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To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 18:52

Let’s not make this a Southport thread, just a political one. I consider myself a centrist and voted Lib Dem (to get us back in EU but that’s another story).

There’s been a lot of talk of ‘far right’ on here over the last few days, but very few observations on what far right actually means. To me it means things like capital punishment, enforced religion, open state misogyny, a blanket ban on abortion, homosexuality being outlawed, that sort of thing.

To me, having justified concerns about immigration, having views on new house building, voting Conservative or disapproving of Just Stop Oil protestors doesn’t make you ‘far right’. Centre or right of centre perhaps, but not far right.

What do you think?

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PattyDuckface · 01/08/2024 19:21

"Far right" means nothing to me now, a bit like Nazi. I often think what they really want to say is the "native white working classes".

cardibach · 01/08/2024 19:20

FayeGreener · 01/08/2024 19:09

It’s a meaningless phrase these days and basically means “anyone who believes things I don’t agree with”.

Well this is nonsense. Nobody disagreeing with, for eg, Corbyn woukd call him far right.

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:19

FayeGreener · 01/08/2024 19:17

Yes. And especially if they’re white men. PARTICULARLY if they’re working class white men.

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Hitler is the epitome of far right.

The far right idolise him.

Far right = people who support ideas like his - racist, fascist, authoritarian, violent and power hungry.

Beepbeepz · 01/08/2024 19:19

Look who's high up in the ranks!

To ask what ‘far right’ means to you?
Izzymoon · 01/08/2024 19:19

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:13

I really want to know if only white people can be far right. Anyone?

There are two things, far right of the political spectrum which will differ country to country. So of course people of colour can be right leaning and even far right, although usually in less numbers as right wing generally means anti immigration. Then there is what is referred to as ‘the far right’ which generally refers to the far right of the political west, so typically white, anti immigration, anti cultural mixing, traditional gender stereotypes, anti gay and on the extreme end neonazi sympathising.

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:19

Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:15

I don’t think that’s the case, just that’s the flavour of ‘far right’ we are used to as we live in the UK. I expect travel to one of many other countries would change their minds.

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OP, I think you are looking at it objectively - to describe politics. People on this thread who are more confident about what and whom they consider ‘far right’ seem to suggest it is something different.

kirbykirby · 01/08/2024 19:18

It's now used as a smear to tar all of the white working class and try and shut them up.

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:18

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:17

Your posts are really not as clever as you think they are.

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Then no doubt you’ll be able to answer them?

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Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:17

Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:17

I haven’t mentioned them at all. I want to hear what constitutes far right in the minds of posters here. To me it’s far wider than ‘white and BNP’ (although yes that fits as well). It’s just interesting seeing the mental gymnastics done to avoid discussing the potential of far right in one of the many other much more conservative countries than the UK.

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Your posts are really not as clever as you think they are.

Psychoticbreak · 01/08/2024 19:17

Uneducated, closed minded people usually conspiracy theorists with closed minds and wide open mouths.

FayeGreener · 01/08/2024 19:17

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:13

I really want to know if only white people can be far right. Anyone?

Yes. And especially if they’re white men. PARTICULARLY if they’re working class white men.

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:17

Izzymoon · 01/08/2024 19:15

It’s an odd topic, because you say you don’t want to make it about Southport but the comments regarding “the far right” in recent days have been about the violence in Southport.
So are you saying it’s being banded about too easily, and these men, spurred on by Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate on twitter, are in fact not far right to you but have justified concerns?

I haven’t mentioned them at all. I want to hear what constitutes far right in the minds of posters here. To me it’s far wider than ‘white and BNP’ (although yes that fits as well). It’s just interesting seeing the mental gymnastics done to avoid discussing the potential of far right in one of the many other much more conservative countries than the UK.

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Differentstarts · 01/08/2024 19:17

lilyrabbit2 · 01/08/2024 18:56

I know you said not to mention Southport but those rioters epitomise far right for me. Thick, white, middle aged, small minded men who can't tolerate or understand anything other than their own narrow views. Hence why they also hate homosexuality and women. And why they go abroad to order full English breakfasts and pints of John smiths. To me it's pure ignorance teamed with aggression. If they don't want to learn about other ways of life, fine. But they actively try to violently abolish them.

I disagree I don't think any of them where rioting for any reason other then to be violent,abusive and to destroy property and maybe to get at the police. I don't believe for one second they gave a shit about them little girls. The same as all the people who went down there to film tiktoks and spent the whole time saying tap the screen share the live and then saying to their mates all excited iv got 5k watching. It's all sick. If you truly believed something why would you think I know il go set a police car on fire. This is not political its the dregs of society looking for an excuse to cause damage. I would actually bet the majority of them have never even voted

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:16

Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:14

According to the dictionary far right just means the extreme end of right wing. Right wing is defined as:

the section of a political party or system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favours socially traditional ideas; the conservative group or section.

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Do you really think we're this stupid?

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:15

Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:12

You’ve lost the plot.

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Great comeback.

I've seen your posts on here. Constantly barking up those racist dog whistles

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:15

justfornow1 · 01/08/2024 19:15

Op, what's your point? You seem to be trying to shut anyone down who had the (rightly so) view of the far right being white supremacist racists, mob like to their "leaders" misogynistic, yobs.

So do you think only white people can be far right?

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:15

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:13

I really want to know if only white people can be far right. Anyone?

I don’t think that’s the case, just that’s the flavour of ‘far right’ we are used to as we live in the UK. I expect travel to one of many other countries would change their minds.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 01/08/2024 19:15

TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:13

I really want to know if only white people can be far right. Anyone?

No. As previously stated, the government of Saudi Arabia are far right, as are others like Modi in India.

Izzymoon · 01/08/2024 19:15

It’s an odd topic, because you say you don’t want to make it about Southport but the comments regarding “the far right” in recent days have been about the violence in Southport.
So are you saying it’s being banded about too easily, and these men, spurred on by Tommy Robinson and Andrew Tate on twitter, are in fact not far right to you but have justified concerns?

justfornow1 · 01/08/2024 19:15

Op, what's your point? You seem to be trying to shut anyone down who had the (rightly so) view of the far right being white supremacist racists, mob like to their "leaders" misogynistic, yobs.

SpinyNorma · 01/08/2024 19:14

Honestly I am not sure it really means anything anymore. It used to but now it's just one of those words that gets thrown around arbitrarily. See also - far left, woke, socialist, liberal, fascist et al.

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:14

Flibflobflibflob · 01/08/2024 19:10

I wonder if death penalty is more about authoritarian states rather than just far right states. Singapore has the death penalty.

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According to the dictionary far right just means the extreme end of right wing. Right wing is defined as:

the section of a political party or system that advocates free enterprise and private ownership, and typically favours socially traditional ideas; the conservative group or section.

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TomDaleysShavedBalls · 01/08/2024 19:13

I really want to know if only white people can be far right. Anyone?

FayeGreener · 01/08/2024 19:13

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:10

Wrong but I suspect you have been called it before...

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Wrong. Nobody has ever referred to me as “far right”.

It’s a ridiculously-misused term. If Jordan Peterson is “far right” then what was Hitler? Far far right? Super-far Right?

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Rainbowsponge · 01/08/2024 19:12

Begsthequestion · 01/08/2024 19:11

Op constantly defends the far right anti immigrant stance they have

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You’ve lost the plot.

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