To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?

Right and left aren't very helpful terms in my view as they both have an economic and a social aspect (at least, if not others). For instance, iirc the BNP used to advocate taking utility companies back into public ownership (an economically left wing policy). I remember talking to a couple of Hungarians once about Orban and their complaint was that he made it too easy for people to claim benefits (all you have to do, they said, was pop out children - I'll note that I don't know how true this was, but it was certainly their perception).

It's entirely possible to be quite left wing in one way and quite right wing in another. We need better political vocabulary.

yeah, this was kind of what i meant. because some issues dont sit squarely in a left/right position. so there are some very GC people on both sides who might be labelled "far right" and that seems weird to me

That's not correct. There are women from both sides of the political spectrum who are GC. For example Kemi Badenoch.

This! 👏👏

This pretty much sums up 'far right' to me too.

Thick as pig shit.

I haven't read the whole thread. I pretty much agree with your OP.

The big problem with the terms left and right in politics is that they're used to describe both economic and social attitudes, and the two don't always align. Originally left meant favouring state intervention in the economy and redsitribution of wealth, and right meant favouring a small state and free market. Because certain social attitudes went along with that much of time, they also became labelled as left and right.

"Far right" seems to be far more a social signifier than an economic one. Most people understand it to be where those social attitudes cross over from being part of a reasoned and moderate debate about how best to run society, into kneejerk, potentially violent divisiveness.

You're right that it's not necessarily far right to believe immigration levels should be lower. However many of the claims about this just don't make sense, and don't stand up to scrutiny when you examine them. In such cases, one can only speculate as to what leads people to believe such unevidenced beliefs, and one obvious factor is racism.

Southport being a case in point, where the alleged perpetrator was a British-born person who happened to be black; false information was spread early about them being a muslim asylum seeker; and before anyone bothered to fact check that information we had riots against mosques. It's like there's a force existing in advance that leads people toward believing certain things and acting in certain ways regardless of the facts. That's far right.

Yes.

Are you aware of the GC movement? They're very left wing.

This whole post is insane 😂
If you haven’t been called a far-right bigot or literal Nazi for declaring women are female, are you even “a bit” GC?

I wouldn’t know, I’m not white.
Still standing on what I said.

I am a biological realist, a bit GC and a total feminist.. Gender Critical Feminism is too far to the left for me.

No one has ever accused me of being far right for my feminist views. Just as no one has ever accused me of being far right because I am white, working class.

Look at the photos from Southport, they are NOT old. I know the narrative is that 'oh it's only the over 60s who support this' but that's just nonsense, and ageist nonsense at that.

Political beliefs tend to be on a spectrum. You could argue that the Rwanda scheme was far right but the Conservatives weren't. So it's perfectly feasible to hold a mixture of views. However the further right you go the less moderate you'd become.

From my reading of what was said, I don’t agree.

But then again, if that is truly the case, you could have just replied to my first comment saying that, rather than accusing me of defending thugs and everything else.

I don’t know how else to say this - I quite simply asked a question regarding something that was said that I considered to be absolute nonsense.

I’m not interested in strawmanning, stirring up trouble, using tactics etc etc whatever else you’ve accused me of. Some of us aren’t chronically online, arguing with others.

I've not read the whole thread, so im sorry if this isnt linked to the current train of thought, but based on the OG post - i've always wondered if we allow the same level of flexibility on political thought as for other issues? Like, i might be considered centrist on some things but quite lefty on others. Can someone be "far right" on some issues but not others? I dont know the answer but would be interested in people's thoughts

I wasn't aware that TRA identity with communism or socialism. I thought they were a bunch of misogynists whose only ideology was erasing women and promoting the Trans agenda at every level.

Do you have any more examples of the damage the far left are currently doing?

Quite. 🙄
Transparent at this point.
Get off a women's forum and get a life.

What about Tommy fucking Robinson? What about Andrew Tate? What about Brian Spencer?

Violent men are the problem and the far right is not the answer. Fuck off.

The diversions on this thread! Right wing racist thugs in London and Southport, so let me bring up Dana Rivers, an obscure transgender murderer in the US.

What does that have to do with the far right exactly?

Noone thinks that. You are strawmanning pp, there is no reason to do that other than to stir up trouble

Exactly

What about Dana Rivers?

I am GC as they come, but just because the far right know what women are, doesn't mean they will treat them better than the far left. Like voting for Trump because he knows what a woman is. Yes, he does. He also knows how to deny them abortions and keep them in the kitchen.

Actually, this is just another trans thing…they would rather side with racists than possibly have anything to do with people who aren’t consumed with all things trans. I did recognise the arguing style actually….taking a sentence in isolation and berating the poster for it.

What about Tara Flick wood?