shocked my best friend voted Reform

Sounds completely depressing to me

Unless there's a back story here this has to be one of the most bonkers things I've read on here. 😂

That's ok, I couldn't defend any of them either.

The secret ballot is a technical feature of democratic societues. But have you not noticed the existence of political parties?

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I made no mention of PIP. Perhaps the Christmas bonus should be reviewed - I wasn't aware of it. I expect it hasn't been increased in ages.

I don't think the WFA should be a universal benefit and that should have been tackled years ago. There might well be grounds for looking at the pension credit threshold and certainly there should be a campaign to ensure that those eligible apply and get it.

People vote for different reasons. I remember growing up one neighbour was Tory and one was labour and both put poster up on their window at election day. Every Sunday for 30 years they had a roast dinner together and enjoyed a game of Scrabble. They both had their own reasons why they voted for who they did and this was the 1980S and 1090s when I knew them. They respected each other and didn't discuss politics. Both sadly died in the mid 90s now. Yabu is what I'm saying. You may not agree with them but it's they right to vote for who them want too.

So do you apply the same logic to people on PIP who get the £10 Christmas bonus or is it just the elderly you would like to see suffer even more, after all a lot of pensioners this year will be struggling to pay their heating bills.

Hmm. Not sure I entirely agree. Its like saying Labour are the party of workshy commie scroungers who want something for nothing, open boarder enthusiasts except for Jews, sorry, zionists who are evil. Those people do exist and gravitate toward Labour and the Greens, possibly that moron Galloway too. But is it fair to characterise Labour voters that way? I don' think so.

Do racists gravitate to Reform? In my experience, yes. But I think many of their voters are natural Tories who became sick of their ineptitude and broken promises, and people who have very real concerns about society working for everybody but them. If you don't listen and address these concerns, their vote will go elsewhere.

So that's a no then you won't answer me either, seems we're at an impass. Tell you what, you tell me what quote you would like to discuss, your so keen give me one.

I didn't say that. Other posters might have. Other posters have also linked to what you have described as "misquotes" taken out of context, so select one and we assess whether or not it is in fact a "misquote".

Its a party for racists and their fellow travellers

You previously described Farage as a man that has spoken and written racist, Islamophobic and xenophobic statements. Yet here we are where are they?

You first, please stop grasping at straws. I have asked plenty of times before you asked me anything. you have refused to provide me anything. So it's about time you did something. Come on were all waiting for you.

Well you described them as "misquotes" and ranted about context, so I think you do accept that they exist.

Oh now you want me to provide evidence of something, no you pick a quote from your imaginary arsenal. You have yet to provide me anything i asked for so you first.

You obviously are grasping on to a I got you, which does not exist. Are you asking to to pick a quote from an opinion piece that had strong bias to farage? or do you want to still provide me evidence of his racist, Islamophobic and xenophobic statements.

You claimed that way way back and still not have provided any proof so you first provide me the proof from previously, then we can hold me at the same scrutiny as yourself or will you now try to squirm out of It again.

I shall invite you again, to pick a quote and we can all explore the context.

What did he e say about maternity leave

Well for any normal person quite possibly they may not, but such a high profile figure who has every word uttered recorded and plastered all over the media, its extremely strange they can come out with racist, Islamophobic and xenophobic statements and not be investigated.

After all its all public knowledge not like someone muttering it in a pub or in a private place.

Same for GB news and Reform they are such public facing organisations surely they will also be immediately investigated and reported it would be wholly strange if they were not.

I know people who voted differently from me…. Thank god we live in a democratic society!!
My ex husband was a good man, fought for our country, worked hard, … he messaged me and revealed he’d voted reform .. He has friends of all nationalities and cultures, worked along side lots of people from the common wealth while in the majesties services… however he was massively against human trafficking and illegal immigration (not to be confused with genuine asylum seekers). I think he agrees with a lot of what Nigel Forage says… believes he’s the one who will deliver on what Brexit was promised to be (but hasn’t been).. etc… the slogans like ‘make Britain great again’… I think some people are just desperate for change..

What he said about maternity leave isn’t wrong, though….

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Your continued insistence that a person cannot possibly be a racist unless they have been investigated and convicted of a criminal offence is utterly baffling.

In the case of the OP she says her friend told her. She seemingly didn't ask.