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To be annoyed at people who turn off 'read' receipts on WhatsApp?

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PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 10:54

So basically you will never get blue ticks from them.

I know a few people who do this and it really annoys me because I now assume they've seen it but don't rant to reply. I keep my ticks on because sometimes I'm not able to check my phone frequently. I'd rather someone know I haven't seen their message yet, not that I'm ignoring them, or maybe I have seen it and just forgotten to reply - so they can prompt me.

I find it weirdly controlling that someone doesn't want me know they've read my message. Of course, you don't know when an email has been read, or a phone message listened to, but WhatsApp has that function which I think is great.

If you're someone who turns off the blue ticks, can you tell me why...

OP posts:
SamW98 · 02/08/2024 18:50

DoopSnoggySnogg · 01/08/2024 11:03

It’s none of anyone’s business whether I’ve read their message or not! Same with people obsessively checking when someone was last active on WhatsApp. Hate all these stalker-like functions of social media/messaging.

Yep this. It’s absolutely no one’s business when I’ve read their message, how long ago I was online etc. it won’t make me answer any quicker - I’ll reply when I’m ready!

I’ve always had all my settings as private. I don’t care what time someone read my message so why do they care when I read theirs? 🤷‍♀️

Clocksgobackautumngirl · 02/08/2024 18:49

ImNotThereAmI · 01/08/2024 10:58

You say you think it’s weirdly controlling when someone doesn’t want you to see if they’ve read it. Have you ever thought that it might be seen as controlling to want to force someone to tell you they’ve read it?

This! I’ve never had the blue ticks. I think it’s so weird.

Gogogo12345 · 02/08/2024 18:47

Lovely13 · 02/08/2024 18:24

Not a fan of the assumption that you have to reply to a phone call, message etc. It’s a choice.

This. Hence why I'm confused about why people turn of read receipts (although until this thread i didn't actually know you could lol)

Lovely13 · 02/08/2024 18:24

Not a fan of the assumption that you have to reply to a phone call, message etc. It’s a choice.

SallyWD · 02/08/2024 11:55

I haven't done this but completely understand why people do. These days you're expected to be at people's call 24/7. If someone sees the blue ticks they expect an immediate response.

MokaEfti · 02/08/2024 10:39

It will be "last cleaned the kitchen sink" or "last took a shit" next - fuck off Big Brother

Ranting over (I'm projecting)

MokaEfti · 02/08/2024 10:37

And my "last online" is definitely OFF. A friend asked what I was doing at 5am once. Fuck right off!!!! I discovered last online can be switched off and did it straightaway - the cheek of it! And I'm not remotely interested in when someone else was "last online".

MokaEfti · 02/08/2024 10:33

I keep mine on because I want to know my children have seen my messages. It's often about collecting from railway stations and if they've not seen it I will call them!

However several of my contacts have theirs turned off. I quite like this because I know that it works both ways, and they won't see if I've read their message yet either.... I quite like it when I add a new contact and they have blue ticks set to OFF.

MyBirthdayMonth · 02/08/2024 10:33

AtomicPumpkin · 02/08/2024 10:20

There is obviously a divide between those who can cope with uncertainty and those who can't.

Well, exactly, and the second group are unlikely to have happy relationships or happy lives.

ItsAlrightDarling · 02/08/2024 10:26

AtomicPumpkin · 02/08/2024 10:20

There is obviously a divide between those who can cope with uncertainty and those who can't.

That is something that has come along with modern technology though. 80 years ago people would have had to ‘cope with uncertainty’ as there would have been no way of knowing if someone had received your letter, for example, unless they decided to reply.

Bouliegirl · 02/08/2024 10:24

AtomicPumpkin · 02/08/2024 10:20

There is obviously a divide between those who can cope with uncertainty and those who can't.

this reminds me of the idea of being in a relationship with someone that tries to control you

AtomicPumpkin · 02/08/2024 10:20

There is obviously a divide between those who can cope with uncertainty and those who can't.

TheHorneSection · 02/08/2024 10:08

A colleague of mine, who is pretty useless anyway, has turned off the read receipt thingy in Teams which drives me nuts. She’s bad enough at replying to important messages anyway, now I don’t even know if she’s read them!

velvetcoat · 02/08/2024 09:55

MyBirthdayMonth · 02/08/2024 09:51

But if your friend in another country did, as you put it, drop dead-what exactly could you do about it?

Edited

I agree - this is a weird thing to think. It's very rare to just drop dead and why on earth would you assume that just because someone hasn't read your message they must be dead? arent they allowed to be just busy?

MyBirthdayMonth · 02/08/2024 09:51

RogueFemale · 01/08/2024 22:10

I'm in Team OP. I want and sometimes need to know when someone has read my WhatsApp message. I need to know when it's a work thing so that I can phone instead. Sometimes the 'last online' thing is helpful when you're worried a friend might have dropped dead (living alone / in another country).

It's not about controlling these people. It's like saying you're controlling to want to know when your tracked Royal Mail parcel was delivered. Do the recipients of the parcels object to this?

I can understand people not wanting these WhatsApp features, but wonder why they'd use WA when they don't want the features - features which I consider to be benefits.

But if your friend in another country did, as you put it, drop dead-what exactly could you do about it?

WindsurfingDreams · 02/08/2024 09:41

RogueFemale · 01/08/2024 22:10

I'm in Team OP. I want and sometimes need to know when someone has read my WhatsApp message. I need to know when it's a work thing so that I can phone instead. Sometimes the 'last online' thing is helpful when you're worried a friend might have dropped dead (living alone / in another country).

It's not about controlling these people. It's like saying you're controlling to want to know when your tracked Royal Mail parcel was delivered. Do the recipients of the parcels object to this?

I can understand people not wanting these WhatsApp features, but wonder why they'd use WA when they don't want the features - features which I consider to be benefits.

It's for your friends who live alone to worry about that, not you.

ArcaneSquiggle · 02/08/2024 08:23

“I want and sometimes need to know when someone has read my WhatsApp message. I need to know when it's a work thing so that I can phone instead. Sometimes the 'last online' thing is helpful when you're worried a friend might have dropped dead (living alone / in another country)."

As others have said, blue ticks just mean the message has been opened, they don’t guarantee it’s been read. People can click on a message by accident, desktop apps can mark messages as read when the recipient isn’t even in the building.
You could ask people to acknowledge messages, if it’s important, rather than monitoring their activity and coming to (possibly incorrect) conclusions based on blue ticks or their ‘last seen’ time.

“It's not about controlling these people. It's like saying you're controlling to want to know when your tracked Royal Mail parcel was delivered. Do the recipients of the parcels object to this?”

Royal Mail telling you your parcel has been delivered is the equivalent of two grey ticks. You know their phone is on, they have signal, and the message has arrived.
I don’t object to that.
I would object to a tracking service that automatically notifies the sender as soon as I start to open the parcel, though.

I turned my read receipts, last seen and online status off one day when I was very busy, but one of my children was messaging about something important to them. While dealing with that, I had a message from a friend asking why I hadn’t looked at what she’d sent hours earlier, pointing out that I was “constantly online”. I didn’t have time to chat, I had to prioritise what I was doing, but seeing I was online and not communicating led to her feeling like I was ignoring her.
The ability to track my activity felt intrusive, and was causing unnecessary stress that could easily be avoided by changing a couple of settings.

Nobody needs to know when I’m engaged in conversation with other people, when I've clicked on a message, or when I last opened an app. It seems removing the option for people to monitor when I’ve looked at my phone is considered weirdly controlling and secretive (or, my personal favourite, demonstrates “a lack of confidence or a manipulative personality”) by some on here though 🤷‍♀️

Enchanted82 · 02/08/2024 05:29

I agree it’s a controlling mechanism and a way for some people to ‘keep tabs’ on others which is unacceptable! I turned mine off because family members with nothing better to do were just stalking me!

tigger1001 · 02/08/2024 03:53

"can understand people not wanting these WhatsApp features, but wonder why they'd use WA when they don't want the features - features which I consider to be benefits."

you consider them benefits - but not everyone does. I don't. I see these features as a sign of the stress of modern times. People expect instant responses these days and get so worked up when they know someone has read a message but not responded to it. Rather than just waiting for a response.

Personally I only use WhatsApp if that's the preferred communication method for others. It is good for group stuff. But one to one, I would still use text.

ItsAlrightDarling · 01/08/2024 22:36

I can understand people not wanting these WhatsApp features, but wonder why they'd use WA when they don't want the features

I use WA mainly because that’s what others use. It would be weird if someone whatsapped me and I replied via text message, wouldn’t it? Also when friends set up groups they tend to be on WA. It’s a free messaging service 🤷🏻‍♀️, I couldn’t care less about its other features.

EmeraldRoulette · 01/08/2024 22:26

@RogueFemale I only started using it because of mum‘s neighbours helping her out. It meant that we communicate with each other across the group. It’s good for groups generally.

I would have preferred that friends continue to text, but they wanted to use WhatsApp. No one has ever objected to not seeing the blue tick though.

I also discovered it copes quite well with large file sizes.

But generally, I thought the popularity of WhatsApp started with the fact that it was Internet based. No charges for calling or messaging from abroad etc

Vettrianofan · 01/08/2024 22:19

Imisscoffee2021 · 01/08/2024 14:46

I turned mine off because my mum will badger me if she sees I've seen a message and not immediately replied. In doing so it applies to everyone in my contacts but that's the price they pay for my mums poor impulse control and lack of patience😅 it also means I can't see read receipts either.

My DM is like that too🤣

PurpleDiva22 · 01/08/2024 22:15

@RogueFemale a royal mail tracked parcel is the equivalent of TWO GREY TICKS which means the message has delivered to the person!! It is NOT the same as two blue ticks, which would be knowing that someone has taken the parcel in their hands, opened it and looked at whatever is inside!!!

RogueFemale · 01/08/2024 22:10

PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 18:11

OK, so I made assumptions based on where I was coming from.

But most of you have been just as bad, assuming things of me.

I do not want a time stamp on when my message was read. I'm not expecting a reply most of the time. I'm not trying to control anyone. I just want to know my message has been seen! And I found it weirdly secretive because I didn't understand. But I have revised my opinion after helpful posters. Be nice if some of you could. Then again, it's AIBU!

I'm in Team OP. I want and sometimes need to know when someone has read my WhatsApp message. I need to know when it's a work thing so that I can phone instead. Sometimes the 'last online' thing is helpful when you're worried a friend might have dropped dead (living alone / in another country).

It's not about controlling these people. It's like saying you're controlling to want to know when your tracked Royal Mail parcel was delivered. Do the recipients of the parcels object to this?

I can understand people not wanting these WhatsApp features, but wonder why they'd use WA when they don't want the features - features which I consider to be benefits.

jolies1 · 01/08/2024 22:09

PrincessOfPreschool · 01/08/2024 10:54

So basically you will never get blue ticks from them.

I know a few people who do this and it really annoys me because I now assume they've seen it but don't rant to reply. I keep my ticks on because sometimes I'm not able to check my phone frequently. I'd rather someone know I haven't seen their message yet, not that I'm ignoring them, or maybe I have seen it and just forgotten to reply - so they can prompt me.

I find it weirdly controlling that someone doesn't want me know they've read my message. Of course, you don't know when an email has been read, or a phone message listened to, but WhatsApp has that function which I think is great.

If you're someone who turns off the blue ticks, can you tell me why...

Tbf I did this in my previous job where personal time was not respected - I would be messaged constantly on days off, when I was busy, at home etc - I would glance at a message to see if it was something urgent.

If I didn’t reply immediately would then be hassled with follow-up messages “can you reply to my holiday request I sent you fifteen mins ago for my trip to Tenerife in 2026.” Etc. My line manager was also notoriously bad for expecting responses whenever they sent a message - they didn’t need to know I had seen her text at 11.30pm but had decided it was perfectly reasonable not to respond.

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