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mirrensidhe · 2024-07-31T23:24:42+00:00

I can't find the original thread posted here, so sorry to start another. For anyone interested the XY boxer, Imane Khelif is to box tomorrow: Live on Eurosport from 11:20 versus Angela CARINI from Italy. It beggars belief that a genetically determined male gets to box the shit out of a female.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 01/08/2024 15:09

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 08:57

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0731/1462837-explained-the-gender-controversy-miring-womens-olympic-boxing/

I suggest everyone reads this article before getting out the pitchforks.

Why do you think that neither of them appealed the previous decision to ban them? If they are women then of course they should not have been banned from women's competitions.

PetrichorSoul · 01/08/2024 15:05

My heart breaks for the women who have worked so hard to get to these competitions and these cowardly cheating males just sweep the podium.

It's achingly unfair.

timenowplease · 01/08/2024 15:02

"This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors."

Gosh, I wonder what they found?🍆🍆🍆

Nah, I don't wonder. It was peen.

Naunet · 01/08/2024 11:39

And now we have it, the cheating man is through because the Italian had to stop the fight. Fuck the IOC.

Devilsmommy · 01/08/2024 10:36

It's absolutely enraging that in 2024 it's now perfectly legal for a man to beat up a woman 😡

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 01/08/2024 10:34

🏐🏐🥊

AlisonDonut · 01/08/2024 10:30

MysticalLibrarian · 01/08/2024 09:45

What in the actual…these are both men, who are being allowed to box against women in the Olympics. They were already disqualified from the World Championships for failing testosterone tests, yet they’re allowed to punch women in the face now?

Yes. It's called 'inclusion'. Their passports say Female so anything goes.

Appalonia · 01/08/2024 10:28

The ' evidence' is that they have F ( female ) on their passports. What an absolute travesty this is. And there are protests being organised for Friday morning in Paris

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 10:28

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:26

Also whilst the IBA can’t release this man’s medical testing results, he could. This boxer in question could put an end to all of this by sharing his results himself, how strange he hasn’t.

Neither of them followed through on appeals following the IBA's decision either. I wonder why? 🤔

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 10:27

It's very simple, if the IOC is going to discount the evidence from the IBA, then they need to implement their own testing.

In the press conference, the IOC official referenced these men's passports as proof that they are female. But we all know that the sex classification on passports can be changed to create legal fiction (look where that has gotten us 🙄).

So bring back the swab tests that they used to use. They are quick and unobtrusive.

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:26

Also whilst the IBA can’t release this man’s medical testing results, he could. This boxer in question could put an end to all of this by sharing his results himself, how strange he hasn’t.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/08/2024 10:26

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 10:13

Of course it's about evidence. If they are men, of course they shouldn't be allowed to compete. But so far there isn't any.

They are allowed to compete. We aren't allowed to say that they are men.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/08/2024 10:24

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 09:57

Admittedly no, I first read it yesterday and didn't see it updated. I don't see much has changed though - a corrupt organisation that is no longer recognised by the IOC has made a claim for which they are still unwilling to provide any details or evidence.

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The IOC is a corrupt organisation!

The "stunning and brave" narrative about Laurel Hubbard didn't fool anyone so instead of taking a stand for fairness and safety in women's sports their new approach is "we'll let males compete in women's sporting events, even boxing where they could potentially kill their female competitors, but we'll try to ban the global media from saying that these people are male".

Disgusting.

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:21

Also you’ve failed to mention what evidence you’ve seen from the IOC?

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:21

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 10:13

Of course it's about evidence. If they are men, of course they shouldn't be allowed to compete. But so far there isn't any.

Oh, there I was thinking anyone with a working set of eyes can see the first bit of evidence for themselves.

So you’re going to ignore the female boxers who have fought this man and spoken out about it, ignore the IBC because the IOC declare them corrupt, even though the IOC have been pretty corrupt themselves over the years, and ignore your eyes? Interesting.

I guess some people will be getting off on this.

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/08/2024 10:15

I beggars belief in 2024 that anyone, of either sex, gets to beat the shit out of each other.

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 10:13

Of course it's about evidence. If they are men, of course they shouldn't be allowed to compete. But so far there isn't any.

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 10:13

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 09:57

Admittedly no, I first read it yesterday and didn't see it updated. I don't see much has changed though - a corrupt organisation that is no longer recognised by the IOC has made a claim for which they are still unwilling to provide any details or evidence.

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The very odd language is in part due to reporting restrictions from the IOC.

Beefcurtains79 · 01/08/2024 10:10

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:07

Ahh so it’s about evidence? What evidence has the IOC provided to show they’re biologically female then? I assume you hold both to the same standards, right?

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Exactly.

Naunet · 01/08/2024 10:07

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 09:57

Admittedly no, I first read it yesterday and didn't see it updated. I don't see much has changed though - a corrupt organisation that is no longer recognised by the IOC has made a claim for which they are still unwilling to provide any details or evidence.

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Ahh so it’s about evidence? What evidence has the IOC provided to show they’re biologically female then? I assume you hold both to the same standards, right?

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 10:06

Worth reading the reactions to the 'update' from RTE

x.com/rte_primetime/status/1818634329041330217?s=46&t=OKyRO4eweTteo5FEt_J1MQ

KrisAkabusi · 01/08/2024 09:57

Naunet · 01/08/2024 09:03

Have you read the update on that article?

In the hours after this article was first published, the International Boxing Association (IBA) circulated a new public statement to international media. In it, the IBA says the disqualifications of the boxers were based on "recognised testing."
The statement says: "the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but were subject to a separate and recognised test, whereby the specifics remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have competitive advantages over other female competitors."

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Admittedly no, I first read it yesterday and didn't see it updated. I don't see much has changed though - a corrupt organisation that is no longer recognised by the IOC has made a claim for which they are still unwilling to provide any details or evidence.

MysticalLibrarian · 01/08/2024 09:45

What in the actual…these are both men, who are being allowed to box against women in the Olympics. They were already disqualified from the World Championships for failing testosterone tests, yet they’re allowed to punch women in the face now?

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 09:15

Naunet · 01/08/2024 09:13

They’re too cowardly to even own their decision.

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Quite

Naunet · 01/08/2024 09:13

TheKeatingFive · 01/08/2024 09:11

Well now we all know how much the IOC value women in sports.

Btw, they were hoping that by slapping significant restrictions on what could/couldn't be said about the sex of the competitors that they could keep this largely out of the public eye.

They’re too cowardly to even own their decision.