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Neverending interviews... Getting about tired.

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Isitameproblem · 01/08/2024 19:03

I've already had three interviews at a startup. They want me to do 4 roles in one. I've scored: 9, 9, 7, 7 and they're worried about my technical abilities. They wanted me to score at least an 8 in all roles. So no they've decided I need another interview. I'm actually kind of fed-up. Normally, they'd assign a take-home task, but instead I've been asked to provide the answers in the spot, not necessarily knowing what POV they want the answer from. I told the recruiter if they had asked the technical questions directly or given me said task we wouldn't be in this situation. I even told him that I'm starting to get concerns as a future employee.

Originally there were 2 interviews, then 3, and now they want a 4th one.....

Aibu of starting to feel tired about the whole thing?

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turkeymuffin · 02/08/2024 14:10

I've worked in many startups and don't recognise this at all. Recruitment is usually more about a chat with the Founder / CEO over coffee, meet the team and off you go.

What is the role? Has it been advertised? Does the company have funding or revenue?

Irridescantshimmmer · 02/08/2024 14:06

Constantly moving the goal posts, it's possibly a taste of what could happen if you were to get the job.

It's your choice

Aligirlbear · 02/08/2024 14:03

Isitameproblem · 02/08/2024 13:29

I genuinely don't mind the 4 roles, there's enough overlap that they should overlap across all 4. However it's obvious, that as they grow I'll eventually drop one if not two of the roles.

I was chatting to someone on Reddit, and they tried to hire a very similar hybrid. The didn't find the unicorn and eventually split the role into two.

Is it obvious you will drop one or two of the roles ? Why would they if have you working to cover and they are paying one salary ? The majority of start ups are notoriously bad at sorting this sort of stuff out as the bosses are always too busy working on the next round of funding / next client etc. and assume everyone else - even the salaried employees - are as invested in the business as them and will put in the same crazy effort.

WouldUSayImWorthy · 02/08/2024 13:52

Ie: they finally realised they couldn't shaft people and try to get multiple roles filled on the cheap.

Despise these 'move fast break things' modern day sweatshop type start ups!

Isitameproblem · 02/08/2024 13:29

SunshineOceanAndOranges · 02/08/2024 13:19

Honestly, the whole thing is covered in red flags. The interview process sounds like a nightmare but the bit about four roles in one sounds like the real issue to me. Don't go there. I know from bitter first hand experience that companies that do that only set you up for burn out or failure, or both. I've just come out of a toxic workplace in which I worked myself literally into the ground and I can really see the damage it's done to me and to my family. No job in the world is worth making yourself ill and when companies - especially young companies with unrealistic growth plans- do that, you won't even get so much as a thank you card yet you'll be the one picking up the pieces. Sadly, more and more companies behave that way but it's not a sustainable model for anyone.

I genuinely don't mind the 4 roles, there's enough overlap that they should overlap across all 4. However it's obvious, that as they grow I'll eventually drop one if not two of the roles.

I was chatting to someone on Reddit, and they tried to hire a very similar hybrid. The didn't find the unicorn and eventually split the role into two.

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SunshineOceanAndOranges · 02/08/2024 13:19

Honestly, the whole thing is covered in red flags. The interview process sounds like a nightmare but the bit about four roles in one sounds like the real issue to me. Don't go there. I know from bitter first hand experience that companies that do that only set you up for burn out or failure, or both. I've just come out of a toxic workplace in which I worked myself literally into the ground and I can really see the damage it's done to me and to my family. No job in the world is worth making yourself ill and when companies - especially young companies with unrealistic growth plans- do that, you won't even get so much as a thank you card yet you'll be the one picking up the pieces. Sadly, more and more companies behave that way but it's not a sustainable model for anyone.

WouldUSayImWorthy · 02/08/2024 13:17

Yeah you don't necessarily want to cut your nose to spite your face, but neither do you want to have to beg for a role then start with a general feeling of 'not quite good enough'.

Also, please never use the phrase butt hurt ever again, I really hate it 😆😆😆

Isitameproblem · 02/08/2024 13:11

WouldUSayImWorthy · 02/08/2024 11:45

I mean for an 80k role I'd expect all parties to want to do their due diligence, but if they aren't sure after interview three I'd worry about their overall decision making and communication issues.

I'm also a bit "butt hurt" because I'm not "good enough" I feel like they're compromising with me.

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Isitameproblem · 02/08/2024 11:47

Merryoldgoat · 02/08/2024 09:13

You just don’t need that many interviews. A quick online screening conversation to check you are a decent communicator, a proper interview with a short task to test any specific skills required, and a proper interview. I always have the task before proper interview so I can review and pick up on points I need to check then.

Exactly this ^

The recruiter is also not the best communicator, he always tells me of how I "failed" the interview however they keep moving me to the next step.

His "tips" haven't been the best either. For the second interview he told me to prepare for X, and I went into a rabbit hole, when it turned out maybe knowing they would be competency based I would have don't better.

Then the third round it was with a commercial guy, so he told be to try to be commercial. For better or for worse he worked at another company with a very specific use case. I did have access to it in a previous role, but nobody really used it in the way he wanted me to use it.

Plus! The role they kept mentioning had very different responsibilities to their vision (different companies give different names to similar roles, there's no set standard).

Sorry, I'm still somewhat frustrated.

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WouldUSayImWorthy · 02/08/2024 11:45

I mean for an 80k role I'd expect all parties to want to do their due diligence, but if they aren't sure after interview three I'd worry about their overall decision making and communication issues.

Merryoldgoat · 02/08/2024 09:13

You just don’t need that many interviews. A quick online screening conversation to check you are a decent communicator, a proper interview with a short task to test any specific skills required, and a proper interview. I always have the task before proper interview so I can review and pick up on points I need to check then.

Sweetteaplease · 02/08/2024 09:11

HelterSkelter224 · 01/08/2024 19:43

Imagine working for them 😬

This. I'd bow out

Isitameproblem · 02/08/2024 09:04

LadyGaGasPokerFace · 01/08/2024 22:05

I’d be busy washing my hair the day of the last interview. Either employ you or not. How much are they paying?

It's not too bad! (Around £80k).

Chatting to someone on Reddit it isn't that abnormal, I'm.jusy not used to it..

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LadyGaGasPokerFace · 01/08/2024 22:05

I’d be busy washing my hair the day of the last interview. Either employ you or not. How much are they paying?

chatenoire · 01/08/2024 22:04

WouldUSayImWorthy · 01/08/2024 21:55

What career goals do you have?

At a start up you might find you end up with an inflated title which looks good on your CV, but you'll work yourself to the bone for it in an unstable and stressful environment.

You also might struggle to replicate the title once you move on, if the title doesn't reflect the experience and skill set that it would usually connote in larger more established.

For example, I was made a Head Of when I was at a start up - because it was small and I was simply the most experienced person in a department of three.

I want to be at least head of in 2 years, director in 3... And ideally VP in another 5...

xTheLoudLeaderx · 01/08/2024 21:59

What the hell ! What they are wanting to re-interview you on is surely what the can do in training if it's technical ? too much !

WouldUSayImWorthy · 01/08/2024 21:55

What career goals do you have?

At a start up you might find you end up with an inflated title which looks good on your CV, but you'll work yourself to the bone for it in an unstable and stressful environment.

You also might struggle to replicate the title once you move on, if the title doesn't reflect the experience and skill set that it would usually connote in larger more established.

For example, I was made a Head Of when I was at a start up - because it was small and I was simply the most experienced person in a department of three.

Aligirlbear · 01/08/2024 21:30

Isitameproblem · 01/08/2024 21:07

100% poor communicators.

I've never worked at a startup but I was advised it was the easiest way to reach my career goals...

I suspect you have been misled - working for a start up usually means often insane hours, being expected to multi task, lines of responsibility blurred and management can be a bit hit and miss as often the start up owners are entrepreneurial rather than versed in HR / the boring but essential admin management bit.

If you are used to an established corporate / professional organisation it will be a culture shock.

Toucanplaysguitar · 01/08/2024 21:25

If you currently work in any vaguely professional organisation I would steer well clear as it will be a huge shock. The startup I worked in promised a good salary but quite often we didn’t actually get paid on time, it was at the whim of the person ‘in charge’ of finance.

stayathomer · 01/08/2024 21:17

Another that says it just doesn’t seem like a fit for you

Isitameproblem · 01/08/2024 21:07

Lalalacrosse · 01/08/2024 20:59

red Flags ahoy.

they already want you to do four roles in one, and I’d bet my left leg that they won’t be paying you the equivalent salary for the four roles.

They are poor communicators and indecisive.

They are also setting it up so they can low ball you on pay as you’re ‚not quite‘ as they want - and they’ll hold out a potential future raise that will never come.

100% poor communicators.

I've never worked at a startup but I was advised it was the easiest way to reach my career goals...

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Lalalacrosse · 01/08/2024 20:59

red Flags ahoy.

they already want you to do four roles in one, and I’d bet my left leg that they won’t be paying you the equivalent salary for the four roles.

They are poor communicators and indecisive.

They are also setting it up so they can low ball you on pay as you’re ‚not quite‘ as they want - and they’ll hold out a potential future raise that will never come.

SummerTimeIsTheBest · 01/08/2024 20:55

Run away…now!! If you get this job you’ll hate it. They’ll demand more and more and it’ll be hellish. Don’t think of this as a waste of time though, thank your lucky stars that you’ve dodged a bullet. There’s something better out there where people don’t make you jump through hoops before you even work for them.

ShanequaAndWhat · 01/08/2024 20:48

How desperate are you for the/a job?!

I'd say no! You've had three interviews with me and you should know from that whether you feel I will be a good fit. If you don't know by now, I imagine all of your business processes will be as questionable. Fuck off! up to you if the fuck off is too far

MillicentMargaretAmanda · 01/08/2024 20:47

As above. Approach startups, especially tech ups, with immense caution!