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To not know when to just go 'fuck it, sack off the holiday and go home'

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kaleidoscoperuby · 31/07/2024 16:44

We're on a UK holiday and DS14 is just vile. He had no complaints about the planned holiday when it was booked 18 months ago but has been saying recently he didn't want to go. We offered for him to stay with GPs, he said no. He's angry, rude, uncommunicative, storming ahead, tutting, sighing - generally has a face like thunder.

He's autistic but well travelled and we're pretty good at dealing with his needs - was all factored in.

We're away for 10 days with a week to go. I'm just thinking we should go home and be done. But it seems like such a waste. We're many hours from home.

When do you give up and go home? Is that just teaching them that behaving badly = getting what they want?

When do you stop travelling as teens are so vile? We have quite a few abroad trips planned over the next few years but I'm considering cancelling them all but I really love travelling (and we won't be able to leave DS at home for many years due to his needs so no holidays for anyone).

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ODFOx · 05/08/2024 14:03

@kaleidoscoperuby I hope things calmed down and you have had a few good or at least better days.
FWIW, and I know that no two DC are the same, but I hope it helps if I tell you that my DS never remembered the bad things or the falling outs. He's 24 now and can list so many good holiday moments from over the years. That said, his favourite holidays are still crabbing in North Norfolk or Fossil Hunting on the south coast: same holiday homes each time. Same ice cream shop, tea van etc. He does go to other places too and copes, but he doesn't need an accommodation period for those so we can do short breaks, which is nice. I posted last summer about leaving him crabbing on the quay and going for a drive, then coming back to see him dancing on the spot as he pulled in his line.

I hope that you find something equivalent to interest your DS and that he cheers up a bit ( to give you all a break).

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:31

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:26

Yes, I was being patronising, @Milliemoo6 - I thought you needed a taste of your own medicine. And you did make yourself foolish by chiding me, based on only reading one post, when most of us have managed to read all the OP’s posts. If you want to state facts, you ought to be in possession of all of them, not just some of them, surely?

But well done you for being the bigger person 🤣

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:31

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:26

Yes, I was being patronising, @Milliemoo6 - I thought you needed a taste of your own medicine. And you did make yourself foolish by chiding me, based on only reading one post, when most of us have managed to read all the OP’s posts. If you want to state facts, you ought to be in possession of all of them, not just some of them, surely?

I don't feel remotely foolish, thats likely more a reflection of how you're feeling, given you have absolutely no knowledge of me whatsoever. It's rarely possible to be in 'possession of all the facts', this is an Internet forum full of strangers.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:26

Yes, I was being patronising, @Milliemoo6 - I thought you needed a taste of your own medicine. And you did make yourself foolish by chiding me, based on only reading one post, when most of us have managed to read all the OP’s posts. If you want to state facts, you ought to be in possession of all of them, not just some of them, surely?

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:23

I'm not being patronising. I'm stating the facts, you are being condescending and argumentative. Why can't you just drop it?! That comment wasnnt even directed at you! The irony is just too much.

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 13:20

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:14

Thanks for your unwanted opinion. I think the only person that's being patronising is you.

It’s not though is it … all you’re doing is patronising, being condescending and argumentative. Many posters are saying this, why can’t you just drop it? You don’t need the last word after all 🤔

wizzywig · 05/08/2024 13:18

Op thank you so much for your honesty. I totally get the 'misery on holiday' then as soon as they get home or get what they want, they flip a switch and now we're the unreasonable ones for ever bringing up their shitty behaviour

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:14

Thanks for your unwanted opinion. I think the only person that's being patronising is you.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 05/08/2024 13:10

kaleidoscoperuby · 31/07/2024 16:56

There's me and DH and DS. We can't leave him alone in the accommodation really, for an hour at most but no more than that.

He's just decided he didn't want to come and is making sure everyone knows it. He only wants to do things that he wants to do (which is nothing) and massively resents anyone else having a voice or an interest. He's very controlling and rigid generally. Everything is treated with such a scathing look or voice, I'm scared to say anything or do anything incase I poke the beast again.

I just feel really sad about it all. I can't believe I'm actually considering going home and would prefer to be at work ☹️

@Milliemoo6 - if you had read as far as the OP’s second post, you would have seen this, and would not have made yourself look foolish by patronising me.

In case you didn’t know, you can click on “See all” under an OP, and see the OP’s posts. That prevents you missing additional information that might inform your posts.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 13:00

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:59

You are not worth any words of explanation. Hopefully you will be seen for what you are and prevented from going any further.

I have literally no idea what that means. Seen for what I am? What is that? And going further where exactly?

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:59

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:55

Why is it untrue and offensive? Explain. I'd love to hear this.

You are not worth any words of explanation. Hopefully you will be seen for what you are and prevented from going any further.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:55

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:54

@Milliemoo6 and your comment Also, having autism is not the same as being disabled, is untrue and offensive. On that comment alone you should just leave the thread.

Why is it untrue and offensive? Explain. I'd love to hear this.

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:54

@Milliemoo6 and your comment Also, having autism is not the same as being disabled, is untrue and offensive. On that comment alone you should just leave the thread.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:53

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:49

I’m commenting towards you because you are completely derailing the thread just to argue and bicker. There’s really no need … why do you want to continue going on and on and on just to continue fighting with others? Clearly you have something missing in your life that you just need to have the last word on a thread you’re not even interested in 🤷‍♀️

I have nothing missing in my life and it's not about having the last word. I am simply responding to people who are making incorrect accusations towards me. Why are you not also telling them to stop fighting? Why are you adding fuel to the fire by doing the exact same thing? It's not just me 'derailing' the thread is it. Now its also you.

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:49

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:42

It's really interesting that you view it that way. If you had bothered to read all the comments then you would see that no where have I 'attacked' other posters, and the so called 'bickering' is created by multiple people, not just me. One can't bicker with themselves can they. Are you the OP? Do you know them? If not, then your opinion on what is helpful or needed is also irrelevant. What YOU are doing my getting involved in something that is nothing to do with you is turning this into an example of bullying. By commenting when it was totally uneccesary, you are escalating the situation and increasing the level of conflict - how exactly do you think you're helping here?

I’m commenting towards you because you are completely derailing the thread just to argue and bicker. There’s really no need … why do you want to continue going on and on and on just to continue fighting with others? Clearly you have something missing in your life that you just need to have the last word on a thread you’re not even interested in 🤷‍♀️

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:44

Pirateshipmethinks · 05/08/2024 12:37

@Milliemoo6 I'd have given it a rest a lot sooner if you'd actually listen to what people are saying!😉

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Why is it so important to you that a total stranger 'listens' to you? You don't know me. You don't know anything about my life, my background, if I have children, if I am ND or my children are, literally nothing. So just give it a rest. Everything isn't all about you.

664theneighbourofthebeast · 05/08/2024 12:42

Im sorry you're struggling.
Having autistic kids on holiday is a challenge and a half. We managed by having a routine. Every day some parts the same, some parts different.

Typical day was : breakfast, go out and do / see something for 3 hours. Lunch. Two hours to yourself. Swimming. Two hours to yourself. Dinner in our out. Short local walk or games. Quiet time , Bed.
Enough variation to see an area and do things but everybody knowing there's a rest and some decompression time coming up.
We did always have to book somewhere very carefully and it had to have a pool for years because all day out was always too much. And of course your boy will not like the same things as ours did but I think it was the routine and known expectations which made it work.

Some holidays we even ate at the same restaurant every night so it was one less thing to deal with. I know some people wouldn't find it a fab holiday but within that sort of routine we managed two kids in some amazing places.

I really feel for you. Its not easy to have all the burden of expectations on you to make it work x

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:42

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:35

@Milliemoo6 what is wrong with you?? You can’t be bothered to even read all OP’s posts (which is very quick and easy to do), then jump in with stupid irrelevant information because you couldn’t be bothered to do this - then you start attacking other posters 🤷‍♀️ just know when you’re beat and leave the thread. Your constant bickering is not wanted nor helpful to the thread or OP at all.

It's really interesting that you view it that way. If you had bothered to read all the comments then you would see that no where have I 'attacked' other posters, and the so called 'bickering' is created by multiple people, not just me. One can't bicker with themselves can they. Are you the OP? Do you know them? If not, then your opinion on what is helpful or needed is also irrelevant. What YOU are doing my getting involved in something that is nothing to do with you is turning this into an example of bullying. By commenting when it was totally uneccesary, you are escalating the situation and increasing the level of conflict - how exactly do you think you're helping here?

Pirateshipmethinks · 05/08/2024 12:37

@Milliemoo6 I'd have given it a rest a lot sooner if you'd actually listen to what people are saying!😉

frazzledbutcalm · 05/08/2024 12:35

@Milliemoo6 what is wrong with you?? You can’t be bothered to even read all OP’s posts (which is very quick and easy to do), then jump in with stupid irrelevant information because you couldn’t be bothered to do this - then you start attacking other posters 🤷‍♀️ just know when you’re beat and leave the thread. Your constant bickering is not wanted nor helpful to the thread or OP at all.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:26

Useful for you maybe, but I'm not here to make you feel important so just give it a rest with the self-righteousness. If the OP finds my comment helpful then great, if not she's free to totally ignore it, as are you.

Pirateshipmethinks · 05/08/2024 12:23

Useful for you if you'd listen @Milliemoo6, but sadly it seems you won't.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 12:18

Pirateshipmethinks · 05/08/2024 12:14

I didn't miss it, I based my response on the original post, as have most people. Nothing wrong with that.
You're saying you didn't miss OP's further posts but you just decided to ignore them? But why on earth would you do that? Surely, that's a very unhelpful approach to take.

I also didn't miss that the son is autistic or suggest it's not more complicated, of course it is. You'd have to be stupid to think that, and I'm definitely not that.
I didn't say you missed that OP's DS was autistic, I said you ignored it. You didn't address it. You didn't, in fact, suggest it was more a complicated situation when you replied to OP.

I'll refer to my previous point again, which you seem to have missed, if you don't think my comment is useful then just scroll on past, it wasn't meant for you and therefore your thoughts and feelings about it are irrelevant.
No, I didn't miss that (somewhat aggressive) point. I don't want to scroll on though. More useful to give feedback I hope.

Useful for who?! I think the only one funding your obsession with picking apart my comments 'useful' is you. Do you not have any actual real life living to do?

Pirateshipmethinks · 05/08/2024 12:14

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 11:05

I didn't miss it, I based my response on the original post, as have most people. Nothing wrong with that. I also didn't miss that the son is autistic or suggest it's not more complicated, of course it is. You'd have to be stupid to think that, and I'm definitely not that. I'll refer to my previous point again, which you seem to have missed, if you don't think my comment is useful then just scroll on past, it wasn't meant for you and therefore your thoughts and feelings about it are irrelevant.

I didn't miss it, I based my response on the original post, as have most people. Nothing wrong with that.
You're saying you didn't miss OP's further posts but you just decided to ignore them? But why on earth would you do that? Surely, that's a very unhelpful approach to take.

I also didn't miss that the son is autistic or suggest it's not more complicated, of course it is. You'd have to be stupid to think that, and I'm definitely not that.
I didn't say you missed that OP's DS was autistic, I said you ignored it. You didn't address it. You didn't, in fact, suggest it was more a complicated situation when you replied to OP.

I'll refer to my previous point again, which you seem to have missed, if you don't think my comment is useful then just scroll on past, it wasn't meant for you and therefore your thoughts and feelings about it are irrelevant.
No, I didn't miss that (somewhat aggressive) point. I don't want to scroll on though. More useful to give feedback I hope.

Milliemoo6 · 05/08/2024 11:11

Gr33nSpot · 05/08/2024 11:09

No thanks we’ll pull you up on it as we can and posters do all the time when posts are unhelpful and also show ignorance as regards the subject matter of the thread as a whole.

Its a forum.

I really couldn't care less what you think, so you crack on.

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