BBC.. time to call it a day ?

In what way? I don’t think it’s been anti-Israel. I do think it’s shown a Palestinian perspective though (which is, of course, not the same as being anti-Israel).

There is constant government interference though. Lisa Nandy couldn’t resist. She clearly doesn’t understand employment law or just bows to the baying masses. So yet again the bbc is different to other organisations. As an employer it just isn’t. The same laws apply.

What utter bollocks.

I thought in Covid it gave far too much of a free pass to the worst Prime Minister of all time. Indeed never challenged his government enough because of the threats to BBC funding.

I long ago was disillusioned. Celebrity cover up. Appallingly biased during Covid. Even now - where is the commentary about the man punching the woman in the boxing?

and They ruined radio two!

they do not appeal to an angry permenopausal woman who isn’t ultra left

To add, the BBC’s coverage of Gaza has been fucking shockingly anti-Israeli.

The BBC is worth keeping for now, for all the reasons PPs have given.

But its days are numbered.

It’s only said to be right wing by the Corbynite left. Everyone else is either happy with it or thinks it’s left wing, in a metropolitan middle class way. It’s very obviously the TV equivalent of the Guardian (much like C4, to be fair).

The rot started with Blair’s attack on it after the revelations of the ‘dodgy dossier’ disgrace. It was no longer self-governing and confident after that, and fell into a lapdog mentality. When your producers and journalists all live in West London and Islington (or want to), the natural option is to be bien pensant Labour.

The shiny floor, entertainment shows are increasingly unimportant and sport’s an open market.

@mitogoshi Thats annoying us too.

As for local bbc channels. The outcry when the license fee is increased is immense. Politicians continually interfere. Our Sky subscription is way more than BBC. The bbc is short of money. Low hanging fruit is therefore vulnerable.

Should add, we mostly watch BBC (or via iplayer) despite paying for Sky and Netflix. Can't remember the last time I watched Sky before the Olympics (Eurosport has more coverage than the BBC due to the ioc not awarding free to air national television stations full rights, so wrong!)

No, the bbc did what they had to, kept it confidential. Until he was charged no crime was on record and he resigned (in April) before he was charged in June. They had to follow their standard employment contracts like anyone else off on sick leave.

Many organisations, public and private sector will be dealing with employees that have committed crimes and they too have to follow employment contract law.

And btw, bbc news is editorially independent and they did not know about this at all. Clive Myrie looked a bit confused, ashamed and annoyed - wondering how a former colleague he respected could have done this no doubt. One bbc news journalist speaking confidently said the most upsetting this was he socialised with their family including small children, must be awful. BBC news was reporting in full as soon as it was known to them

The only people who’ll benefit from the demise of the BBC will be streaming services who’d immediately push up prices even further, and Lachlan Murdoch, son ov Rupert who’s poised to take over, and is the driving force behind America’s Fox News.

And as I have said, I don't care about being challenged on the opinion. I engaged with it perfectly politely earlier in the thread with no issues whatsoever. I am not going to be told how to word my opinions. Please leave me alone now.

And, as I've said multiple times, you can phrase opinions how you like. This is true.

But if people disagree with those opinions, you can expect to be challenged. Also true.

Enjoy your day.

No. Any large entity with a staff made up of humans is going to include some flawed individuals. We aren't going to abolish schools because a tiny percentage of staff are predators and we aren't going to abandon the NHS because it once employed Lucy Letby. Occasionally, things will happen that upset us, but we can't just salt the earth so nothing can ever grow again every time we find a worm.

Yes, you've said that several times. I KNOW. I am still not going to alter phrasing my opinions to please one person on an internet forum. Are we clear? Good.

I took issue with the sweeping generalisation that: 'WE are incredibly lucky' to have the BBC.'

I don't think we are and nor do others.

So since you can't speak for everyone, I suggested what you meant was: I think we are lucky.'

Big difference.

They cut local radio and continue to do so.
They gave no care to staff and listeners.
They asked nobody and took an axe to it.

They didn't. Listen to mps, they don't care about people who rely on local radio. They don't understand local radio.

It's not gone away. Thankfully people are still protesting.

You can. Dump the tv, it’s all mindless shit.

Who said I watch the news? Funny how you assume I must be some kind of far-right gammon just for disliking the BBC and its assortment of noncey employees

You just answered your own question re govt mouthpiece

Nope. Two of my posts on here have been about the BBC – one of which actually contained a criticism. The other four have been in reply to you, attempting to dictate how I phrase my opinions. If you want to call me passionate in the face of a pedantic obsession over four words, then yep – have a field day with that, I guess.

That's how we feel about it too. I hardly listen to BBC Sounds app. Only occasionally.

The BBC is cheaper than a load of streaming. I still like the model of the BBC and it will cost us as a country to lose it. I’m firmly with @Technonan . We don’t watch any streaming at all other than sport. Sadly the bbc doesn’t show what we like any more. What the BBC does give is better all round programming. Its news is reliable and its big occasion coverage is first class.

The big issue is that it’s a political football. It costs around the price of a decent coffee in Starbucks, yet everyone moans. Mainly because they pay for loads of other channels. The idea of not having the bbc is appalling.

Neither do we. Stopped paying the license fee years ago.

Greedy, corrupt corporation; don't care how good their radio is.
We watch the streaming services that we choose to watch and pay for.