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Family reported my husband to Adult Social Services

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LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 05:02

Its a long story but eight years ago I suffered an absolutely devastating psychotic breakdown after I submitted my PhD. Before this time I had what a thought was an amazing and near perfect marriage. I love my husband very very much. Over the time I have been unwell things have been very difficult. We had never really had a row before my breakdown (at the time I thought this was good but now I see it was a sign of lack of honesty and communication). Since being unwell I have seen a lot of things that were putting a serious strain on me which have come out in therapy. My doctors have been fairly certain though that at root the extreme and total breakdown is rooted in childhood trauma. My father, mother and sister were all abusive especially my father.

I have spoken to my sister about some of the issues that are difficult in my marriage as my husband has not responded well to my illness. I am a totally changed person and having never said a word about anything before, after the breakdown it was like a volcano of rage and anger and frustration coming out for my husbands neglect of me and my needs.

I spoke to my sister about the difficulties which have included my husband's hoarding, verbal abuse (in response though to my anger which has been out of control at times of which I am not proud), him not transferring money into my account on time sometimes so I don't have access to money, him not wanting to eat in the same room as me or be with me, him not engaging with my therapy and my abusive family with whom we have had little interaction on a regular basis are frustrated that he refuses to answer phonically.

Yesterday Adult Social Services phones me to say my father and my sister had made a report of concern for my wellbeing and safety at home. This morning I had to go to a meeting and explain the concerns to them.

AIBU in feeling this is an overreach by the state? I was there for two hours explaining everything to them and my husband os devastated as for eight years he has tried to care for me when I have been seriously unwell and devastated and angry that my whole life has been taken from me and Im not really getting better. Im especially angry that the report came from my original abuser.my life is in utter and complete ruins.

OP posts:
ashitghost · 02/08/2024 22:47

It’s been eight years. I think you should let each other go. Your marriage is over. Lay it to rest and move on.

Starlight7080 · 02/08/2024 22:35

I only asked about the alcohol because a friend of mine who is a hoarder and drinks daily now . Started to help with anxiety but now she is trying to cope with two big problems. But won't speak to any professional.

Yalta · 02/08/2024 22:31

I think you aren’t recognising that even before your breakdown he was hurting you

I think as someone who came from an abusive family I can understand why you are having a hard time recognising that your dh didn’t suddenly change, he has always been abusive.
We don’t recognise it as abuse because we only see what our family did as abuse and we need to have someone point out the abuse comes in all different shapes and sizes and explain why it is abusive and argue with you because even then we more than likely don’t believe it

The duvet incident is proof that he hasn’t suddenly changed into this mean, selfish, financially and emotionally abusive person He was always like this and you not wanting to believe or not recognising the abuse keep defending him because you feel it was you who raised your voice, you who rocked the boat, you who now cannot work and you who is reliant on him

But it was him who made your life so restricted, him who applied the pressure, him who now has what he wanted, someone who is reliant on him and captive.

I actually think you could be in therapy for the rest of your life because you still have the cause of your breakdown living with you. He is still dripping the poison into your ear each day

It’s like treating a sore finger without removing the thorn sticking out from it.

No amount of ointments and bandaging and treatment will make your finger better until that thorn is removed

One positive of divorcing a mean money focussed person that you have been married to for a few years is that what ever they have in their bank account, what every they own, whatever pension, investments, savings etc they have as well as everything you have is all marital assets and the starting point is 50/50

I know you aren’t going to be marching into a solicitors office on Monday morning but in the meantime I would start by getting evidence, bank account numbers and what he has in each account, what his pension is worth and any other monies he has in different accounts and places.
What your mortgage is, who’s names are on the deeds etc and also if you can look up the Freedom programme.

There are also books to read. Someone will come along with the correct title and author but I think it is called “Why does he do that”and start reading this in secret.

I would try and get a copy where there isn’t any possibility he can track what you have bought and sent to your work to read in your lunch time

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 22:28

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 22:09

You don’t know it’s not working and that OP is not already better than she was. Childhoods like OP’s leave people traumatised for life. Long term trauma is something that is very very difficult to heal from. In addition here there is also a psychotic breakdown. No pill that will magic either of those things away.

Are you the dodgy psychologist? Because no - any proper medical professional would have passed her onto another by now.

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 22:09

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 21:24

Not in the slightest. But the OP has been stuck for eight years - whatever she’s been doing it’s not working.

You don’t know it’s not working and that OP is not already better than she was. Childhoods like OP’s leave people traumatised for life. Long term trauma is something that is very very difficult to heal from. In addition here there is also a psychotic breakdown. No pill that will magic either of those things away.

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 21:24

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 20:50

Ah right and so on the basis of that you think OP should get a shift on.

Not in the slightest. But the OP has been stuck for eight years - whatever she’s been doing it’s not working.

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 20:50

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 20:00

Simply time. The psychosis went away quite quickly - within weeks.
He wouldn’t engage with services - so didn’t have any involved. He’s totally and utterly fine now - but I do worry it could recur - but this was about five years ago.

Ah right and so on the basis of that you think OP should get a shift on.

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 20:00

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:43

can I ask what helped your partner to recover? I will try anything.

im not sure my therapist is damaging it is a very complicated case and how on earth I did not see any MH issues even the insane levels of anxiety I had I will never know until my dying day.

Simply time. The psychosis went away quite quickly - within weeks.
He wouldn’t engage with services - so didn’t have any involved. He’s totally and utterly fine now - but I do worry it could recur - but this was about five years ago.

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 19:50

Starlight7080 · 02/08/2024 19:36

Can I ask have either of you ever used alcohol to cope with the trauma/mental health problems?
I agree with others who have said maybe your therapist isn't right for you .
You sound like you are going round in circles.

yes I feel its circles too.

OP posts:
LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 19:49

Starlight7080 · 02/08/2024 19:36

Can I ask have either of you ever used alcohol to cope with the trauma/mental health problems?
I agree with others who have said maybe your therapist isn't right for you .
You sound like you are going round in circles.

I drink very rarely but my husband uses alcohol and I am concerned with how much he drinks. that goes back to before my breakdown. He drinks wine most days. I do not like alcohol after growing up with my father.

OP posts:
Starlight7080 · 02/08/2024 19:36

Can I ask have either of you ever used alcohol to cope with the trauma/mental health problems?
I agree with others who have said maybe your therapist isn't right for you .
You sound like you are going round in circles.

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:59

Bedroomdilemmas113 · 02/08/2024 18:57

You said you had an elite job 🤯

sorry I was confusing. I did have an elite job but left that to do my PhD.

OP posts:
Bedroomdilemmas113 · 02/08/2024 18:57

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 16:17

yes - I allowed him to deter me getting on with. stuff that needed doing.

everyone here is saying I had a job but I didn't - I was on a PhD stipend.

im not suggesting we have a cleaner now at all. I barely leave the house. But a cleaner could have helped when we were both working 60-70 hour weeks. and yes we are right that was never a viable possibility because my husband wouldn't allow that because of the hoard.no way anybody could have come in to clean. I wasn't a lazy bum sitting on my ass - I was a phd student at an elite university.

You said you had an elite job 🤯

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:43

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:28

I live with someone who had a psychotic break. I know this- but her “therapist” is not helping her - if anything that relationship sounds just as damaging as the others.

can I ask what helped your partner to recover? I will try anything.

im not sure my therapist is damaging it is a very complicated case and how on earth I did not see any MH issues even the insane levels of anxiety I had I will never know until my dying day.

OP posts:
Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:36

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:28

thank you. I didn't want to hear it but my psychologist who is very experienced and knows the complexity of my case which involved religious trauma and spiritual abuse alongside bullying and having work stolen by a Professor, said that it could take 10-15 ears to recover when its been so bad that you believe you are a snake. I have no organic illness which actually makes it more difficult to treat. Ive also lost my mum and my FIL in the last two years also. im more frustrated than anybody because I was always a go-getter, much much mire os than my husband. my mother was abusive but she was a force of nature and certainly knew how to look after her own needs.

Hmm 10 -15 years while paying them for how many sessions a week/month?

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:28

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 18:20

Woah woah, breakdowns as severe as OP had - take a long time to recover and some people never do. Give her a break. She’s clearly worked through a lot of stuff already.

She’s doing the best she can with what she has and is already inclined to blame herself.

Recovery doesn’t happen to any particular timetable.

thank you. I didn't want to hear it but my psychologist who is very experienced and knows the complexity of my case which involved religious trauma and spiritual abuse alongside bullying and having work stolen by a Professor, said that it could take 10-15 ears to recover when its been so bad that you believe you are a snake. I have no organic illness which actually makes it more difficult to treat. Ive also lost my mum and my FIL in the last two years also. im more frustrated than anybody because I was always a go-getter, much much mire os than my husband. my mother was abusive but she was a force of nature and certainly knew how to look after her own needs.

OP posts:
Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:28

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 18:20

Woah woah, breakdowns as severe as OP had - take a long time to recover and some people never do. Give her a break. She’s clearly worked through a lot of stuff already.

She’s doing the best she can with what she has and is already inclined to blame herself.

Recovery doesn’t happen to any particular timetable.

I live with someone who had a psychotic break. I know this- but her “therapist” is not helping her - if anything that relationship sounds just as damaging as the others.

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:24

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:15

and I totally and utterly agree I need to do something different.

I have read many many things about trauma but bath I and my psychologist have many unanswered questions.

You’ll never find all the answers.m and once again your therapist/psychologist or whatever should be helping you to move on - not getting you trying to dig deeper and deeper.

Get a new therapist or take a break for a while.

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 18:20

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:09

you’ve been examining your childhood in therapy for eight years. That hasn’t got you any further. You need to do something different.

You’re more than stuck - your posts make it sounds like literally nothing has happened in 8 years. “I should have got Spotify” you can literally get it right now.

Woah woah, breakdowns as severe as OP had - take a long time to recover and some people never do. Give her a break. She’s clearly worked through a lot of stuff already.

She’s doing the best she can with what she has and is already inclined to blame herself.

Recovery doesn’t happen to any particular timetable.

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:15

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:14

Not a lot has happened. my breakdown was so severe I went into a complete and utter freeze state. I even became mute for a while.

I have worked for about 2-3 of the years.

I have tired to change some of the things I wasn't happy with- like trying to buy better clothes. I have learnt a lot of new crafts and am training to be a ceramicist. had my hair cut differently.

one of the impacts of my breakdown is I find it hard to listen to music especially from my life before. its like I have no connection with my prior self at all and its is very distressing. Music was an absolutely huge part of our life together.

Ive also cared for my MIL who has dementia but she is now in a care home.

and I totally and utterly agree I need to do something different.

I have read many many things about trauma but bath I and my psychologist have many unanswered questions.

OP posts:
LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:14

Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:09

you’ve been examining your childhood in therapy for eight years. That hasn’t got you any further. You need to do something different.

You’re more than stuck - your posts make it sounds like literally nothing has happened in 8 years. “I should have got Spotify” you can literally get it right now.

Not a lot has happened. my breakdown was so severe I went into a complete and utter freeze state. I even became mute for a while.

I have worked for about 2-3 of the years.

I have tired to change some of the things I wasn't happy with- like trying to buy better clothes. I have learnt a lot of new crafts and am training to be a ceramicist. had my hair cut differently.

one of the impacts of my breakdown is I find it hard to listen to music especially from my life before. its like I have no connection with my prior self at all and its is very distressing. Music was an absolutely huge part of our life together.

Ive also cared for my MIL who has dementia but she is now in a care home.

OP posts:
Timinfuckingruislip · 02/08/2024 18:09

you’ve been examining your childhood in therapy for eight years. That hasn’t got you any further. You need to do something different.

You’re more than stuck - your posts make it sounds like literally nothing has happened in 8 years. “I should have got Spotify” you can literally get it right now.

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 18:01

Mirabai · 02/08/2024 17:53

yes I absolutely am draining him. prior to the breakdown he lent on me probably more than I did on him. it kind of feels though that I have also been caught in the crossfire of his issues. Prior to the huge breakdown I was far far far more functional and together and reliable than him. in every sphere of life.

Yes. This is great insight OP. As your friends said you were his “rock”.

You have your own issues and you’ve got caught up in his issues. And that is why posters are suggesting you may need distance from him to sort yourself out.

You’re concerned about what you’ve put him through in the last 8 years but how much concern does he have about what he’s put you through in the last 30? How much insight does he have into how much his behaviour has affected your life? Has he offered to get help or try and change?

he has cried and said he is so sorry if anything he has done has contributed to my getting unwell. yet its a very generic statement and he doesn't acknowledge the hoarding impact in particular. he does acknowledge that not buying me birthday gifts or not discussing having children or important things might have made me feel unloved.

OP posts:
Mirabai · 02/08/2024 17:55

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 17:49

that's what my psychologist is working on with me. do you really believe it would have got me one way or another?

Absolutely OP. Your childhood was terrible. You did an amazing job of coping for so long.

Calliopespa · 02/08/2024 17:53

LucyLoo1972 · 02/08/2024 17:49

that's what my psychologist is working on with me. do you really believe it would have got me one way or another?

It would have.

And if it didn’t “get you” it would still have been there, dormant.