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Village bullies - time to move?

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Joyjazz · 01/08/2024 21:54

Aibu to sell a house I bought 8 months ago?

I bought a beautiful house in a village and have spent a lot of money renovating it and building an extension.

The only problem is the neighbours … I think they have a vendetta against me because I’m the newbie in the area. It started with some complaints about the builders’ noise which I could understand. I explained that the work would take x amount of time and there would still only be noise on weekdays 9-5pm. That passed.

Next it was about the parking. I have a drive and my visitors park on the road. Three neighbours have started blocking me in when a visitor’s car is on the unrestricted road. I tried to discuss it and it ended up escalating into an argument.

Next some mad neighbour reported me for running a food business from my property without a licence. I keep bees elsewhere and donated a few jars of honey to the village fete as raffle prizes . The neighbour used this as evidence that I run a food business illegally from my property.

I’ve spent a lot of money on the house. I won’t get it back if I sell any time soon. But I feel so stressed and miserable as the neighbours (4 in particular) really seem to be ganging up on me. if I move it would be back to the city which would mean a less beautiful and much smaller place.

For context, it’s just me and my child who is not yet at school.

Aibu to want to move? Wwud?

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Iwasafool · 09/08/2024 10:37

Kateeeeuyyy · 09/08/2024 07:57

I grew up in a village. My parents still live there. Since Covid, there’s been an influx of people who have moved to the village and built air bnb units in their back gardens / work from home/ don’t make any effort to join in community events . The air bnbers drive too fast on the country lanes and park their card in the middle of unrestricted roads, limiting access to farm and emergency vehicles. Quite honestly , it’s ripped the heart out of the community. Everyone used to know everyone, people used to look out for each other and be open and considerate.

i don’t think you sound like these people, but village mentality is that you make an effort to be part of everything. It seems like you have started doing this with the honey you graciously donated to the fete, but I can imagine it may have got their backs up , if you think of the context above.

you say your child isn’t in school yet. Is there a local school or park? Can you start connecting with other parents from the school? This made a massive difference to me when I moved to a new village.

It’s not ok that people have been unkind to you, but I’d say kill then with kindness- ride it out, become part of the community - you and your child won’t regret it.

Thirty years on the small minded insular people haven't changed however much I try, however much I tried to be friendly with other mums. Life shouldn't be that hard and actually if people don't want to join in why should they.

Re the speeding through country lanes I find it is the locals who do it, they seem convinced they can see round bends so hurtle round them on a narrow lane. Amazes me that there aren't more accidents.

I presume it was the lovely village folk who sold their houses at a huge profit to these inconsiderate newcomers. Funny how that's OK but an airbnb unit isn't.

Kateeeeuyyy · 09/08/2024 07:57

Joyjazz · 01/08/2024 21:54

Aibu to sell a house I bought 8 months ago?

I bought a beautiful house in a village and have spent a lot of money renovating it and building an extension.

The only problem is the neighbours … I think they have a vendetta against me because I’m the newbie in the area. It started with some complaints about the builders’ noise which I could understand. I explained that the work would take x amount of time and there would still only be noise on weekdays 9-5pm. That passed.

Next it was about the parking. I have a drive and my visitors park on the road. Three neighbours have started blocking me in when a visitor’s car is on the unrestricted road. I tried to discuss it and it ended up escalating into an argument.

Next some mad neighbour reported me for running a food business from my property without a licence. I keep bees elsewhere and donated a few jars of honey to the village fete as raffle prizes . The neighbour used this as evidence that I run a food business illegally from my property.

I’ve spent a lot of money on the house. I won’t get it back if I sell any time soon. But I feel so stressed and miserable as the neighbours (4 in particular) really seem to be ganging up on me. if I move it would be back to the city which would mean a less beautiful and much smaller place.

For context, it’s just me and my child who is not yet at school.

Aibu to want to move? Wwud?

I grew up in a village. My parents still live there. Since Covid, there’s been an influx of people who have moved to the village and built air bnb units in their back gardens / work from home/ don’t make any effort to join in community events . The air bnbers drive too fast on the country lanes and park their card in the middle of unrestricted roads, limiting access to farm and emergency vehicles. Quite honestly , it’s ripped the heart out of the community. Everyone used to know everyone, people used to look out for each other and be open and considerate.

i don’t think you sound like these people, but village mentality is that you make an effort to be part of everything. It seems like you have started doing this with the honey you graciously donated to the fete, but I can imagine it may have got their backs up , if you think of the context above.

you say your child isn’t in school yet. Is there a local school or park? Can you start connecting with other parents from the school? This made a massive difference to me when I moved to a new village.

It’s not ok that people have been unkind to you, but I’d say kill then with kindness- ride it out, become part of the community - you and your child won’t regret it.

BlueMoanday · 07/08/2024 14:50

@Joyjazz Can you start parking on the road and letting your visitors park on your drive. Establish that it's a normal place for anyone to park.
Bin day - I agree with others and get a Ring doorbell or similar and record them doing it. And while you are waiting report this to the police as harrassment. Have it on record they are doing this so if they object to the doorbell (unreasonably of course) you have already lodged why you had to do it.
Report and report and report every time they do this. It's the only way to defeat bullies.
I am also sorry it is crap.

TheRoseCritic · 07/08/2024 11:33

Not sure if this will help, but I experienced similar after moving to a village. I ended up completely and utterly ignoring the neighbours in the surrounding buildings, my immediate neighbours luckily were very nice, and I thought you know I can live here loved the village life style was right on the sea front.
I ended up being offered a house in the main town again(always swore I’d never go back) but honestly the village was taking its toll on me I never felt safe or settled really, I had sort of convinced myself I loved it. Been moved 1 month and the difference is incredible, I’m not depressed I’m not worrying about the neighbours or anything, I’ve got lovely new neighbours who have already started looking out for me and my son ( we’re the same just me and my 2yo) and for as much as there are aspects of the village I miss, mainly the safety as no busy roads and now we’re living on a main road (it’s a 20 but people regularly flip there cars on it😬) I really couldn’t imagine the thought of staying there now, looking back I can see how much I hated it.
You could dig your heels in and just ignore it, and it might actually get better as it did for me, eventually all the elderly would speak to me due to watching my son grow etc, but honestly for me I knew I wouldn’t ever truly fit in(and my grandad was from the village so yeah lol)
Whatever you decide it’ll be the right choice, sometimes it’s not worth the mental toll it will take and that’s ok, I had a lot of guilt regarding the move as my son loved it but I realised that realistically he was going to be happy wherever we were because it wasn’t the house that ever made him happy, it was me and him and our life’s that makes him happy.

BreadInCaptivity · 06/08/2024 17:29

I think in many villages there are a cohort of residents who have think they have a right to dictate every aspect of village life.

They tend to run in packs and reinforce each other's bad behaviour.

I wouldn't let it run me out of the village.

A key thing is to make other friendships (allies) within the village and let them know how your neighbours are behaving.

Try and join some local groups. Especially ones they may already be in. Makes it harder for them to gossip about you and you get the chance to counter. Make an effort as far as possible when your child starts school with other families and if there is a local church maybe consider joining the playgroup if they have one.

Be as lavish as you can with your lovely honey (maybe honey biscuits when you attend a new group) Smile

Reality is most other people in the village will already know they are a PITA. We have a little group like this in our village and when it became clear they were bullying a new neighbour they got pretty short shrift from the rest of the community (and a visit from the Vicar to remind them - churchgoers - about being good Christian's...).

Nothing like some social embarrassment to curb excess twatishness.

johann12 · 06/08/2024 17:27

This happened to me when I was young, and I always regretted moving and I still miss my old house. Don't let them push you out, stand up for yourself. If I could change things I would have made a complaint to the police for harassment. I think it was racism, and looking down at me for being a young mum

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 06/08/2024 17:26

Dentalflossie · 06/08/2024 10:42

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. If it's not the done thing to park in the road, you should ask your guests to park on your drive.
I wouldn't stay in Royston Vasey though, life is too short to feel disliked in your own neighbourhood.

But if it is legal to park on the road and it does not obstruct, why cant they park there? Why should batshit neighbouts dictate where people park?

UnfriendMe · 06/08/2024 17:18

I feel for you, we were in a similar situation when we lived in Brighton. Not a village of course, but our house was part of a new build development in a built up suburb and the neighbors were total pieces of shit. They went out of their way to make our lives miserable and we did end up selling and moving. We said to ourselves we moved bc it was a good market and we needed a more remote setting for our dog who is quite anxious and scared of loud noises and people, but if the neighbors hadn't been so horrid we prob would have stayed. I would say don't let those assholes force you out and fight back but I also know how stressful that can be to deal with day in and day out :(

Blackthorne · 06/08/2024 17:02

There’s an assumption here that mums will be nicer at the local school. Sorry to be Debbie downer but I wouldn’t count on that being the case at all. School mums can be very cliquey as we all know by the immense number of threads on here about it!

OP I’d stick it out for one more year but after that, if things still tough, I’d be off back to a nice anonymous London suburb where all of this will disappear overnight.

HairyBanana · 06/08/2024 16:55

When your DC starts school join the FPTA - it's an excellent way into a village community and you'll soon meet some lovely local parents who will become your friends. The curtain twitching bin moving parking space hogging nobodies will fade from your mind as you slowly meet the rest of the community.

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:25

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 16:22

Yes other neighbours. You'd be surprised the trouble one person can make in a small neighborhood. If I could live in a field in the middle of nowhere there would be nothing holding me back.

all with far too much time on their hands

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 16:22

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:18

everyone else being other neighbours? sounds like a real community! i’d have no bloomin idea what one neighbour said to another

Yes other neighbours. You'd be surprised the trouble one person can make in a small neighborhood. If I could live in a field in the middle of nowhere there would be nothing holding me back.

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:18

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 16:12

Erm...by having conversations with everyone else and slandering me to them?

everyone else being other neighbours? sounds like a real community! i’d have no bloomin idea what one neighbour said to another

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 16:12

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 15:10

i can’t remember the last time i saw my neighbour! Let alone had a conversation with them whereby they denigrated me. How does the neighbour denigrate you?

Erm...by having conversations with everyone else and slandering me to them?

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 16:08

Mumofteens4892 · 06/08/2024 15:46

I've been in a village 20 years, in a rented house. My teenage son has started vaping in the garden at night (after we are in bed), and the neighbour reported us to the landlord. We have received a warning letter, and will be evicted if it happens again. Obviously my son has had a proper "talking to" from me, and he will stop doing it, but FFS. Our family home is at risk ... people can be f'ing weird. What if some passer-by vapes near their house and we get accused? It's curtains...

isn’t it a bit more than vaping? not weed too?

Mumofteens4892 · 06/08/2024 15:46

I've been in a village 20 years, in a rented house. My teenage son has started vaping in the garden at night (after we are in bed), and the neighbour reported us to the landlord. We have received a warning letter, and will be evicted if it happens again. Obviously my son has had a proper "talking to" from me, and he will stop doing it, but FFS. Our family home is at risk ... people can be f'ing weird. What if some passer-by vapes near their house and we get accused? It's curtains...

letsjustdothis · 06/08/2024 15:18

Carouselfish · 06/08/2024 14:26

Are they old? I'd ride it out.

they're either old, Tories, or both.

kimchi81 · 06/08/2024 15:10

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 14:55

I really really hope you are right.

i can’t remember the last time i saw my neighbour! Let alone had a conversation with them whereby they denigrated me. How does the neighbour denigrate you?

GabriellaMontez · 06/08/2024 15:05

Classic bullies.

Bullies don't respond to niceness. They see it as weakness.

I think you'll have to step up to them. For eg. Don't use your drive. Park in "bettys" space. Move their bins. Spill them. Install CCTV. Start a rumour that you're selling your property to developers.

Sorry, they sound unpleasant. Hopefully you can take them down.

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 06/08/2024 15:05

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 14:55

I really really hope you are right.

Of course I am liars don't stop being liars and people start picking up on things that don't add up and before you know it they don't believe a word that person says, no matter how of a liar that they think they are.

Elizo · 06/08/2024 14:59

Horrible situation but try to ignore, hold your head up high and they’ll move on.

dontstopmenowimhavingagoodtime · 06/08/2024 14:58

Joyjazz · 02/08/2024 07:33

Thanks everyone. These neighbours really are something else. I’m thinking I might try and ride it out following the words of wisdom on here.

Those who picked up in the single mum thing, I think there’s some truth in that. I’m pretty sure most of this wouldn’t be happening if I had a male partner strutting around 🫤

About the parking, the road is narrow but the objection is that the neighbours think the road spaces right outside my house are “Alan’s” and for “Betty’s cleaner”. They said I can’t just move here and have visitors parking where I like even though it’s a road with unrestricted parking.

I forgot to mention that on bin day, one of the neighbours moves all the full bins to block my driveway and front door.

if I sold up, would I have to declare all this as a problem/dispute? What if I logged some of this as harassment with the police?

I'd be dragging back their full bins and accidentally tipping them over and disposing the whole contents of their fronts!

CosmicDaisyChain · 06/08/2024 14:55

Sugarsugarahhoneyhoney · 06/08/2024 12:12

You will find if you sit back and wait liars eventually get caught out.

I really really hope you are right.

EI12 · 06/08/2024 14:51

Don't even think about it! What if a new place is even worse? There are no guarantees. In time, if you behave well and do not bite the bait, they will come round, or they may move themselves. Stand your ground politely.

Meadowwild · 06/08/2024 14:41

Redgreenfroggy · 02/08/2024 00:08

My friend lives in a small village and she is one of the very few that will talk to people who have moved into the nearby new housing estate. Obviously the villagers completely opposed it but when it got approved did they just accept it? Not they didn’t

There were meetings held by the majority of village to see if they could bar any kids from the new builds going to the village primary school (they couldn’t)

They were up in arms when they realised the postal address for the new builds would include the name of the village and did everything to try and get this changed?

The shop owner was told he would be boycotted if he served any of the people form the new build. Luckily he was not batshit crazy and ignored them. They soon came around after a couple of weeks of having to go somewhere else when they needed milk/bread etc.

So now the new builds are up and the people in them are ignored by most of the village, some won’t even let their kids play with the new build kids. If may events are happening in the village no flyers or deliveries to the new houses.
My mate thought this would all die down but 18month on it’s still the same. Thought they have just got a few new people on the village council who don’t hold a grudge so hopefully things will change.

I thought to myself it can’t be that bad until a met someone who had moved into one of the new houses whose husband plays cricket with my husband. She confirmed she will be walking down the street and people will turn the other way.

This is why I hate village life and the myth that country folk are oh so friendly. It is far pettier, less accommodating than city life, where people are used to rubbing up against each other and tolerating differences.

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