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MIL massive stroke 3 days before holiday

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NoSourDough · 01/08/2024 08:35

We are due to fly to Greece tomorrow evening.

MIL (79) had a serious (second) stroke on Tuesday morning. The first one was 2 years ago, she has been bed ridden since that first one with limited speech and mobility.

We saw her Sunday morning and she was fine (she was still living at home with my BIL and carers coming in 4 times a day) but sadly had another stroke on Tuesday.

Shes in hospital and unresponsive, consultant yesterday said it’s doubtful she will come out of hospital. It’s palliative now however a waiting game.

DH morally cannot leave his brother or MIL and come on holiday (understandably). Travel insurance will not cover this third party event (we have checked).

We have a 12 year old DD who has never been on a plane before and has been looking forward to this holiday for months.

DH insists that I should take her whilst he stays here. I feel like MIL could be in this condition for weeks, perhaps he could come but I understand that would be unreasonable. His brother is telling him to come but DH won’t do it.

Should I travel alone for 10 days to Greece with DD? What would you do?

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crumblingschools · 01/08/2024 13:11

My DH will put practical head on when anything like this happens. He would be happier that I would be with DC and doing our thing whilst he got on with sorting out MIL and having the support of BIL.

My MIL would rather DC were having a holiday rather than hovering around her death bed. In fact she would love hearing about the holiday, so if her hearing was still working, a FaceTime from Greece telling her about her day would probably be an option.

SlidingDoors1 · 01/08/2024 13:07

NoSourDough · 01/08/2024 09:10

This is very difficult thing to say but perhaps makes my decision easier (and I didn’t want to speak badly of someone on deaths door) - my MIL was emotionally and mentally abusive to her sons for their entire lives. The fact my DH is being so gracious is testament to his good character.

So to answer the question, what would my MIL say? She would say “don’t go on holiday” she would try to stop us (she always tried to stop us and control us)..for that very reason, I should go shouldn’t I?

it’s awful - but it’s true.

That may be true, but you do not need to use this as a weapon to get back at her - because it wont - - she dont know, she's dying.

How would you feel if your mother was facing death and your OH fucked off on holiday?

The only person you will be hurting is your OH
It is super unsupportive to even be considering this

Youcantcallacatspider · 01/08/2024 13:06

workoutlife · 01/08/2024 13:01

Your children will have many opportunities to go on holidays in the future, but they probably will regret not to say goodbye to their grandmother the last time.

This is a massive assumption. For most families holidays are a massive chunk of their budget. It could be that it will take the family years to save up to go again. On the flip side the child can say goodbye to her grandma before she goes having happy memories of her rather than spending the next however many days visiting her when she's actively dying and possibly not even conscious or aware of her. I wouldn't want any grandchild of mine to see me like this to be really honest

AnonymousBleep · 01/08/2024 13:04

Go, absolutely. I've taken my two abroad on my own several times since they were little.

Sunshineandpool · 01/08/2024 13:04

NoSourDough · 01/08/2024 08:38

Thank you - just to add, how would you feel about travelling alone with a child? We are going to Santorini. Would you feel safe? I’m a little nervous.

You should go. Lots of parents travel alone with their DC. I've done it and it's fine. I'm taking my 2 away on my own later this month. If BIL is ok with your DH going I think he should go too, but it is entirely his decision. But either way you should go and have fun.

BrieHugger · 01/08/2024 13:02

workoutlife · 01/08/2024 13:01

Your children will have many opportunities to go on holidays in the future, but they probably will regret not to say goodbye to their grandmother the last time.

They can say goodbye before they go.

workoutlife · 01/08/2024 13:01

Your children will have many opportunities to go on holidays in the future, but they probably will regret not to say goodbye to their grandmother the last time.

Youcantcallacatspider · 01/08/2024 12:53

I went on a longhaul holiday knowing my granny might well die whilst I was there and she did sadly pass away whilst I was out there. I had a very loving relationship with her. I'm a deeply caring person but also pragmatic. I really wasn't going to change things being there. My dp and I were in no position financially to refund the holiday if we didn't go. My granny was in her 90's being well cared for at my mum and dad's house and Passed away peacefully. I would expect my future grandchildren to do exactly the same in this scenario.

Death is always sad but sometimes it isn't a tragedy and as pp have said you can't put life on hold waiting for death.

I'm sad I wasn't around when my granny died but I don't regret it. If dh has given you his blessing and you think that your dd will be able to relax when she's out there then just go.

pandasorous · 01/08/2024 12:52

NoSourDough · 01/08/2024 08:38

Thank you - just to add, how would you feel about travelling alone with a child? We are going to Santorini. Would you feel safe? I’m a little nervous.

you'll be totally fine

GalileoHumpkins · 01/08/2024 12:49

I wouldn't go, I'd want to be there to support my husband. Losing a parent or waiting for a parent to die is horrendous and going on holiday wouldn't sit right with me.

Mickey79 · 01/08/2024 12:49

I also think you should go, as guided by your DH. People handle these situations differently. There are those who want their partner/spouse there for the emotional support and others who prefer to work through their feelings alone. Neither is wrong.

TinySmol · 01/08/2024 12:45

You should go.
She could survive another long while.
They can stay seriously ill for quite a long time. Deteriorate and rally, deteriorate and rally, on and on.

A relative of mine had a catastrophic stroke last year and the general consensus seems to be that he could live another 10 years.
He'e been watching the Olympics at the moment and some relatives expect him to live far beyond the Brisbane Olympics in 2034.

Cant see it myself - but it seems to be the running consensus.

AskingForAFriend12 · 01/08/2024 12:44

I wouldn't go. I would want to be there to support DH if she dies. But only you know your DH and he copes.

NoTouch · 01/08/2024 12:43

IMustDoMoreExercise · 01/08/2024 11:40

Well, I think the husband should go on holiday as well. His brother has said he should go.

It doesn't matter what you or I think, or even what the OP thinks about whether her dh "should" go on holiday, or the relationship he had with his mum.

Child/parent relationships are complex, and if he feels he wants to/or needs stay for what could be his mums last days, he is the ONLY person who should make that decision and it is not a decision that should be swayed by anyone else's feelings at this time.

Which leaves the only decision is whether the OP feels a jolly is more important than supporting her husband, who has health issues himself, during what will be a very emotional and difficult time for him.

No one, not even the OPs dh knows how he will react/cope if/when his mum dies. My normally stoic dh actually broke down for weeks after losing his cruelly manipulative mother - it was heartbreaking to watch. I actually cannot comprehend how anyone could even consider abandoning a spouse to deal with such a stressful life event themselves for a week in Greece!

WimpoleHat · 01/08/2024 12:42

I couldn’t go away and have ‘fun’ whilst my husband’s heart was about to be broken.

It’s important to remember that people are different, that relationships and families work differently and that sometimes one person’s way of coping wouldn’t work for another. My DH would absolutely prefer to be left to “get on with it” in that situation and would mean it if he said “go without me”. By the sound of it, the OP’s DH is of similar thinking.

Tetchypants · 01/08/2024 12:41

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2024 12:39

I totally disagree with this . Children should not always be the priority. Respect for the mother and seeing her on her journey is surely the priority here

Except a) the mother is unconscious and unaware, and b) was not a particularly pleasant person.

betterangels · 01/08/2024 12:41

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2024 12:39

I totally disagree with this . Children should not always be the priority. Respect for the mother and seeing her on her journey is surely the priority here

She's controlling and abusive. So, no.

SamW98 · 01/08/2024 12:40

Frenchsplit · 01/08/2024 12:27

I think you should all go. Your dd is the priority. Your dh being there will change nothing, and his brother is encouraging him to go.

Totally agree. In the same situation I would put my child’s wishes first in agreement with their father.

The OP says he wants them to go on the holiday- and she knows the family dynamic a lot better than we do.

Frenchsplit · 01/08/2024 12:40

I don’t think I said children should always be the priority? In the circumstances here, that’s my view.

DancingFerret · 01/08/2024 12:40

Most PPs agree you should go with your daughter. I would go further and say all of you should go; your MIL could remain under palliative care for longer than the duration of your holiday and maybe for quite a while afterwards.

Childhood is about memories; it doesn't sound as if your DH has good memories of his own childhood, so perhaps it's reasonable to argue that he shouldn't deprive his daughter of happy memories of her first flight abroad on holiday with both her parents.

Dying with family assembled round your bedside is a romantic notion, and while some grieving children will say they would do it all again, many say it was a drawn out, traumatic experience they'd prefer not to think about at length.

Christine1998 · 01/08/2024 12:40

I would contact the holiday company to postpone till probably next year. It’s worth a try. My holiday company did this for me free of charge when I was diagnosed with breast cancer and hadn’t sorted the insurance as we usually do that just before we go on hols. Even if they did it for a charge it would be worth it for you to be here to support your husband if that is what is best for you both.

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2024 12:39

Frenchsplit · 01/08/2024 12:27

I think you should all go. Your dd is the priority. Your dh being there will change nothing, and his brother is encouraging him to go.

I totally disagree with this . Children should not always be the priority. Respect for the mother and seeing her on her journey is surely the priority here

crochetmonkey74 · 01/08/2024 12:38

I'm really torn on this. Part of me thinks go , but the other part worries about training your DD that she can leave difficult situations. Death is an important part of life and should be marked I think.

YellowAsteroid · 01/08/2024 12:36

Of course your DH has to stay with his mother. And if he doesn’t want or need your support, yes take your DD on holiday.

But be prepared for however you - and your DH - might feel if she dies while you’re away. It might be more complicated than you anticipate.

betterangels · 01/08/2024 12:35

TheSerenePinkOrca · 01/08/2024 09:16

Then your DH should come too.

If needs be he could always fly back if she dies but to be honest it won't change anything so he might as well enjoy quality family time instead.

Agree. This would have been a different thread with this in the OP and not dripfed in. Just go, the both of you.