asked politely in any way. I will give up this seat for the benefit of your child because I am bigger person but I suggest that next time you find yourself in this situation then you ask nicely in the first place and you won't have an entire plane of people judge you for you attitude".

FeelingSoOverwhelmed · 02/08/2024 15:21
  1. Calling you a fat bitch is completely unacceptable obviously - after that I would not have been disposed to give them a seat!
  1. Asking for £30, I find that a bit cringe for some reason. I know you paid it but it just feels a bit weird to ask for a random contribution. I think I'd either just offer it or not.
  1. It's "Between DH and me" because prepositions are generally followed by an objective pronoun rather than a subjective one. Your explanation is wrong because the "I had the seat" is using the subject of the verb.
Drigante · 02/08/2024 15:21

itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 14:48

Grammatically either can be used but it depends on the situation.

The easiest way to decide is to put in into a sentence without DH or DS as follows,

Me had seat A
I had seat A

Obviously you would say I had seat A so using I would be grammatically correct

The sentence you quoted was completely different. "I eat an orange" is fine. That doesn't mean that "The orange eat I" is correct.

Anyhoo all this arguing over the middle seat is by the by. The other couple didn't ask for the middle seat between OP and DH. Whether it had been released or not - and it seems fairly clear to me that it hadn't been - DS's seat was still DS's.

Genevieva · 02/08/2024 15:19

Wow! The entitlement of some people is off the scale. The spare seat was an occupied seat, an aisle and an occupied seat away from them, yet they had the temerity to be so overbearing and demanding that they called someone sitting 4 seats away from them a ‘fat bitch’. The air stewardess should have threatened to remove them from the flight for being disruptive.

notimagain · 02/08/2024 15:18

Seashor · 02/08/2024 15:05

That’s not how airline seats work. If your son hasn’t checked into the flight by the time check in closes, then he looses the seat and the airline can and will re sell it or put standbys into it.

The son had been checked-in on-line prior to flight closure.

If you look back upthread the OP states she discussed all this with the airline and they seem to have okayed everything that went on.

HaveYouSeenRain · 02/08/2024 15:16

i have traveled tons of times with my babies and a 2 hour flight w a baby on your lap is really not such a hardship. If they wanted 3 seats, they should have booked another seat. I had chunky DS on my lap for 2 hours when he was 1 year and 11 months and we survived 😂 but I wanted to save the money on the extra seat.
sorry they were rude to you OP.

MrsRobert · 02/08/2024 15:13

If you're a larger person, isn’t it the done thing to buy an extra seat for comfort reasons.

Astonmaid · 02/08/2024 15:10

Another no from me. Good for you :-)

otravezempezamos · 02/08/2024 15:08

GCAcademic · 02/08/2024 12:30

No way. Not when they spoke to you like that.

This! I would perhaps have been more accommodating if they had been polite.
That kid has no hope with potty mouth parents.

LuckyMary · 02/08/2024 15:08

@Peony15 I book an extra seat (because I am fat) and pay for it. So it shouldn't be given away! I've only done it with easyJet, maybe different on other airlines?

SummerTimeIsTheBest · 02/08/2024 15:08

JMSA · 02/08/2024 12:34

Asking for money for the seat is really embarrassing.
But there's no way they should have been so rude:

No, demanding the seat is embarrassing. Asking to reimbursed is completely reasonable. Why should the OP be out of pocket?

Seashor · 02/08/2024 15:05

That’s not how airline seats work. If your son hasn’t checked into the flight by the time check in closes, then he looses the seat and the airline can and will re sell it or put standbys into it.

Spinet · 02/08/2024 15:03

itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 14:51

EasyJet - just live chat them as even if you don't have a spare passenger line I did they will talk you through what you do to book the spare seat as it's quite common now.

Lots of forums with instructions too so I'm surprised at all the airport staff on here who are not familiar with this

No it's me. Imagine if it was a we or us situation. You wouldn't say between him and we. But really that is quite beside the point of the thread and I'm going to go away now.

notimagain · 02/08/2024 14:59

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 02/08/2024 14:56

On every airline seat thread I have read, countless posters state people who have paid for their seats should ask for payment when faced with demanding CF"s demanding their seats. Yet now the op has actually done this it's frowned upon

Agreed..

I still think what’s being missed by some who think the OP was being petty is this isn’t just the common or garden case of the OP being asked to swop out of a seat they chose to sit in to move to another one.

What was happening here was that they were actually being asked to give up entirely one of four seats they had paid for and which the airline agreed they could still use.

Cantrushart · 02/08/2024 14:59

itstoohotnow · 02/08/2024 14:48

Grammatically either can be used but it depends on the situation.

The easiest way to decide is to put in into a sentence without DH or DS as follows,

Me had seat A
I had seat A

Obviously you would say I had seat A so using I would be grammatically correct

😣

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 02/08/2024 14:56

On every airline seat thread I have read, countless posters state people who have paid for their seats should ask for payment when faced with demanding CF"s demanding their seats. Yet now the op has actually done this it's frowned upon

notimagain · 02/08/2024 14:55

Lots of forums with instructions too so I'm surprised at all the airport staff on here who are not familiar with this

TBF to staff, former and current, there are lots of differences in policy and differences in procedures between all the various airlines and pretty much all the airports….

VCVCVC · 02/08/2024 14:55

You can definitely book a spare seat. I’ve done this for baby who needs to go in lap. You have to put the passenger name as EXTRA INFANT SEAT.

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