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Clare’s law disclosure

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Rachellilllian · 31/07/2024 17:08

I recently started seeing a guy and heard a rumour he may have hit an ex girlfriend. I did question him about it and he obviously lied, but I knew something felt off so I made an application to Clare’s law and they called me the same day with information that he is a serial domestic abuser. Clearly I need to end things but I don’t know how to navigate this. We are booked to go on holiday in a few days? Any suggestions would be appreciated

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Normallynumb · 31/07/2024 23:08

Back away slowly.. Do NOT tell him you know
Stay safe

Sarahslaw · 31/07/2024 23:04

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:40

Are you sure the OP is not allowed to disclose that she has done a Claires law request?

Edited

I’m pretty sure she can, but she cannot tell anyone what was actually disclosed.

BrendaSmall · 31/07/2024 22:53

Hopefully he hasn’t got a key to your home?
if so, get locks changed ASAP

AlarminglyAwful · 31/07/2024 22:36

longapple · 31/07/2024 18:03

you've just gone down with d and v, can't be away from the toilet. Best if he goes on the holiday on his own and has a nice time while you change your locks, install cameras and remove him from your life recover

This is what I’d do if possible. It is not worth confronting a man with form for violence.

RedditFinder · 31/07/2024 22:32

WatchMyChops · 31/07/2024 21:47

Is that even possible?

I don’t mean the Claire’s law, but whoever piqued OP’s initial curiosity. He might threaten them or something.

Colinthecaterpillarstrikesagain · 31/07/2024 22:21

MsCactus · 31/07/2024 22:16

I'd honestly try to let him down as gently as possible... You realised you fancy women? You're grieving over something/someone and not ready for a serious relationship? You've been diagnosed with an illness and not in the right place to date? He's amazing but it's just not the right time for you

Any excuse you can think of that won't rile him up. Then I'd get yourself somewhere safe - you want to end it with as minimal drama as possible.

This is probably the route although he will possibly contact you to see how you're getting or or if you want to meet for a coffee. If you have the money, I'd offer to repay his portion of the holiday. You shouldn't have to but it might stop him getting angry about it either now or a few months down the line when he has too much to drink or something else in his life has gone pear shaped and coming looking for you. (I don't mean to worry you but some guys can be very hard to get rid of).

MsCactus · 31/07/2024 22:20

ChristmasCwtch · 31/07/2024 21:00

You need to disengage safely and that means not confronting him. He needs to be the one who gets disinterested.

In your shoes I would invent a chronic case of diarrhoea (can’t leave the apartment, he goes alone), say you’re seeing the GP, then consultant gastroenterologist for tests, then talk about awful outcomes. Be unattractive.

Don’t engage him in the truth. He’s dangerous.

I also think feigning illness (or even chronic illness/can't cope with relationship too etc) is a safe way out of this.

I don't usually advocate lying but honestly I think your safety is more important here.

And to the posters who say threaten him with the police - when have the police ever done anything? This is terrible advice when dealing with a violent man imo. You're not gonna get 24 hour police protection...

bonzaitree · 31/07/2024 22:19

NotSoHotMess24 · 31/07/2024 21:32

I'd make sure your work, friends, family etc are very aware of the situation too, in case he tries to get to you through them, for example by "surprising you with lunch" at work or similar.

Sorry you are going through this OP, it sounds scary and I'm not surprised you are feeling angry x

Good plan to tell your boss at work. Then he can’t leave messages flowers show up etc.

YellowTassels · 31/07/2024 22:19

Woman’s aid can help you with an exit plan.

Blugh · 31/07/2024 22:18

First time my partner who I only later found out to be a serial DV perpetrator attacked me was on holiday as I’m pretty sure he knew I was so isolated.

Nn9011 · 31/07/2024 22:17

Do not go on holiday and do not tell him what you know. I'm sure it was scary to hear but the worst thing to do is confront him. I would just say you've realised you're not in a place to be dating and you need to end the relationship. Allow him to reply once or twice and then block on everything. Tell someone you trust who can check in on you every now and then.
You may also want to consider breaking up in public or through phonecall/text.

MsCactus · 31/07/2024 22:16

I'd honestly try to let him down as gently as possible... You realised you fancy women? You're grieving over something/someone and not ready for a serious relationship? You've been diagnosed with an illness and not in the right place to date? He's amazing but it's just not the right time for you

Any excuse you can think of that won't rile him up. Then I'd get yourself somewhere safe - you want to end it with as minimal drama as possible.

Noseybookworm · 31/07/2024 22:12

Did the police say if he has a history of stalking/harassment of former partners? Do you have a male friend who would come and stay at yours for a few days as moral support? I would finish it over the phone and then block him. You don't have to say what you've found out but if you've questioned him already he'll probably have a fair idea of the reason. If you're at all concerned about his reaction, phone the police. Given his record, they will take it seriously.

autienotnaughty · 31/07/2024 22:07

I bc would either tell him in a public place like a cafe with a friend or family member nearby. Or over the phone. Don't tell him what you know just apologise and say it's not working for you anymore

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 31/07/2024 22:04

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:59

I think perhaps there’s a difference between saying you have had a disclosure and detailing what you found out.

in the same way, you can say you are going to the family court, but you are not allowed to discuss the details of the proceedings.
Anyway, it looks like the OP would be best off discussing with police if she wanted to do that.

if he is really likely to be convinced by her saying it’s not you, it’s me then that’s probably a good way to go. She will have an idea if it’s likely to work. Like others have said, she could always try it and then escalate if necessary

good luck OP x

No it isn't the same. Saying you're going to family court isn't a problem. Anyone can end up there.

Saying you've had a disclosure is disclosing that there was something to disclose.

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:59

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 31/07/2024 21:48

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/ClaresLaw/third-party-request

The after request section. OP would be breaking the law.
"If you receive a disclosure, it should be treated as confidential. It is only being given to you so that you can take steps to protect the potential victim. You must not share this information with anyone else unless you have spoken to the police, or the person who gave you the information, and they have agreed with you that it will be shared.The police may take action against you if the information is disclosed without their consent, which could include civil or criminal proceedings."

I think perhaps there’s a difference between saying you have had a disclosure and detailing what you found out.

in the same way, you can say you are going to the family court, but you are not allowed to discuss the details of the proceedings.
Anyway, it looks like the OP would be best off discussing with police if she wanted to do that.

if he is really likely to be convinced by her saying it’s not you, it’s me then that’s probably a good way to go. She will have an idea if it’s likely to work. Like others have said, she could always try it and then escalate if necessary

good luck OP x

RichmondReader · 31/07/2024 21:54

I would consider the fact that men like him are best appeased. Your priority is a safe exit, not the 'truth' or any big revelation.

I would say that the idea of a holiday together has made you realise that you are just not in the right headspace to be dating and you are sorry but you'd rather back out now than lead him on. This might give you an easy, non-dramatic or inflammatory 'out'.

IF that doesn't work - he starts to pressure you or make you feel uncomfortable, you can then do as advised about (inform him that his reluctance to accept your decision gracefully raised red flags, you ran a check and have logged your position with police and WA etc)..

But I'd definitely try for a low-key exit first.

ItWorriesMeThisKindofThing · 31/07/2024 21:51

In case anyone else is thinking of applying for a disclosure - you are required to keep this confidential, you sign a statement saying so, you can’t just ask for information on anyone (partner or ex partner who is still in your life in some way), and the police will refer you to a local domestic abuse service for advice - in some circs it is the local service or social services who give you the disclosure rather than the police.

also you are unlikely to get a Non molestation order just because he has a history of abusing someone else - but do discuss the situation with the da service or a solicitor

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 31/07/2024 21:48

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:40

Are you sure the OP is not allowed to disclose that she has done a Claires law request?

Edited

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/ClaresLaw/third-party-request

The after request section. OP would be breaking the law.
"If you receive a disclosure, it should be treated as confidential. It is only being given to you so that you can take steps to protect the potential victim. You must not share this information with anyone else unless you have spoken to the police, or the person who gave you the information, and they have agreed with you that it will be shared.The police may take action against you if the information is disclosed without their consent, which could include civil or criminal proceedings."

Clare's Law - Third Party Request | West Yorkshire Police

What is this scheme? The aim of this scheme is to give members of the public a formal mechanism to make enquires about an individual who they are in a relationship with, or who is in a relationship with someone they know, and there is a concern that th...

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/ClaresLaw/third-party-request

MoosakaWithFries · 31/07/2024 21:48

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:40

Are you sure the OP is not allowed to disclose that she has done a Claires law request?

Edited

Prior to having the disclosure you agree that the information is not to be shared by you to anyone else.

WatchMyChops · 31/07/2024 21:47

RedditFinder · 31/07/2024 20:31

Don’t tell him you know. You might leak how you initially found out and he could shut down that source for future women.

Is that even possible?

TeaGinandFags · 31/07/2024 21:44

Do NOT say it's CL disclosure.

Tell him your Granny had a fall then end it once you're away. Tell work so they can keep an eye out for him. Ask the victim support people for a safety alarm and keep your phone charged and on you.

Spend time away if you feel the need and alert police That he took the break up badly.

You should be fine but no harm in taking precautions. Not much has been invested yet.

Cherrysoup · 31/07/2024 21:41

My DH (police) advocates the ‘It’s not you, it’s me’ route whilst also phoning Women’s Aid/police to give them the heads up. He is of the opinion (but could be wrong, although has worked with dv for over 20 years) that quietly ending it is the best way to protect yourself. Confrontation is not his advice.

Donotneedit · 31/07/2024 21:40

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 31/07/2024 21:32

Because she can't actually tell him she has done Clare's law anyway, it's confidential. So all she can do is tell him she knows he hit his ex, he lied and she has told the police she's leaving him. He will summise she didn't believe him, or that she has done clares law and then want to know who reported, what reported x,y,z. None of that protects her. It just makes him paranoid.

Edited

Are you sure the OP is not allowed to disclose that she has done a Claires law request?

NotSoHotMess24 · 31/07/2024 21:32

I'd make sure your work, friends, family etc are very aware of the situation too, in case he tries to get to you through them, for example by "surprising you with lunch" at work or similar.

Sorry you are going through this OP, it sounds scary and I'm not surprised you are feeling angry x

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