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There's absolutely nothing wrong with iPad at the table at a restaurant after a child centric day

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moomoomouseey · 02/08/2024 10:04

Imagine a day, filled with child friendly activities on holiday. Think beach, biking sandcastles, swimming together, pool, diving, playgrounds, reading books together, drawing, child centred show in the evening, fun fair, trampoline jumping.. etc etc..

At the end of all this, you go out for a meal. You bring crayons and paper etc and other toys, but after a while, your children are restless and bored but you want to enjoy your meal. You get out the iPads with headphones and let your kids watch for a bit/ play educational games, while you enjoy your meal in peace.

Some judgy judgerpants walks past and thinks you're a bad parent.

Kids are 2 and 4 or 3 and 5.

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Bellaboo01 · 02/08/2024 11:30

moomoomouseey · 02/08/2024 10:57

My 4 year old uses Edurino, which is really good. Check it out. Very educational.

It really isnt. I'm now thinking that this is clearly a 'joke thread' or a thread to get people to sign up to Edurino!

PerkyMintDeer · 02/08/2024 11:30

ComealongMartha · 02/08/2024 10:11

Your children, your choice.

Personally I wouldn’t use a iPad to entertain my children but that’s me and mine.

Absolutely this.

PeonyBlushSuede · 02/08/2024 11:30

@MidnightPatrol

Same here. I remember my brother having a GameBoy and on holiday would take it to the restaurant and be playing on that.

Yet at that time that was acceptable but screens are not - he was just as engaged in a 'screen' back then

moomoomouseey · 02/08/2024 11:30

HowardTJMoon · 02/08/2024 11:26

I love the "if you think it's not great to shove an ipad in front of your kid to keep them quiet then you must think you're a perfect parent" thing.

I'm by no means perfect but I do think that if children aren't given the opportunity to learn how to behave in restaurants without a screen in front of them, how are they going to pick up those skills?

I think it's hard for very young children who just want to walk around and be active.

I think it's usually easier for older kids to sit and they just learn to do it.

Our kids aren't too bad, because they do it a lot. Sometimes with iPad and sometimes without, it depends on the situation and our energy levels !

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WobblyBoots · 02/08/2024 11:28

I wouldn't judge as everyone has their own way of doing things and honestly I couldn't care less.

But it's not for me. In the case you give, lovely child-centric day out doors, beach etc, my kids are too tired to eat out. They'll be tired, grumpy, and need a quiet tea and go to bed. Giving them screens at a restaurant would just be kicking the can down the road for us and we'd have the fall out to deal with at bedtime.

We're on hols at the moment and dealing with this sort of situation everyday. Feeling a bit grumpy that we can't enjoy a nice meal out. So I do get it.

Tiredalwaystired · 02/08/2024 11:28

You do you - although I don’t think it encourages good table etiquette - family meals are always where we find out most about our teenagers lives now, so setting that expectation early will make it a lot easier to communicate when your child is older (just a tip - Take it or leave it).

However, if you’re going to do this then absolutely no sound or give them headphones. Other people are trying to have a nice chat with their partners (or even children!) too - fecking Peppa Pig in the background is irritating in the extreme.

prescribingmum · 02/08/2024 11:28

I wouldn’t dream of commenting but it wasn’t allowed for my children at that age and still isn’t (now 6 an 7). We took the children travelling around France, Italy and Spain and it was wonderful to see no tablets out at the tables when dining out in restaurants despite plenty of children from toddlers to older children.

When we go on all inclusive holidays, it’s tablets everywhere though, rare to see a child eating without one

Otherstories2002 · 02/08/2024 11:27

stargirl1701 · 02/08/2024 10:07

Well it never happened when I was a child (70s baby) and my DC were never allowed to either (10s babies).

No it did not. But how often as a child did you go out for sit down meals. How many times did you spend the entire day out accessing expensive activities. This whole “not in my day” judgement disregards completely the huge differences in lifestyle.

moomoomouseey · 02/08/2024 11:27

Tiddlywinkly · 02/08/2024 11:25

At that age we brought sticker books or kept it to one course and left.

Honestly, I do judge as I think kids need to learn to engage at the table, but I wouldn't say anything to a random stranger about it.

The thing is, after a normal day, we don't need to use iPads. When we are on holiday and exhausted, we use them at the table.

If we are just going out for dinner at the weekend or a pub lunch, we don't tend to need to use them.

Our kids go out to eat with us a lot but when we are super exhausted, it just works better for us to let them have some time on the iPad.

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PeonyBlushSuede · 02/08/2024 11:27

wutheringkites · 02/08/2024 10:15

We don't do it but I don't judge others who do.

This reminds me of when my son was a newborn. I went out for a walk and he finally went to sleep so I put my earphones in to listen to a podcast. Within minutes, a woman walked over to tell me I should be engaging with my baby, not listening to music. I wish I'd told her to fuck off.

Listening to podcasts during nap walks was great with a baby! I do miss them now I have a toddler who rarely naps!

HowardTJMoon · 02/08/2024 11:26

I love the "if you think it's not great to shove an ipad in front of your kid to keep them quiet then you must think you're a perfect parent" thing.

I'm by no means perfect but I do think that if children aren't given the opportunity to learn how to behave in restaurants without a screen in front of them, how are they going to pick up those skills?

PeonyBlushSuede · 02/08/2024 11:26

newleafontheplantjohn · 02/08/2024 10:10

I think it's better not to, I don't like how we have become somewhat reliant on it.

And I include myself in this.

I hate that sometimes it's the only option.

It just wasn't an option 10, 20 years ago and people somehow managed.

But I genuinely don't know how.

Sign of the times I guess.

So yeah, whilst I think it would be better not to, I certainly wouldn't judge. I'm in the same boat.

I'm a 90s kid and we really didn't go out to eat much - it was such a rarity. Maybe 4 times a year for an occasion. Didn't go 'regular' until we were older and could sit through a long meal

I have a 2 year old and we don't eat out loads but still way more than when I was a kid

Tiddlywinkly · 02/08/2024 11:25

At that age we brought sticker books or kept it to one course and left.

Honestly, I do judge as I think kids need to learn to engage at the table, but I wouldn't say anything to a random stranger about it.

Bahhhhhumbug · 02/08/2024 11:24

When we were on holiday earlier this year in Greece, we were walking up a slope back to our accommodation one or two nights and when we stopped for a breather we looked way down and could see/hear a local family sat in their garden at a long table, three or four generations l'd say with DC of various ages. We commented how lovely it was yes some of the DC were being a little lively but the family were all interacting/including them in conversation etc. We sat there for quite a while .
I think its important for them to learn their social skills when at a table and at same time that sometimes its not all about them (a couple of 'shushes' etc were aimed at them but also then allowed to speak).
I don't like them or mobiles at the table no.

whoamI00 · 02/08/2024 11:24

Nothing wrong with it and I'm sure it won't be harmful for kids if it's used for a limited amount of time but at the same time it's something I don't want to encourage it.

Fupoffyagrasshole · 02/08/2024 11:24

yep do what you gotta do! We have the iPad hidden away and never use it at home or on days out - until it’s the meal time otherwise we wouldn’t make it through sometimes with the 3 year old!!

and we use it on the tube on the way home to keep her awake so we aren’t left with a dreaded danger nap!! 😅

court care less what anyone else thinks or has to say about tbh

ThatsCute · 02/08/2024 11:23

MapleTreeValley · 02/08/2024 10:17

My kids never had iPads in restaurants. Sorry if I sound judgy but you did ask.

Same

Dancingqueen18 · 02/08/2024 11:23

I've mentioned the incident at the Airport & its reminded me of another incident on a train. A young child was on the ipad for 4 hours. Hardly a word was passed unless going to the toilet. When her parents removed it at the destination to help her with her jacket the child was in a total trance, oblivious to her surroundings. It was as if she was still watching the screen. It actually looked quite scary.

HowardTJMoon · 02/08/2024 11:22

ladykale · 02/08/2024 11:17

lol all these perfect parents.

Sorry but not natural for a 2 year old to sit still for 3 hours for a meal.

Back in the day our parents just wouldn't take us at all.

Go ahead with the iPad, really has no impact when older if you don't have too much screen time otherwise.

What's the point paying to eat if you are walking around the restaurant apologising to other diners the whole time, ESPECIALLY after a child centric day!

I wouldn't take a 2 year old for a three hour meal because of course they're going to get fractious. That's just setting yourself up for failure.

Cherubs4 · 02/08/2024 11:21

It's not needed

Edingril · 02/08/2024 11:21

justlonelystars · 02/08/2024 11:17

Did you read the last paragraph of my post?

No because I am a perfect parent all the information just lands in my head

Saltedbutter · 02/08/2024 11:20

You haven’t actually told us what 'Judgy judgerpants' said. I’m guessing they didn’t say anything or this person is a work of your imagination as you want people to tell you iPads at the table are ok.

Personally, I’ve never allowed it and think it’s a shame to see it. But you do you. I’d hate to be a 'Judgy judgerpants'.

AlwaysWearSPF · 02/08/2024 11:19

All this about screens causing anxiety I remember having to watch EastEnders as a child because we had one TV and obviously my parents watched this in front of me and all I can remember is having anxiety about who shot Phil Mitchell.

Anyotherdude · 02/08/2024 11:19

There’s nothing child-centric about not teaching them how to behave properly at the dinner table, either. Especially in a restaurant.

Gloooooop · 02/08/2024 11:19

I completely get what you are saying and I do similar with my adult daughters. We hang out a lot and we all talk continuously. Literally non stop with both my daughters talk at warp speed 😭😭So,sometimes, when we take a break and go for a coffee we agree to sit and have a chill and all play on our phones in silence for half an hour or so. I guess if people walk by they might think we are boring and obsessed with our phones when the reality is that we have a great time together.

We didnt have iPads when my kids were kids as they hadn't been invented but we made meals out a time where we interacted with the kids the whole time. We played games and talked. We tended to keep meals out shortish. My kids were generally mellow and well behaved so it wasn't difficult with them.

I don't judge parents if they let their kids have iPads at restaurants. I don't care about things like that so it doesn't register with me. I'd judge if they let their kids be noisy or run around as that affects me and I'd really judge loud performance parenting as that's really annoying.