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FumingAintTheWord · 02/08/2024 00:12

I have a truly horrible manager and the one above her is just as bad. They bully people, are always on a power trip and out to get the loveliest members of the team. I'm leaving this team in the autumn so I've sucked it up but this week has been really, really hard and I was hoping for your light hearted stories of a manager coming unstuck ( nothing too awful! I don't wish badly on people ) to cheer me up. I just want to know it's possible that people like this don't get away with it forever!

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Pussycat22 · 03/08/2024 22:58

I'm sorry but I'm afraid I'd wait for them in the car park!!!!.

Seasmoke · 03/08/2024 22:42

TheDogIsInCharge · 03/08/2024 21:24

Not a boss but my MP tried to get me sacked after I took him on over false claims. He emailed the HR head of the company I worked for claiming all sorts of lies.

My company stood by me, but the while investigation in my alleged wrongdoing was extremely stressful.

He lost his lucrative MP role last month, and I think you could hear my cheer from the next county. Maybe even France.

Omg that is disgraceful. I'm glad he's out on his ear!

Cherrysoup · 03/08/2024 22:04

Had an absolute bitch of a line manager who accused me of something despite multiple witnesses telling her it wasn’t true. Her immediate boss believed her and made me jump through ridiculous hoops, to the point that I felt I just had to leave. A mate kept me updated and she pissed everyone off so much she eventually had to leave. Somebody who used to work with her and couldn’t stand her is starting soon at my current job. Might be interesting!

Ariela · 03/08/2024 21:40

I (aged then about 25) had a new boss who came from another branch. His reputation preceded him.
Christmas meal, he insisted I sat next to him. Of course the lecherous old chap just wanted to bed any woman that would have him. Don't think he realised a) I knew that and b) I had spent my late teens/early 20s working behind a bar so could rebuff anyone. So he decided that he didn't want to take no for an answer and that I would be visiting his room after the meal.
I can't actually remember what insult /put down I shut him up with - it was polite but to the point and slightly amusing, along the lines of if he was insulting my intelligence if he thought I would be interested in a chap more than twice my age, and that he wouldn't be able to keep up anyway (I was very fit swimmer in those days), but, being sat next to the biggest office gossip on my other side, the accounts department thought it hilarious. He struggled to show his face in there for a good few weeks after because this titter of gossip went round the room.
He wasn't happy and made things tricky, so I got another job and he thought he got the last laugh when I left - by thanking me for my leaving letter dated xxx (a week earlier) in his reply and confirming my leaving date to be just prior to Easter and thus taking the Easter weekend and 1st May bank holiday out of my notice period. What he forgot was that the company had changed the holiday entitlement since I'd started in a different branch of the company to in arrears and that meant they paid me for a whole month that I supposedly had in hand (which I knew I didn't have in hand, meaning I got effectively 21 days extra pay I wasn't really entitled to).

Have never asked for it back nearly 40 years later and company no longer exists.

QuizzlyBears · 03/08/2024 21:34

I am one of a team of 7 managers in the service area, I’m the youngest by 6 years and have been in post for 6 months, promoted from a junior position. The other 6 peer managers of mine have all been in post anywhere from 4-15 years. Several of them are giving me somewhat of a hard time at the moment for various reasons but I’m very over their passive aggressive approach and expectations that I am too young/inexperienced for the role whilst simultaneously not helping me learn. Being kind costs nothing and I can’t wait for them to realise that eventually.

TheDogIsInCharge · 03/08/2024 21:24

Not a boss but my MP tried to get me sacked after I took him on over false claims. He emailed the HR head of the company I worked for claiming all sorts of lies.

My company stood by me, but the while investigation in my alleged wrongdoing was extremely stressful.

He lost his lucrative MP role last month, and I think you could hear my cheer from the next county. Maybe even France.

worryworrysuperscurry · 03/08/2024 21:10

@sandrapinchedmysandwich That is such a vile thing for him to say. Such a lack of humanity. My vile boss made jokes about me committing suicide when I was seriously ill with depression - obviously cut from the same cloth.

worryworrysuperscurry · 03/08/2024 20:55

Two bosses - one who was described as pure poison by the head of service. Used to pull the race and disability card so often it became meaningless 19 people had brought grievances against her. She went through 24 staff in two years, one of whom only lasted an hour before walking out shouting "go fuck yourself" to her. Not long after I left she was dismissed on the grounds of gross misconduct. Not sure of all the ins and outs, but part of it was her plagiarising a Local Government Association publication after being warned on several occasions. She had also printed copies of this publication (which retailed at £23 a copy) and distributed them to attendees at a conference.
Second boss only had 9 grievances against him when I took him to tribunal. He had stated to me that only weak people get ill (when I had been seriously ill and in hospital for two months). About a year after I left he had to have a quadruple bypass and was left too ill to work. Oh, and I won the tribunal, well, it was settled out of court for a substantial sum three days before tribunal (it was a game of nerves really - my solicitor and union had said my boss would be laughed out of court).
It really was a case of two vile people getting a dose of karma.

taxguru · 03/08/2024 20:01

Not quite the same as not directly relating to employees.

But I once was on secondment to a factory. They had a truly awful procurement manager. Luckily she had no direct staff, and just used the admin pool as required. But she mercilessly "haggled" with suppliers to beat them down on pricing, always lying about potential future orders to make them give better deals, setting one supplier against another (sometimes truthfully, other times with made up suppliers, i.e. fabricating an offer letter or price list to get another supplier to compete against them). Then she'd constantly change the agreement, i.e. force them to reduce lead times, threaten all kinds of things if an order was late, or part of it was damaged, etc. Basically made the lives of the suppliers absolute hell. She'd have them dangling on a string, and randomly would just "cancel" them and suddenly not give them new orders, in the hope of them virtually begging for orders, offering lower prices, better lead times, etc. She'd boast to the other managers about how well she did, how much money she was saving the company, etc.

The company hit troubles. Cash flow became tight. Suppliers were being paid late, some started holding back deliveries. It was a time when the company should be calling in favours, but the procurement manager had built up no goodwill, and the suppliers wouldn't budge at all, which led to the company having to pay full whack with other suppliers to buy stuff (which they had no money for). It virtually ruined them After a while of the company being virtually paralysed and the rest of the management team wondering why no supplies were coming in and a stream of excuses/lies from the procurement manager, the MD started talking to the suppliers directly and got first hand from the horses mouth how they weren't happy the way they'd been treated by PM, weren't willing to do any favours, etc. Once the board realised what had been going on, they sacked the PM, and then things started moving again - relationships were repaired/renewed and the company started functioning again.

Just showed how important it is to treat people well, whether staff or suppliers, to build up goodwill which is necessary to smooth the rough when things go wrong and you need "friends".

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 03/08/2024 19:51

horrible boss who made life hell for everyone. Big cheese loved him though (big cheese was a complete wanker too - birds of a feather and all that).

Few things :
When I left, company paid me massive payouts avoid me taking them to tribunal. Sadly, he stayed in role but that would have been first really big x against his name. He also tried to force me not to tell anyone I was leaving, and I realised after it was so he could spin it as him "letting me go" to the business. My lawyer assured me I didn't have to agree to that and not only did I tell my internal clients, most of them were really upset I was leaving, turned up for my leaving drinks (and paid). Another black mark for him.

When the big cheese who loved him was forced out, he left too. He landed up eventually turning up in another country!!! Rumour has it by then his reputation was so bad, no one would hire him here!

The other country didn't last that long. He was unemployed for over a year and is now in a job with a fancy title but for a very small, second rate organisation.

Twat.

RockyRogue1001 · 03/08/2024 19:48

Redgreenfroggy · 02/08/2024 00:23

Not unstuck but what kept me sane was the knowledge that he thought he was loved by everyone when in reality no one could stand him. He was even given a nickname by people who worked with him in and out of the organisation. I won’t out myself by saying the real name but it’s along the same lines as
Dickhead Davis (made up) it was Dickhead but I am not saying the really last name.

When he was being an arse I just kept saying Dickhead Davis to myself. It helped. All the women also said he made their skin crawl and he thought he was gods gift.

I might know who you mean!

You've described him perfectly.

Local government?

Roeland · 03/08/2024 19:18

Have worked for many, many incompetent people. Most haven't had their comeuppance and float on (public sector - poor performance management) but one was reported to counter fraud for falsifying his qualifications - in an extreme way - and got a suspended jail sentence and lost his job. A couple felt sorry for him but most of us were cross that he had earned 150k of taxpayers money for years, and kept that (and his pension) despite being incompetent.

Redlegs · 03/08/2024 19:09

Another one.
i worked at Lidls and the manager wouldn’t ever take me off my till so I could leave on time so I was essentially on a lower hourly rate because once they take you off your till you have to go and count all the money.

One day, I had my driving instructor waiting for me in the car park so I was losing my lesson minutes which cost £30 per hour. I just walked out.

I was then suspended for 3 weeks on full pay while the matter was investigated and was then just allowed back with no further action.

When I eventually left, I was written to by Lidls and told they’d accidentally overpaid me by 2000 pounds and I was required to pay it back. I set up a direct debit for £1 per month for the proceeding 2000 months.

Pretty satisfying. 🙂

TunnocksOrDeath · 03/08/2024 19:08

I had an awful manager who had a team of about eight under him. Of those, five developed stress-related sickness during the project he 'ran'. For the other three, two were contractors who refused to work more than their agreed hours, and I'd already had clinical depression, and developed techniques to deal with it all, so he didn't impact me so much. There's a lot of other stuff: lying, incompetence, etc but it would turn into an essay...
Anyway one day we were all 'invited' to a meeting with this guy's boss the next morning where we were informed that our manager had resigned with immediate effect. No discussion, no goodbyes. Gone. Later we found out that he'd resigned to avoid being fired. I just wish those further up the food chain had noticed how bad he was before he caused so much damage.

Redlegs · 03/08/2024 19:03

I worked in a nursery school for an absolutely horrible bully of a woman who would literally throw laundry baskets at me, shut me in dark rooms and not even ask me if I was okay after I had a painful miscarriage (ambulance called to the nursery to take me to hospital mid shift as I was passing out with pain).

Her deputy was just as bad if not worse. The whole culture was rotten and sadly most of the staff were not fit to look after young children.

When I finally plucked up the courage to leave, I handed in my notice and she had the gall after a week beforehand promoting me to room leader to give my new employers a bad reference. Fortunately my new employers said that they could clearly see I was nothing like as described.

Anyway, I decided that the best revenge was success so I undertook my teacher training at the local university and plodded along with it for years.

I heard through a friend Who was close to the sister in law of the horrible manager that this manager had also started a degree at the same university a year after me but had been asked to leave after the first year because she wasn’t able to complete the assignments to a satisfactory level.

Now 10 years into teaching, earning way more than the paltry sum I was paid at this nursery, I still get a petty pleasure when I walk past the nursery on sunny days when I am enjoying my 8 week summer holiday while she and her bullying under managers are still stuck in the rooms of the hot sweaty nursery for 10 hours a day.

LlynTegid · 03/08/2024 18:45

Not a direct manager, but one who was nevertheless big headed to say the least. When he went to prison for embezzlement I shed no tears.

RainintheDesert · 03/08/2024 18:41

A team manager was leaving to go to another part of our organisation. He was a horrible man, especially to women, a bully, a man with nothing nice to say about our work at all. He had delusions of superiority, such a vain person the likes I've never met before.

He did have allies, people who tolerated him or turned a blind eye to his viciousness. So when he organised a leaving drink at the local pub. He expected at least his allies to turn up, maybe our top boss, and said to everyone that they must come. He even let the staff paper know about the event. He talked it up like it was tea at Buckingham Palace.

Anyway, only five people turned up, one of them being Top Boss. Everyone else avoided it. There was a lot of food left over, apparently. Other managers asked us why we do make the effort to go and we said we didn't like him. They had no idea (because they chose to ignore what was going on under their very noses).

This was years ago, so I hope he's retired by now.

unsync · 03/08/2024 18:36

Whrn i was in my twenties, I told a bullying manager to shove it where the sun don't shine and walked out. This triggered an HR review of his high staff turnover and he was asked to leave about six months later.

CatamaranViper · 03/08/2024 18:36

Mine didn't think women or people under 30 should be managers (I was 26).
He was vile. Bullying, racist, sexist, homophobic, hated the customers, showed clear favouritism in staff (only some were allowed to drink in the hotel bar, only the people he liked).
Anyways, he got fired because we caught him red handed pouring cheap wine in expensive wine bottles and selling them to a crowd of tourists. He also forgot to mute the phone when he was calling a customer "a daft fucking cunt". His last day was glorious. Not a single person gave a shit. No cards, no gifts, no after work drinks. Just completely glass eyed.

Oceangreyscale · 03/08/2024 18:28

Well, I put in a grievance against mine for bullying and harassment which is currently being investigated. So we will see. But meanwhile I've left with a large payout and my manager must at a minimum be under some significant stress.

Justanotherusernameagain · 03/08/2024 18:20

Not so much bad management but a bad person getting their comeuppance. My sisters ex who was abusive and violent to her, got a job at my company as my manager, I let my boss know the sort of person he was prior to hiring but they gave him a chance (I get that there’s two sides etc and on paper he was great at his job) I think it was about 3 months before they found he was stealing money from the till to fund his drug habit.

Sladuf · 03/08/2024 18:19

I once saw a manager, who was an absolute witch to most but had her favourites, get walloped in the face by a colleague. By all accounts the manager had just tried it on with the colleague, who was not interested in women.
The colleague remained with the company and is still there as far as I know. The manager left quietly.

I had a similar experience to DanceLikeFredAstaire’s above with a line manager who disliked me and I couldn’t understand why. She worked in the same room as me and wouldn’t talk to me. She was just a vile person and on one occasion she’s been screaming her head off at the other person she line managed in the corridor outside and vice versa. We all heard it. I only worked there for 4 months and had never felt so unwelcome.

All communication unless I went and spoke to her was by email. This proved to be how she came unstuck. She emailed me and asked me to look into options for off the shelf drug and alcohol testing of all things. I did this, sent back numerous examples of kits - costs, how they worked, how accurate they claimed they were etc. Thought nothing of it.

About a week later I was asked to go into her manager’s office and my manager was already sat there. The manager’s manager started laying into me, “this idea you’ve had about off the shelf drug testing,” and how terrible it was.
I had my phone with me and while she was rambling at me, clearly getting annoyed because I was using my phone as she ranted at me, I forwarded the email I’d had from my manager, which showed exactly whose idea it was.
I said, “go and check your inbox. I’ve just forwarded you the email so you can see for yourself who really deserves the credit and the rant about how stupid the idea is. It wasn’t mine.”

My manager was looking horrified at this point, realising what I’d done, and I just laughed. She lost her cool and said I was mocking her. I replied, “indeed, so what are you gonna do?“ With that she started stuttering and said, “I’ve got to go,” got up and walked out of the office. Her manager looked gobsmacked and started talking at me.
I said, “I’m not interested. You know fully well the sort of person she is and you’ve done nothing about it for years, so you’re an enabler. Wish the next person good luck from me because I’m going to leave now.” I went and collected my stuff and walked out.

Only job I’ve ever gone AWOL to this day. They’d struggled to recruit for the job for months before I’d accepted it and I was still seeing it being re-advertised 5 months after I left.

Seasmoke · 03/08/2024 17:56

DH's boss used redundancies as a result of a restructure to basically get rid of people who had questioned her decisions over the years and give promotions to people who were her mates. She is currently a named person in at least 3 tribunal cases for unfair dismissal. The company took her word over everyone else on the panel too despite them all disagreeing with her so hopefully she will get her comeuppance, but so will they.

BobbyBiscuits · 03/08/2024 17:43

I had a boss who would scream at all his staff, and make the other women cry virtually daily.
On one such day when he decided to give me the hairdryer treatment. He didn't even care there was someone in reception, he just went for it 'you fucking this, you fucking that..' I just stood there. When he paused for breath I indicated to the woman in reception 'hi mum, meet my boss, dave'. My mum witnessed the whole thing as she had come to take me shopping after work.
He went bright red and started guffawing awkwardly and patting me on the back. Saying 'oh, haha, of course, I was only joking. Just having a laugh, eh, bobby?' me and mum just both looked at eachother, laughed and walked out. He didn't get his commuppence though. I did leave a few months later, just walked out. I guess that ruined his day a bit.

Elclr · 03/08/2024 17:41

First ever job, entry level admin role for a small business. I was earning peanuts, but I was 19 and happy for a job after I'd quit university.

Director was vile to me. Once asked me if my RSI I was suffering in my wrists was from giving too many hand jobs, and made a number of suggestive comments at me that I could give him one. Gross. Anyway, after 18 months they took away my desk and my job role and I was left with little work to do and no desk to do it at. I just had to sit at a desk of whoever was on AL and find work to do. I raised this numerous times but fell on deaf ears.

After about 4 months of this, I (without witnesses or any warning) was given an action plan and told I was on a misconduct warning for lack of productivity. I asked for it in writing with details of the meeting and was told no, and if I pressed they would "make it official". We had no HR department and I was scared to push for more. The final straw was coming back to the office to get something I'd forgotten to find the other director wanking over porn at his desk.

When I handed in my notice, they both genuinely seemed shocked.

Anyway. Business went under 6 months after I left...I laughed manically. I just wish I'd had the confidence then that I do now to stand up for myself. The next company they set up also going bust helped though.