shocked my best friend voted Reform

It's not about grudging an elderly person an extra £10 at Christmas. The bonus hasn't gone up in years, has ceased to be as meaningful as it was and in my opinion can be dispensed with.

And I'm a state pension recipient myself.

As i have asked many many times, if he made racist remarks he would have broken the law and been investigated by the police, hence the article said alleged.

When has farage ever been investigated and charged for racial hatred or racist remarks.If they are documented so well and evidenced then obviously he has broken the law and will have been charged or investigated.

Otherwise these allegations have zero meaning. If you feel you have valid evidence and proof he is racist then report him to the authorities and i will welcome seeing the results.

So just to be clear, all the racist remarks Farage has been reported to make, the ones that have been linked to on this thread and reported by multiple news sources, you're saying he was misquoted? Every single time?

What about the comments he's made on the radio, did they get a voice actor to impersonate him?

Pick a quote, any quote, and we can discuss the context.

Most people don't like being misquoted, but it seems some on here see that as evidence, but when its happens to them they don't like it. Funny that 🤔

Most people seem to manage to get through life without dancing so close to overt hate speech don't they?

"coming up short."

I fully agree with you there, I have quoted you in exactly the same way and I now have evidence from your own person that you have admitted you are coming up short.

What was it you said to someone upthread...word salad?

How unfortunate that one man's remarks are so very, very frequently "taken out of context" so as to appear racist. Just trying to imagine any context where those remarks are ok and coming up short.

He's utterly repulsive.

But as he's Nigel's mate I'm sure someone will be along momentarily to tell you that you're slandering Trump and to repeatedly demand you post video links and full transcripts of conversations to prove that he is in fact a creep.

Well he’s a likely narcissist so they hate people joining stuff together like that. You see you are supposed to forget that stuff

Okay thanks for the link.

First of all it's a very bias article but lets that slide and its an opinion piece.
Lets also be clear it is full of words that state alleged, it is also full of snippets of information that have been taken out of context or no full context or commentary given. It would not pass for an unbiased bit of evidence as its just an opinion piece.

The piece also refers to plenty of instances where he is not the issue or was not directly part of the issue take the debanking scandal, or just friends with Trump does that make him guilty of any thing no it does not.

The bit on Russia and Putin has zero content as I know the full story and its a one line quotation from a full dialogue he had when questioned about russia and that quote had been deliberately misrepresented as its taken the one line out of a full discussion.

That's not factual evidence may be you need to learn what factual evidence is, it's certainly not an opinion piece from someone who clearly dislikes him i can get that from here.

1 for effort.

Apropos of this, have you seen Trump complaining like a big baby about a journalist being nasty? He’s such a creep. Apologies for the derail but it was almost funny. In fact it’s scary.

Edit to add the journo was t being nasty. She was just telling him the disgusting words he’d used. He shat the bed at that.

There does seem to be the idea from the op that the decision to grant friendship is with her

Maybe the friend will find out the op has been writing negative mn threads and decide for the op

@SallyWD i think the PP are being goady and feign ignorance, despite the many links in answers, want someone to lose their rag so they can cry about the nasty lib who used bad words towards them.

I think asking your 'friend' why she voted for Reform would tell you more about her views. She might believe that £20,000 is a more appropriate personal tax allowance than £12,570 where there is this stupid charade of low earners paying tax then having some returned to them in tax credits.

Or perhaps that immigration is out of control and that we should limit immigration to what works for us, not the rest of the world. Perhaps she thinks that the current NHS model is unsustainable and needs reform. All pretty reasonable views. I could debate that and have respect for those opinions.

Perhaps she just wants all muslims slung out and foreign languages banned. Very unreasonable. That's just nasty and racist.

Oh I absolutely believe Farage is a misogynist and I’m happy to give direct quotes if anyone was to question me why.
I’d not vote for him based on that alone but I wouldn’t judge a friend if she did. After all, misogyny is pretty rampant across all the main political parties. I’d have a very small friendship group if I was to do that.

I find your response rather rude when I told you I spent significant time copying and pasting individual quotes for you.
I'm most certainly not going to find video links for every remark Nigel Farage has made (I do have a life and have wasted too much time on this already).
Here's a link to an article about Nigel Farage racism and sexism:

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-most-controversial-moments-reform-ukip-brexit-b1122381.html

There are dozens of other articles on racism within Reform for those who wish to Google.

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(still walking away at a faster pace............."are they done yet are they following me".....) 🏃

And we are done. Next

Okay thank you (walks away very slowly.......)

You aren’t very substantial @orchiddottyback

👀Are you okay, do you want me to call someone for you?

Maybe you can explain @orchiddottyback . Start where you were at the beginning of the thread and play your notes again. Points however will only be awarded for new arguments