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Huw Edwards case - the impact on family

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therunningman · 31/07/2024 16:31

Spare a thought for Huw Edwards family today. They must be going through hell and feeling deeply conflicted right now. This is something that will reverberate through their lives for years to come. And being such a public figure, impossible to forget or box away as a "family secret" (yes, every family has them) in the future.

I write from bitter experience. Some years ago my dad was similarly prosecuted and pleaded guilty. Completely out of character and out of the blue. Outcome was some sort of supervision order. No custodial or suspended sentence.

Fast forward today and my wife refuses to have anything to do with my parents, they are persona non grata to her, completely. On the other hand I refused to "cancel" my dad just like that. This has placed a huge strain on our marriage and mental health at times. To compound difficulties my sibling and their partner found a way to forgive. They remain very close to my parents and holiday with them and do all the usual family stuff Christmas etc. regularly. Watching that is very hard for me. (You'll notice I've written parents, yes they remained together.)

It's all too easy to join a braying mob ("peado!") but very very difficult for close family to navigate. There is no right or wrong answer and certainly no guidebook.

I'll leave you then with an open and hypothetical question. Suppose this happened to your father in law, seemingly out of the blue. You have primary school children. How would you react, and what would you expect your wife/husband to do? Really?

There is no greater test of your marriage than that (or indeed your relationship with you in-laws), trust me.

OP posts:
SwingTheMonkey · 31/07/2024 23:19

How anyone could remain in contact with someone who has contributed to the sexual abuse of children, is quite beyond me. It is black and white in this situation. There’s no grey area. You’ve contributed to the lifelong misery of a child, you are no longer part of my life.

Backto03 · 31/07/2024 23:18

You do talk some shite.

Try reading your own comments if you want to read shite @Runnerinthenight

mathanxiety · 31/07/2024 23:16

therunningman · 31/07/2024 21:35

On the contrary. I had no qualms whatsoever about opening this thread, and am not surprised or offended by the tirade of replies (I haven't read them all). Let me be clear, I am no paedophile sympathiser. I choose to continue an "arms length" relationship with my dad, my wife doesn't, and that's fine. My sibling and partner have decided differently and we are not going to let that come between us either. You are free to decide that they are paedophile sympathisers if you wish to, of course.

The point is to highlight the unholy mess that families often have to adjust to and live with, and is forgotten about after the event. Huw Edwards has 5 children (and let's suppose partners). Some of they may want to shun him, some won't, and some will be rowing with their partners soon enough. Who here is to say which of them are right or wrong? They will each react differently and have their reasons.

It's a sad sorry mess for any family to live with, that's all. No guidebook, as I wrote in the OP.

The guidebook is called a moral compass.

You choose based on your moral compass whether to make your feelings on the rape of children known to the pedophile or you choose to play his dysfunctional family game for reasons you should discuss with a therapist.

Copperoliverbear · 31/07/2024 23:15

@woodlanders you have your opinion I have mine, just because you don't agree it doesn't mean I can't disagree.
We in my eyes are weak, we look after these evil people too much, James bulgers killers, got an new identity and money, they took a life the should pay with theirs.
These pedos might not always kill but what they do is just as horrific, In my eyes they don't deserve to live, it's costing us money to keep them in prison a waste of money.
Maybe there wouldn't be so many stabbings if they fought they'd pay with their own lives.

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 23:13

Fairyliz · 31/07/2024 22:35

So you are not replying and not showing any sympathy for the abused children either.
It’s all what about poor me.

You do talk some shite.

mathanxiety · 31/07/2024 23:12

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 21:51

I agree. All of you posters vowing that you would cut the perpetrator off without a second thought, really don't understand the complexities of a situation like this. Thankfully it's one I have never been in but I can spare a little empathy for people caught up in it through no fault of theirs.

@Fairyliz I think you would have to be a very hard person to not see what hell his family must be living through.

These things are as difficult or as complex as you choose to make them.

Backto03 · 31/07/2024 23:12

I would cut contact immediately with anyone who did this. In your wife's position, with you staying in contact, I would divorce you.

SwingTheMonkey · 31/07/2024 22:55

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 31/07/2024 22:30

You made your wife, the one holding the moral compass, the bad guy from the very onset.
Didn’t need to read your second post to know you haven’t any integrity. Lost interest fast.

This isn’t op. This is another paedophile apologist, entirely.

Fairyliz · 31/07/2024 22:35

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 22:15

What a hateful and untrue post!!! Not even going to dignify it by replying!

So you are not replying and not showing any sympathy for the abused children either.
It’s all what about poor me.

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 31/07/2024 22:30

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 22:23

No point in having a discussion with some of you. CBA.

You made your wife, the one holding the moral compass, the bad guy from the very onset.
Didn’t need to read your second post to know you haven’t any integrity. Lost interest fast.

BlackShuck3 · 31/07/2024 22:26

Happy flouncing @therunningman

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:24

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 22:23

No point in having a discussion with some of you. CBA.

Good. Off you go. It's disgusting to justify associating with child sex abusers for any reason. 👋

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 22:23

No point in having a discussion with some of you. CBA.

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:20

RocketPanda · 31/07/2024 22:16

@Runnerinthenight paedophiles should be shunned and ostracised and by associating with them you are clearly supporting their actions because it's not a blip it's who they are as a person. As ingrained as their fingerprints.

This.

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:20

The emotions family or friends feel when they find out someone close to them has viewed this kind of material are complex and deeply traumatic to work through. But removing yourself from that individual is not and should not be something that needs discussed or thought about. It is black and white. anyone who thinks otherwise is a sympathiser in my view, and shame on them for it.

Well said. I can sympathise with family who cut ties and are working through their feelings. It's awful for them. I will never sympathise with family who stick around someone who is interested in children being abused. Anyone who does is fucked up.

RocketPanda · 31/07/2024 22:16

@Runnerinthenight paedophiles should be shunned and ostracised and by associating with them you are clearly supporting their actions because it's not a blip it's who they are as a person. As ingrained as their fingerprints.

batsandeggs · 31/07/2024 22:16

therunningman · 31/07/2024 21:35

On the contrary. I had no qualms whatsoever about opening this thread, and am not surprised or offended by the tirade of replies (I haven't read them all). Let me be clear, I am no paedophile sympathiser. I choose to continue an "arms length" relationship with my dad, my wife doesn't, and that's fine. My sibling and partner have decided differently and we are not going to let that come between us either. You are free to decide that they are paedophile sympathisers if you wish to, of course.

The point is to highlight the unholy mess that families often have to adjust to and live with, and is forgotten about after the event. Huw Edwards has 5 children (and let's suppose partners). Some of they may want to shun him, some won't, and some will be rowing with their partners soon enough. Who here is to say which of them are right or wrong? They will each react differently and have their reasons.

It's a sad sorry mess for any family to live with, that's all. No guidebook, as I wrote in the OP.

who is to say who is right or wrong? oh I don’t know, how about the seven year old who was raped, had that rape recorded and then distributed to scum who get off on it?

That’s the material people like this are viewing. The emotions family or friends feel when they find out someone close to them has viewed this kind of material are complex and deeply traumatic to work through. But removing yourself from that individual is not and should not be something that needs discussed or thought about. It is black and white. anyone who thinks otherwise is a sympathiser in my view, and shame on them for it.

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 22:15

Fairyliz · 31/07/2024 22:07

There are what 60 million people in the Uk I cannot care about all of them.
Even if I did care about them what difference would it make; I don’t know them and they don’t know me.
Stop making excuses for defending a paedo by doing the whole ‘what about the family’. What about the poor abused children they are the ones who deserve my sympathy.

What a hateful and untrue post!!! Not even going to dignify it by replying!

Metagoths · 31/07/2024 22:10

I wouldn't care who it was in my family, I'd cut them off immediately. I doubt I'd ever want to be in the same room again as someone who had been convicted of something so awful. I could never put my children in the position of keeping in touch with a person knowing that someone had willingly viewed pictures of that nature when I have children. It's inconceivable.

noworklifebalance · 31/07/2024 22:09

therunningman · 31/07/2024 21:35

On the contrary. I had no qualms whatsoever about opening this thread, and am not surprised or offended by the tirade of replies (I haven't read them all). Let me be clear, I am no paedophile sympathiser. I choose to continue an "arms length" relationship with my dad, my wife doesn't, and that's fine. My sibling and partner have decided differently and we are not going to let that come between us either. You are free to decide that they are paedophile sympathisers if you wish to, of course.

The point is to highlight the unholy mess that families often have to adjust to and live with, and is forgotten about after the event. Huw Edwards has 5 children (and let's suppose partners). Some of they may want to shun him, some won't, and some will be rowing with their partners soon enough. Who here is to say which of them are right or wrong? They will each react differently and have their reasons.

It's a sad sorry mess for any family to live with, that's all. No guidebook, as I wrote in the OP.

Oh there is absolutely a right and wrong. I have no doubt his wife, children, close family and friends are reeling and most likely cannot believe that this once revered man has such a dark side. I have every sympathy for them. His wife is divorcing him, I believe.
However, just a split second of thought for the children being raped in the video removes all doubt. Unthinkable.
And if you have children or are close to children that similar ages to those in the photos and videos…it makes me feel sick.
Enjoying holidays together, Christmases, sharing a bed with him. Incomprehensible.

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:09

People really need to think what these sickos are doing, what they're looking at, what they're getting off on...children being sexually abused. Anyone that has any sympathy for them are sick in the head. I can have sympathy for a family losing the person they thought their husband, brother, father etc was, but I have no sympathy at all for those who keep in contact, or worse still, like OP, keeps in contact and tries to gain sympathy. It's sick.

Fairyliz · 31/07/2024 22:07

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 21:51

I agree. All of you posters vowing that you would cut the perpetrator off without a second thought, really don't understand the complexities of a situation like this. Thankfully it's one I have never been in but I can spare a little empathy for people caught up in it through no fault of theirs.

@Fairyliz I think you would have to be a very hard person to not see what hell his family must be living through.

There are what 60 million people in the Uk I cannot care about all of them.
Even if I did care about them what difference would it make; I don’t know them and they don’t know me.
Stop making excuses for defending a paedo by doing the whole ‘what about the family’. What about the poor abused children they are the ones who deserve my sympathy.

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:04

I agree. All of you posters vowing that you would cut the perpetrator off without a second thought, really don't understand the complexities of a situation like this. Thankfully it's one I have never been in but I can spare a little empathy for people caught up in it through no fault of theirs.

Then it's you who doesn't understand. I've been there and did cut them off. You meanwhile have no fucking clue and are speaking nonsense based on what you imagine! How disgusting.

InchesOnTheDoorFrame · 31/07/2024 22:01

Oh come on, we all know what he did was very, very wrong!

Don't make insinuations about people, when you clearly cannot even vaguely comprehend what families endure as a result of their loved one's crimes.

How do you know what I can comprehend? You have no idea what I have endured.

Loved ones.....anyone who still classes someone who is interested in abusing children as a loved one is messed up. It's tied up in family. duty, obligation etc, not because they're a good person. It's fucked up.

batsandeggs · 31/07/2024 21:58

I’m sorry - what? There is zero difficult question here. You cut them out point blank period. I speak from experience, as my uncle was prosecuted with the same and received a custodial sentence. He is dead to me, as are the family who stood by him.

There is absolutely and clearly a right or wrong and it would be the end of my marriage if my husband did not immediately detach entirely from any family member convicted these crimes.