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To not realise how much money is in selling puppies?

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Purplebiscuitwithsprinkles · 01/08/2024 22:31

We've been on the look out for a puppy. We've decided to go for a rescue dog. Got chatting to a neighbour and they told us a neighbour around the corner is selling puppies at £1500 each x6. As far as we know all is above board and they are registered etc.

We were tempted to go for it as the dogs are on our list but something was niggling away at me so decided to stick with our original plan and go for a rescue dog. This is booked for a visit to a rescue centre tomorrow.

I suppose my AIBU is should people not be allowed to breed puppies and those wanting to get one should just get rescue/abandoned dogs instead? There's so many dogs in shelters but they seem to be so many being bred still.

I don't know the full ins and outs but £9,000 tax free is a lot of money from what I understand the neighbours have bred puppies before and made £10,000 so £19,000 in the space of two years with no tax to pay? Should breeders have to pay a tax and only be allowed to breed so many dogs a year?

Apologies if I have this completely wrong and they do have to pay a tax etc.

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Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 21:53

I wouldn't have a rescue dog, under any circumstances, because there are too many unknown factors, You can never know what the dog experienced, or any trigger points for aggression. Put them to sleep, unless they are elderly dogs being rehomed with older owners.

Yourdemonsyourproblem · 02/08/2024 21:40

People can act like they do all these health checks and pay tax but they dont. Get a rescue dog

Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 21:19

Let me bore on a moment. Big dogs, like labradors and up, need exercise every single day of their lives. Even when they are injured or recovering from surgery, in a storm, they need outdoor exercise and the stimulation they get there. You buy proper waterproof clothing. And wear it.

Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 21:12

Honestly, if you are thinking of a pet tor your kids' entertainment, please may I say don't buy that pet. It's not fair on the animal. My DC's friend's mum bought a malamute puppy (too cute for words) but never exercised it properly. It had to be put to sleep several years before the breed life expectancy because it was not given five or seven miles (two hours) exercise every single day. That should be the standard. If you buy a big dog, it needs exercise. To exercise it properly and safely, you need to control the dog. If you are not willing to work at it, please don't have a dog.

KatieB55 · 02/08/2024 21:10

The risk with rescue dogs is that you don't know their history and that is really important if you have children.

WiddlinDiddlin · 02/08/2024 21:06

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:59

A box, they cant get out until they are pregnant.

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A what now? What are you talking about?

Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 21:00

Gosh. Family pets and companion animals are clearly trending down..

Patatochake · 02/08/2024 21:00

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:59

A box, they cant get out until they are pregnant.

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oh haven’t heard of that before that’s hideous

WiddlinDiddlin · 02/08/2024 21:00

happyhemsby · 02/08/2024 20:45

@Grammarnut studs my own dog.

Gosh how lucky that your own dog had the exact attributes to complement and improve on your bitch... out of all the dogs of that breed in the country, yours was the best.

So what profit did you make out of that revenue - what expenses had to come out of that?

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:59

Patatochake · 02/08/2024 20:58

Huh?

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A box, they cant get out until they are pregnant.

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:58

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 02/08/2024 16:54

There's also plenty KC breeders who do the same. They're all bastards.

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Vile creatures.

Patatochake · 02/08/2024 20:58

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:57

Its absolutely disgusting and takes a certain type of person to think of it in the first place.
Cats have a specially designed box whereby they are obliged to do their thing. Gross.

Huh?

eggplant16 · 02/08/2024 20:57

Its absolutely disgusting and takes a certain type of person to think of it in the first place.
Cats have a specially designed box whereby they are obliged to do their thing. Gross.

Patatochake · 02/08/2024 20:53

Both parents should be health tested

KC registered…I know people think it’s not relevant but you need to know the coefficient if there is too close a bloodline (if FTCH etc…popular stud)

stud fees

full vet health check on mum and scan

whelping set up, heat lamps, vet bedding, runs

puppies vaccinated, wormed chipped and KC registration

10 weeks of full on care from all the kit top notch food, enrichment and a puppy pack that has at least 100£ worth of stuff in it

other support puppies might need, extra night feeds/formula etc

If its a one off it’s expensive

Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 20:48

There are posters on this thread from whom I would consider buying a dog, and a lot more I wouldn't trust to own guinea pigs.

happyhemsby · 02/08/2024 20:45

@Grammarnut studs my own dog.

Papyrophile · 02/08/2024 20:41

I think some of your hesitations about getting a dog could be allayed by buying a puppy in a really country area. I have had three, but all (apart from the first in 1992) were bred by friends from their own dogs, or on recommendations from shooting acquaintances. We don't shoot or have land but there are always some puppies in a litter that have an interest in sport. We have one that loves retrieving, whether a stick from the river or a fallen bird, and while she has never been trained to the gun, she puts up game birds, kills rats and squirrels very efficiently. The local NT rangers adore her, because she does part of their job. And she came to us as an eight week old puppy, our third labrador. Trained the same as her predecessors. She is bored indoors, so spends most of the day when not walking, watching/guarding the house and the butterflies. Terrified of the dishwasher though.

Grammarnut · 02/08/2024 20:41

happyhemsby · 02/08/2024 20:07

@Grammarnut 6 pups £3000 each = £18,000 minus £3000 for costs

So you own the sire, or got a cheap stud? Or possibly proved the dog? Otherwise the stud fee is usually the price of a pup.

happyhemsby · 02/08/2024 20:07

@Grammarnut 6 pups £3000 each = £18,000 minus £3000 for costs

Sinuhe · 02/08/2024 18:21

5 pages of it!

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Purplebiscuitwithsprinkles · 02/08/2024 18:19

Sinuhe · 02/08/2024 18:19

So any breeder should not be rewarded for their expertise and hard work? 🙄

Who has said that?

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Purplebiscuitwithsprinkles · 02/08/2024 18:19

Flyonthewall01 · 02/08/2024 18:17

Rescues aren’t always what they are cracked up to be unfortunately. We rescued a 18month old dog from a big local rescue. Checks all done and she settled in beautifully. 2months later she flipped out of nowhere, started attacking all my doors, walls and would try and lunge at any cars to grab onto. It ended in her biting my partner and a hair raising drive back to the rescue with her. Completely heart breaking for us as we really loved her but we didn’t know the trigger as it was nothing consistent or obvious and we couldn’t safely have her back.
The problem with rescue dogs is they can have such awful pasts that are completely unknown to the rescues and new owners. We will have to go with a puppy now which isn’t what we wanted but we can’t go through that again :(

Flowers Oh no so sorry to hear this. I hope things work out for you with the new dog.

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Sinuhe · 02/08/2024 18:19

So any breeder should not be rewarded for their expertise and hard work? 🙄

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Purplebiscuitwithsprinkles · 02/08/2024 18:17

@OrwellianTimes Not getting a Goldador we're getting a Labrador thank you for the advice though.

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Flyonthewall01 · 02/08/2024 18:17

Rescues aren’t always what they are cracked up to be unfortunately. We rescued a 18month old dog from a big local rescue. Checks all done and she settled in beautifully. 2months later she flipped out of nowhere, started attacking all my doors, walls and would try and lunge at any cars to grab onto. It ended in her biting my partner and a hair raising drive back to the rescue with her. Completely heart breaking for us as we really loved her but we didn’t know the trigger as it was nothing consistent or obvious and we couldn’t safely have her back.
The problem with rescue dogs is they can have such awful pasts that are completely unknown to the rescues and new owners. We will have to go with a puppy now which isn’t what we wanted but we can’t go through that again :(