female boxing olympics

A separate category isn't needed. As has been suggested before by many people, the men's category should not exist. The men's category should just be an "open" category, where any human on earth is allowed to compete. The women's category should continue to exist.

It's too much to ask after all they've sacrificed and done to get there, plus they would be likely to lose all their sponsorship for being hateful bigots...and the IOC is so corrupt and misogynistic, it would name the male boxers as the winners and say the women freely chose not to compete.

There's no such thing as intersex. "Intersex" people are all male or female. They just have a variation of development along the sex pathway.

It can occasionally mean their sex is mistaken, but the very fact that it's possible to get sex wrong means it exists...and if primary sexual characteristics are ambiguous, there are further markers that can determine sex without error.

@NonPlayerCharacter I agree, just wondering on what basis they were regarded as "female".

Male DSD, it seems. Certainly not female.

Is Khelif a male with DSD or trans?

I'm so pleased you've posted, I read the other thread - all 1000 posts of it - and wondered to myself where are the usual posters who pop up on FWR to scold women for being unkind? The ones who think males can turn into females and we should all budge up and accept it?

So, tell me, what do you think about males in female sports? Especially contact sports such as boxing?

It is most likely that these are XY (men) with DSDs - difference of Sexual Development that were recorded as female at birth due to ambiguous primary sex characteristics. These conditions used to be referred to as intersex but this term is out dated as we now know that there are male dsds and female dsds and everyone is either one sex or the other, no one produces both sperm and eggs.
At some point during puberty it would have become obvious that they were not developing as expected (they would never have periods, depending on how much testosterone they produced and how their bodies responded to it they may have developed signs of male puberty). This should have triggered investigations that would almost certainly lead to a diagnosis.
Unfortunately there are unscrupulous people who will seak out these cases and push them towards elite sport as they are registered female but with male biological advantage.
The personal nature of the issue means that information is not publicly available and these athletes are referred to as women with naturally high testosterone (see Caster Semenya who was one of three athletes with male DSDs to take an 800m medal in the same race)..

It's not the easy. They've worked their whole lives for this. The IOC need to step up and take responsibility for the shit show they've created.

It’s sickening - the poor Italian boxer.

The women should all withdraw, it's not safe, and it makes a big statement.

The world has gone completely mad. A transwoman can never be a woman. If they want to compete they need their own category.

Found these photos in the Daily Mail:

Ioc

Cancel this event....
we cannot have an Olympic sport of men beating the sh#t out of women period. It is a disgrace.

The Italian was a hard women but took two blows which made her fear for serious injury. One blow was hard enough to dislodge her chinbelt, the other possibly broke her nose. The job are under huge pressure and I would not be surprised if the event was now cancelled in this catgeory. No woman can beat this man and you risk serious injury to female competitors.

The optics are horrendous when governments across the world are acting against vawg.

This is men hitting women publically with no sanction. There will have been a cheering crowd. The woman athlete was hit hard and is possibly traumatised. The gulf in power between men and women is immense.

This needs to stop and the IOC shamed. Only good thing is that the public revulsion may bring the authorities to think again.

This is really hard to fathom.

They may have DSDs (intersex is not the correct term) but they know perfectly well they are men as they were disqualified from the women's competition following testing last year.

What do you think intersex means?

There is no 'middle' sex. No half-and-half. No third sex.

All it means is that a male person or a female person has a rare condition known as DSD.

If you look on the BBC news website they report the story. But say the organisation that banned the trans boxers last year are "Russian lead" and that the sainted ioc are running this competition. They also suggest that the boxer "isn't a big puncher"
You will note they are showing the Italian boxers interview, but nothing of the fight...despite them holding the rights. Nor does it appear on the BBC I player app!
Strange don't you think?

The IOC is a disgrace.

They are men. Clearly, obviously, undeniably …. except for the reporting bans.

They are men.

I don't quite understand this story. Are they men who have pretended to be women in order to further their careers, or are they intersex? Or do we not know because the evidence released publicly doesn't tell us?