BBC.. time to call it a day ?

I wasn't challenging you on what to type at all. I merely said:

'You can't speak for everyone by framing your comment as 'WE are incredibly lucky'. Because you can't speak for everyone. Obviously.

Saying 'we' when a lot of 'we' on here simply don't agree isn't innocuous at all - it's literally the sole point of the thread!

You're clearly very passionate about this. Don't work for the BBC do you?

GB news maybe a better fit ? Any proof it’s a government mouthpiece btw ? Possibly since the tories appointed one of their own at the top who also allowed other politically compromised individuals to work in influential positions like the Farage lover who directed Question time.

Admired around the world, some of the best TV going - loads of channels, iPlayer and plenty of radio, brings in loads of revenue and still gives some space for new talent. All that and no adverts. They had no choice but to pay Huw Edwards. He resigned with no payout. As for Saville, everyone knew about Saville, including Thatcher when she gave him a knighthood.

It not only produces world class drama, the kind of drama and documentaries that other channels didn't dare touch, it has produced stuff that changed the law and social attitudes dramas like Cathy Come Home, documentaries like the Attenborough series. And sheer entertainment! Line of Duty, Happy Valley, Dr Who, Peaky Blinders, Killing Eve, Blackadder (remember the final WWI episdoe?) Strictly, Bake Off (started on the BBC and was better on the BBC) to name but a few.

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Being challenged is absolutely fine on 'why' I think it, but not telling someone they categorically cannot phrase their opinion that way. I gave my expanded thoughts on being challenged way back earlier in the thread – couldn't care a jot about that. 'We are incredibly lucky' is not sweeping and bold – it's a big thread, it's four words and it's innocuous. The sole issue is you trying to tell other people how to type – which I'm not entertaining.

Not angry in the slightest.

You can absolutely phrase your opinions however you want. But if you make a bold, sweeping generalisation like 'we are incredibly lucky' to have something when you know so many people disagree, you'll be challenged on it. Simple as that really.

The fact you don't like being challenged on that opinion is neither here nor there.

Get over phrasing my opinions how I want to on an internet forum, when in the comment you're attacking I replied to no one and tagged no one? Yeah, no thanks. Work on on your anger.

Respectfully, get over yourself!

Havent paid the tv tax since it came out about Savile, Glitter, Hall, etc

Sure, as PP have said, many large employers have problematic staff over the years, but this particular employer seems to be a magnet and a haven for absolute wrongens. And every time something else comes out its "Our internal investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing"

The poor mother of that 17 year old kid Edwards was abusing had to go public just to get something done; the BBC knew what was going on for a long time and did nothing, yet again. Same old shit.
And you can bet there'll be yet another internal investigation and no evidence of wrongdoing

Also remember the controversy re kids gender / sexuality lessons on BBC Bitesize, "there are over 100 different genders etc" -theres old threads on here about it.
I'm not funding that shit.

The BBC have lost all credibility in my eyes, I have no respect for them or the bullying tactics they use to try to force people to pay for a service They Do Not Want And Did Not Ask For

All the above aside, I'm not paying £170 a year for a government mouthpiece, boring repeats, and Strictly. They literally have nothing I want so 🤷🏻‍♀️

I'm not going to allow someone to dictate how I phrase my opinions – I will phrase them how I wish to and you'll simply have to find some way of coping with it. Numerous post of this thread have phrased their opinion 'as fact'. A few examples:

The BBC is about the best free educational resource in the world / The BBC is something we should be immensely proud of / their radio content is unparalleled / Their news is hugely biased and has a strong bias towards certain groups / The BBC is excellent, world service and educational output especially.

Unless you care to come at every one of those separate posts for arbitrary phrasing, you can leave me alone – cheers.

I don't feel the same - obviously - which is why you can't speak for everyone by framing your comment as 'WE are incredibly lucky'.

What you mean is: 'I feel very lucky to have the BBC'.

A lot of us don't - and especially don't like paying for it!

BBC's nature documentaries alone make the license fee worth paying.

Apart from their Good Food recipe pages I don't bother with the BBC. I don't find their content entertaining, to be honest.

As to recent scandals I think they haven't really learned from past mistakes & continue to make missteps. I doubt their HR & PR department will improve. Another reason to ignore them, really.

No. You don't need to engage with it if you don't want to (nobody's going to get you for not paying the LF) but I'll take the BBC's output over every other media anyday.

Can I just remind you that the BBC was asked to provide lots of educational resources through the Web pages during covid.

That alone demonstrates why we need a national broadcaster. It's not for the good times its for the bad times. And nobody knows what else could happen.

You sell it you couldn't be sure whos hands it would fall into. The world isn't exactly in a stable position.

You do have that option already.

No need to be so patronising.

Well, you can. Just stop watching terrestrial TV, don’t use iPlayer, and you don’t need to have a tv licence

The BBC can't win, can it?

Either we expect it to compete with commercial channels, which means similiar programs, and similar salaries to those paid in the market place. In which case, people complain that 'their' money is being squandered on celebs appearing in mass market crap.

Or we expect it to make programs that the commercial channels won't make, because there's not enough profit in it. And then people complain that 'their' money is being spent on crap programs that hardly anyone watches.

Me, I loathe Radio 4. I've neverr watched the Olympics. Blue Peter irritated me, even as a child. However I'm quite happy for the BBC to carry on doing that stuff, because there's plenty that the BBC do that I like. Even if the only things the BBC did for me was Match of the Day and re-runs of Whistle Test, I'd think it was worth the money.

Oh, there's the news. I've noticed that the left think it's biased to the right, and the right think it's biased to the left. This is good. It means that both sides feel that they are not being fairly represented by the BBC's news coverage. If both sides thought the BBC was impartial, it would mean that they were happy about how they're portrayed. And we don't want politicians to like how they are covered by the media. That would be most worrying.

You also pay for your broadband rental. £15 to £20 pcm?

Your license fee also pays for all the terrestrial broadcasting infrastructure used by all TV and Radio stations.

If you're going to ditch the BBC because someone trained too hard and was bullied in an ultra competitive field you'd have ban all professional sports, the Olympics, probably most theatre, TV, film etc

I'm not suggesting bullying is good, just that it is endemic across many aspects of life and particularly in elite activities. It's not limited to the BBC.

Anon the DG gives off awful toxic vibes. The moment he tried to scrap cbbc he showed his true colours.

I paused my Netflix for 3 months as there was nothing to watch, I just reinstated it at £10.99 and unfortunately there's still nothing to watch, I'm surprised you think its excellent, it's probably the worst and most expensive of the streamers unless you get the crappy ad version which is cheap but bad. BBC doesn't have ads which I have noticed have been getting longer and longer on the other channels so I have paid to go ad free where I can which makes the streamers quite expensive.

Last paid a TV licence in 2020, no regrets not viewing TV all this time. We don't miss it at all. TV licence tries to convince us to come back - not happening!

I’d go for this

I don't watch any BBC TV.