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To wonder if no one else's parents don't want to spend time with them?

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ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 11:49

I regularly ask my mum of she wants to do things with me at weekend. She regularly says no, even if she has nothing else to do. That is her choice of course, but it makes me feel deflated. Anyone else in the same boat?

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OldMutantDecrepitTurtle · 02/08/2024 13:29

Mine are utterly passive. If I invite them to my house, "it's too far," but they never invite me there either. Never ring or text. If I text, it's often ignored. I've given up really. My mum in particular is in thrall to my brother, and they spend all their time together, with her doing everything for him even though he's 47!
It would have been nice just to have a normal family but at least now the parents are getting old, the rest of us don't feel guilty for leaving the bulk of the care to my brother who has milked so much out of them.
Just look at it that way, OP. When someone has pretty much cut you out of their life, you don't need to feel bad when they suddenly need care.

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 13:28

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:17

I have to admit I am a bit tired of cooking for adult DC after doing it for over 20 years, so I often ask them to cook for themselves. But always happy to spend time.

She has to cook her husbands dinner anyway because he won't do it. She just never invites me!

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Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:17

I have to admit I am a bit tired of cooking for adult DC after doing it for over 20 years, so I often ask them to cook for themselves. But always happy to spend time.

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 13:15

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:10

I would hope to be doing that even in my nineties. My mum is nearly 80 and always up for stuff like that. If my DD made me lunch in my house, I would be thrilled to accept. Parents are people, but that's hardly going camping.

I assume your mum is not very old or in bad health.

She's early sixties and in good health.

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ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 13:13

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 02/08/2024 13:08

Another one who thinks people can be awfully harsh when discussing elderly parents and viewing their relationship as transactional.
As we hear all the time on here, parents are just people. They don’t get everything right, they go through periods of anxiety or not feeling great. They might just want peace and quiet in their later years.

But there should surely be effort on both sides? Even if it's just welcoming an adult child over for a meal which my mum never does and then at christmas she insists I go for dinner and on the times I went to my then boyfriends family for Christmas lunch, she makes me feel guilty about.

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Octavia64 · 02/08/2024 13:12

Devil's advocate here:

I have adult children and I'm seriously disabled.

I became seriously disabled as an adult.

I have put a massive amount of time, effort and money into my children. I have spent literal decades doing things I do not like so that they enjoy it.

I do feel sometimes when they invite me to something - sometimes I'm not interested in it and I only have limited energy and frankly
Don't want to go (I use a wheelchair and have major mobility problems) and sometimes frankly I'm just knackered.

I only really manage socialising maximum every other day otherwise I get very tired.

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:10

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 13:09

It's things like going for a coffee, having lunch at mine or me making it at hers.

I would hope to be doing that even in my nineties. My mum is nearly 80 and always up for stuff like that. If my DD made me lunch in my house, I would be thrilled to accept. Parents are people, but that's hardly going camping.

I assume your mum is not very old or in bad health.

Cremant31 · 02/08/2024 13:09

I feel similar, I suggest things but they aren’t usually keen. They are not keen on anything further than 20 minutes away or that costs more a coffee (early 60’s and financially comfortable, just set in their ways). I’ve suggested the odd time to my mum about doing something and she did take me to lunch last year when I was having a rough time at work but she seemed disinterested and there out of duty. She made a big point of only having soup because she thought it was expensive (just a normal pub menu and I’d offered to split the bill).

They do a day a weeks childcare which I can sense is a burden, when I collect my son I can see my mum tidying and checking her watch waiting for us to go. I am going to suggest from September that we make other arrangements. It’s stings a little as my granny looked after me.

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 13:09

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:01

Perhaps OP could clarify what stuff she means or what she wants to do with her mum.

It's things like going for a coffee, having lunch at mine or me making it at hers.

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BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 02/08/2024 13:08

Another one who thinks people can be awfully harsh when discussing elderly parents and viewing their relationship as transactional.
As we hear all the time on here, parents are just people. They don’t get everything right, they go through periods of anxiety or not feeling great. They might just want peace and quiet in their later years.

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 13:01

Perhaps OP could clarify what stuff she means or what she wants to do with her mum.

Ilovetuesdays · 02/08/2024 12:56

I love my adult children deeply, enjoy seeing them and spending time with them, but why is there an expectation to do things together?
As I've aged, I tire more quickly and don't have the stamina that I used to have for long days out, especially in this hot weather. Maybe if you just suggest meeting up for lunch or a coffee these pesky old folks would show sufficient gratitude for you all gracing them with your presence be happier to see you.

blackcherryconserve · 02/08/2024 12:51

BeethovenNinth · 02/08/2024 12:15

My dad. He is 80. Makes zero effort. I find it hurtful.he is selfish though.

my mum is different.

He's 80! Why would you expect him to do stuff with you. At that age he probably just doesn't have sufficient energy.

I'm 76 but both DDs understand that I just can't keep up with family activities any longer and are happy to see me for lunch or an afternoon together - maybe 2 - 3 hours at a time. Grandsons have so many of their own activities at weekends that family get togethers are few and far between especially as none of us live near each other.

BogRollBOGOF · 02/08/2024 12:47

DM totally lost interest after 2020.
Her poor hearing has also deteriorated and she smugly rejected mobile phones many years ago so the landline that she can't hear is the only way to get in touch, and she's too far away to drop in on even if she would let people over the threshold.

It stings, but it's gone on so long that it's wearing off now. She's made lots of unhelpful choices that I'm not responsible for.

Arraminta · 02/08/2024 12:45

It's a sad fact that many parents just don't care that much about their children. They have children because it's what everyone seems to do, but actually they're really not suited to being a parent. They're too selfish, too self absorbed. Or they're just not capable of any type of deep emotional bond with anyone.

My MIL was uninterested in DH and my BIL once they stopped being cute toddlers. DH struggled with homesickness in his first year at university. MIL regularly travelled past campus en route to see her sister but never once bothered to pop in and see DH.

She wasn't cruel or evil she just doesn't possess the capacity to care deeply about others.

5128gap · 02/08/2024 12:44

Would you really want someone to do something they didn't want to do with you just to avoid being 'selfish'? As a child maybe you'd expect a parent to be sufficiently selfless to endure soft play or something for your sake, but once you reach adulthood surely you're just two people who either want to do a particular thing together or you don't. It shouldn't be a parental duty. It's a shame your mum isn't on the same page about what would be enjoyable, but does that mean there's no common ground? A coffee, a chat on the phone? Something she chooses?

Lentilweaver · 02/08/2024 12:43

I fully agree parents should have their own lives. I am not keen on parents doing regular childcare; I think they need a rest. But in this case, I am on OP's side. The odd weekend is surely what every parent would do if their child asked.

Authorinwaiting · 02/08/2024 12:40

Mrsjayy · 02/08/2024 11:55

Yes my mum ..both parents are selfish and only do things that suit them. So if I said to my mum do you fancy doing x y z, and she would weigh up what she would get out of it first but most of the time she can't be bothered. I am nothing like her and enjoy spending time with my Dc they are now adults with partners but we do still spend time together.

I'm sorry your mum is like this but you don't have to be like her.

I could have written this post.

I agree 💯 break the mould.

MiddleAgedDread · 02/08/2024 12:39

We live 4 hours apart so only see each other a few times a year, and that's just fine by me!! I get digs about when I am going to visit to which I usually reply that the motorway runs in both directions and they're welcome any time (they're retired and I work full time yet somehow I make at least 80% of the trips). Perhaps you need to find yourself some more friends?

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 12:39

theresnolimits · 02/08/2024 12:35

Didn’t she bring you up for the first 18 years of your life? Does that not count because she’s older now and wants to live her life the way she wants?

I do get fed up with this ‘they won’t help me so I won’t help them attitude’ that I see so often on MN. As if the childhood years don’t count.

My parents weren’t great - it was different times and they didn’t really get the nurturing memo. But now they’re ancient, of course I help because it’s just the right thing to do.

She did but was always half hearted. She's said a lot of bad things.

It was also her choice to have me. I only feel it's fair for me to put in the effort she has with raising me and how she is now. She treats her husband like he's the dogs bollocks. He can look after her in old age. Except he did nothing, no care or housework or cooking while she was receiving cancer treatment, so he certainly won't be looking after her in older age.

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Itstime1 · 02/08/2024 12:37

My DM only ever contacts me for money. Only ever asks to see pics of my DD when she’s been with her sisters and hasn’t got any pics to show them of her (because I hardly send them).

She only ever asks to see my DD when she wants to use it as an excuse to ask us to take her to dinner/drop her off somehwhere/‘lend’ her money/ get something off us.

Even then, we will re arrange stuff to allow her to see her and have to pick her up and bring her to our house and drop her back off home. She cancels about 75% of the time on the day as well.

I very rarely try anymore and actually try to not see her! Some parents are just awful. Try not to care too much. The issue is them not you!

theresnolimits · 02/08/2024 12:35

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 12:27

Oh yep she'll expect me to be round. She's made it very clear she doesn't want to go in a care home. I won't be anywhere near.

Didn’t she bring you up for the first 18 years of your life? Does that not count because she’s older now and wants to live her life the way she wants?

I do get fed up with this ‘they won’t help me so I won’t help them attitude’ that I see so often on MN. As if the childhood years don’t count.

My parents weren’t great - it was different times and they didn’t really get the nurturing memo. But now they’re ancient, of course I help because it’s just the right thing to do.

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 12:35

If I do ask her to do something with me she thinks I'm trying to make her feel guilty when she says no.

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Mrsjayy · 02/08/2024 12:35

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 12:25

I'm sorry 😞. Makes you wonder why people have kids doesn't it?

I get on fine with her I visit her she isn't a "bad person " and when I was growing up she was a good enough mum I would have liked to have had a better relationship with her as an adult I've just resigned myself to the fact that's the way she is.

ElTortilla · 02/08/2024 12:34

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 02/08/2024 12:32

Nope, not just you.
My mum is very open with her favouritism towards my sisters and will happily spend time with them, but never wants to spend time with me, even when I've been in tears and telling her I'm on the verge of a mental breakdown if I don't get out and about with someone soon.

My Dad has always been very self centred, selfish with his time and money etc.
He used to spend time with me happily but since COVID, he never wants to, doesn't want to take me anywhere (I always pay my own way) and now I've had to move house (a whole 6 miles away) he never wants to even visit me anymore, apparently it's incredibly difficult to sit down and drive somewhere.

I accept it now, they'll never change. I focus my energy elsewhere, but let's hope I don't decide to be petty when they're old and lonely and desperate for someone to spend time with them.

You have every right to deny them care in older age. This is something I am going to stick to and not feel guilty about.

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