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To not invite my sister to my wedding

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palepinkmermaid · 31/07/2024 13:28

I'm getting married again next year. I will be 58 and have found love after a hideous divorce.

I am the eldest of four girls. My favourite sister died of cancer and another has had a life changing stroke and is nursed in bed. The remaining sister and I have never really got on. I don't enjoy her company and only tolerate her for my aging parents. She is constantly trying to embarrass me and tell my DF stories from years ago (he knows them all) to try and cause trouble.

When I got married 20 years ago it was the day before her birthday. She went round the entire reception group, telling them that I had only chosen that date to 'ruin' her birthday (we were all in our 30's).

She also decided to suddenly get engaged and again went round handing out handwritten wedding invites to my friends. She made the day all about her but at least last time I had my other sisters to manage her.

I just can't face it again.

All my children and DF's will be there and it's a small wedding. 60 maximum. DF not inviting his brother either as not that close.

I know my parents and my eldest daughter are uncomfortable she's not coming and she has launched a massive campaign, for anyone that will listen, about how terrible it is and how mean I am. Because she is entitled to go as it is a family event and she wants to see her family - nieces, nephews, cousins, parents.

AIBU?

OP posts:
NewspaperTaxis · 04/08/2024 13:41

This thread is interesting because it shows how two separate issues get conflated - both weddings and funerals are very personal events yet also, incongruously, are seen as an opp for a family get together, with all the potential for long-standing disputes and resentment to resurface in a time of stress.

If this is the one time the family can get together, it's a shame - but quite typical, don't get me wrong. Might almost be worth having a big family get together that's like a wedding at some point, invite everyone inc sister so you can do all that - admittedly it's costly! - then keep the wedding to who you really want.

It does have that feel of a kids' party - that who gets excluded feels traumatised. It shouldn't. Might almost be a thing where you say to your sister 'Look, you don't actually seem to like me that much so why exactly do you want to go? Remember what you did last time?'

Could she just come to the after-party/reception? Or would that be where the most damage is done?

Penguinmouse · 04/08/2024 13:26

Ozanj · 31/07/2024 14:44

I think at 58 a second wedding with 60 people is inappropriate. It should be you, your kids, two witnesses. That’s it

Nobody asked

Lisachooky · 04/08/2024 13:16

I was going to say that a wedding is a huge event,and b the better person,until I read further,so I will just say this, you have people at your wedding who you love and feel comfortable with,if you invite your sister,and she turns up you will be watching her the whole day,wondering how big a stirring spoon she brought with her.it is YOUR day,you need to decide,is it better to have her ruin your day,or just not invite her?all the very best for luck for your wedding and futurexx

Nomoremondays · 04/08/2024 13:06

PrimalOwl10 · 31/07/2024 13:41

60 ppl is not a small wedding we had that number and was by no means small. A small wedding would be 20 people. I think your making a massive statement excluding her and inviting everyone else. For a second wedding I'd have a service and go out for a meal. It's usual to have a big wedding second time around.

Lucky it's not your wedding then!

1mabon · 04/08/2024 13:06

Get married quietly in a Registrar's Office, have just the two required witnesses, you can't hurt anyone.

beanii · 04/08/2024 12:34

Of course you don't have to invite her.

My husband and I eloped to Millbrook Estate in Devon.

It was perfect, just the 2 of us celebrating the commitment we made to one another.

We got ready together, walked to the ceremony under an oak tree together - it was purely perfect.

Highly recommend it (it was both of ours second marriage).

No stress, no drama (both of us have toxic family) - highly recommend going for it.

Girlmum2203 · 04/08/2024 12:31

palepinkmermaid · 31/07/2024 15:16

I've talked to both my parents who both find her behaviour unacceptable. My mother (bless her) missed my first wedding as she'd just had brain surgery. This time round she is in early stages of dementia and rather forgetful. She is fine with my decision and everytime I remind her of what she did first time round, we laugh about it.

I don't feel not inviting her will cause any upset in my family. I have discussed it with my father (who remarried at a similar age and did it abroad), mother (they are divorced) and eldest daughter who understand. As some have said, at my age, you tend to worry less about what other people think.

I have invited her for Christmas and we will see how that goes. I'd love for her to not be who she is and be able to behave herself but she just can't. She wants to upstage me and make it all about her. She stresses out my parents who are in their mid 80's. So even though I don't think she is a bad person, I don't think she is a nice person or a mature person or someone who has any EI and can blend it subtly.

And yes - WE are having 60 close friends and some family because we want too. NO SHAME THERE. Neither of us had the wedding we wanted first time (for me it was mainly the wrong groom who dominated the guest list) and totally don't buy into the quiet registery office thing because I am not 25 anymore. We are celbrating our love and making a commitment in front of the people we care about who care about us including our 6 DC. Our 4 daughters have all recently agreed to being bridesmaids and are hugely excited ranging in age from 18-38. Thats the family I care about the most. Our new blending one.

But thank you. Very interesting opinions. I do think even the word wedding is triggering for some people. Likewise family relationships are all different and I am blessed with wonderful DC, many good friends and a wonderful step brother.

Your wedding your choice, I'm getting married in a few weeks and didn't invite anyone I even had a slight doubt about. Literally ended up with my parents, my sister and her family and my closest friends on my side, the rest of my family I have hardly any contact with and don't intend to change that any time soon, I am finally happy and settled with a good man and my daughters are in a stable safe home, nothing else matters to me so if people are offended or upset that they aren't invited including siblings thats their problem not mine. We have 40 people coming to our wedding and every single person is someone who is a part of our lives regularly and makes a positive happy contribution. No drama, no stress, no panic attacks at the thought of toxic drama on my wedding day. I want to celebrate the happiness and love we both found with each other after awful relationships previously.

MariaDoodle · 04/08/2024 12:22

I didn't even invite my parents to my 2nd wedding because of their behaviour around my first wedding. They were a nightmare, and can't cope with not being in control.

They couldn't believe it but I just wasn't having that again and to highlight their behaviour further, they've managed to maintain a fall out with my ex's family for 20 years because they love a fallout and don't care how it impacts others, including their grandchildren who have to put up with grandma refusing to speak to their other grandparents even at family events.

I still have them for Christmas, run them around to appointments and visit. I'm a good daughter in most ways. They just don't get to come to any more weddings or meet my new in laws.

OP , just because you can't choose your family doesn't mean you need to tolerate bad behaviour.

TortillasAndSalsa · 04/08/2024 12:07

It is your day to have as you wish. I got married and did not invite one of my siblings as they were hell bent on ruining the day so they got uninvited and since they weren't there my wedding day was blissful

Epicaricacy · 04/08/2024 11:57

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 04/08/2024 11:53

What is all this absolute nonsense about people saying you shouldn't be have got wed the day after your sister's birthday? She was in her thirties, why would this even be a consideration? Don't invite her, she sounds like a nightmare. I didn't invite my dad to my wedding, no regrets. I only regretted inviting an aunt and uncle because my mum asked me to, she admitted after that I shouldn't have listened to her.

it depends on the family dynamic.

My family always invite any wedding guests still around for an informal brunch/ lunch. I get on very well with my sisters, we would make a big fuss and bring birthday cake, it would be great.

The remaining sister and I have never really got on. I don't enjoy her company and only tolerate her for my aging parents.
is not quite the same thing. When you can chose any date in the year, the day after the birthday is weird, when she didn't like her sister!

Some people like their birthdays, a 34th is as significant as any birthday for a lot of us.

ChocolateTea · 04/08/2024 11:54

I got remarried earlier this year. 40 guests. Neither sister. My mum was fine with it.

it’s your wedding, you get to choose who to invite.

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 04/08/2024 11:53

What is all this absolute nonsense about people saying you shouldn't be have got wed the day after your sister's birthday? She was in her thirties, why would this even be a consideration? Don't invite her, she sounds like a nightmare. I didn't invite my dad to my wedding, no regrets. I only regretted inviting an aunt and uncle because my mum asked me to, she admitted after that I shouldn't have listened to her.

Epicaricacy · 04/08/2024 11:36

It's very weird to plan your own wedding the day before your sister's birthday frankly - unless you are close and discussed the date together, it can be fun or it can be spiteful.

Of course you book any day you want, but it's still weird to pick that specific date. I am not sure she's the nasty one and you are the angel one here.

Getonwitit · 04/08/2024 11:35

Just tell her you don't like her and don't want or need to see her unless it is regarding your parents health. It really is that simple. Congratulations on your forthcoming marriage Flowers

Lurkingonmn · 04/08/2024 11:26

Don't invite her. It sounds like everyone else close to you who knows you is on your side. I imagine your friends will be too.
As for the first wedding being the day before her birthday, how ridiculous to be upset but even more so to then go around telling everyone and then making it all about her passing out those handwritten invites. She clearly has issues. Those are good reasons not to invite her.
But regardless, you don't get on. A good reason to not invite her.
I know you are thinking of seeing how things go over Christmas, which is more than kind of you. I suspect, she'll remind you why you don't want her there. If anyone close to you really wanted her there they could be responsible for her but it sounds like there isn't anyone now.
Given how much angst you are having about it, I definitely think you are doing the right thing to not invite her. Do not let thinking about her overshadow the joy of you planning and getting married. You should focus on enjoying every moment!

Speakingofdinosaurs · 01/08/2024 15:38

Don’t invite her!
Your fiancé sounds like he wouldn’t want her there because of “the effect” she has on you.
You owe her no type of consideration, because of the way she behaved at your first wedding and the way she has behaved to you over the years.
She’s tried to make trouble between you and your fiancé by telling tales about your past, she’s tried to take the most horrible/embarrassing pictures of you and posted them all over social media.
Don't give her any more chances to cause bad memories, especially of your most joyful second wedding.

Goldcushions2 · 01/08/2024 14:52

OP, absolutely do not invite her to your wedding. You are not close to her.
I certainly wouldn't be doing Christmas either, mixed messages.

A wedding is a special day, I would say to everyone do it your way.

I look back at my wedding as something to have gotten through.

We did it for family, paid for everything, accommodation and drinks, and it was a day everyone enjoyed.
I didn't particularly.
My husbands lovely father died shortly afterwards and the only piece of video of him is that day, likewise his lovely aunt who also died. So I am happy enough for that reason alone.

When I hear of small intimate weddings I think well done.

The last few in our family have involved hundreds.....more money than sense!😁...even though we enjoyed them.

YellowAsteroid · 01/08/2024 14:37

Ozanj · 31/07/2024 22:03

You bonded with your other sisters about how terrible one of them was? Seriously?

Yes that does strike me as quite the bullying. I know about sibling dynamics- I have 5 siblings! But ganging up like that - hmmmm.

I wonder if you resent this youngest sister for reasons other than how horrible she is @palepinkmermaid - that she survives when your preferred sisters haven’t?

it’d be very interesting to hear the sister’s version of growing up in this family.

cunningartificer · 01/08/2024 13:51

My sister didn't just get married in my birthday but on my 21st birthday. I still love her! It was the only day the venue was free that suited, and I was fine with it. I'm amazed by those that think a Birthday eve should be avoided!!!

mitogoshi · 31/07/2024 22:07

60 isn't small. It's your choice but don't use numbers as a reason

Ozanj · 31/07/2024 22:03

palepinkmermaid · 31/07/2024 17:38

Thanks for this. The first part seemed considered and thoughtful. Made me think. Second part a bit 'judgey'.

As you say, you are close to your sisters. I am not to her. I was to my late sister and my sister that can no longer speak due to her stroke. We used to laugh about how awful the youngest sister (her) has been over the years.

Much as this is about my second wedding and not my first, the date we ended up getting married first time round wasn't our first choice. A venue and date fell through and we had to scrabble around. I was 6 months pregnant and put myself first. We wanted to get married before Christmas with the baby due early March.

However it still wouldn't occur to me that having a wedding near someones birthday that I wasn't close too, could be an issue. If it was someone close and a significant birthday I might. But not a 34th. She didn't have to come and she got to see her old school friends and family who lived near where we got married. Not where she lived.

You bonded with your other sisters about how terrible one of them was? Seriously?

SerafinasGoose · 31/07/2024 20:10

KreedKafer · 31/07/2024 14:53

What the fuck is going on with this place today?

Wedding threads on Mumsnet probably don't count - they're always bonkers anyway - but right now the site is full of some very unpleasant, festering prejudice, particularly on threads relating to some of the more prominent news stories of the week.

Perhaps it's what Shakespeare once referred to as midsummer madness?

kittybiscuits · 31/07/2024 19:59

CostaDelOrchard · 31/07/2024 14:03

A little bit weird you chose to overshadow her birthday by getting married the day before. Maybe I’m missing the point 🤷‍♀️

Hey sister, welcome to the thread. Try not to spoil it...

Cantrushart · 31/07/2024 18:42

If you had 150 people the first time round but were unable to set a date that was either the day of, or the day before someone's birthday, assuming nobody shared a birthday, you would only have 60 days to choose from. Then take out Christmas and assorted holidays, as well as anniversaries of other peoples weddings, bereavements etc, you've got nothing left. How ridiculous.

PointsSouth · 31/07/2024 17:42

PrimalOwl10 · 31/07/2024 13:41

60 ppl is not a small wedding we had that number and was by no means small. A small wedding would be 20 people. I think your making a massive statement excluding her and inviting everyone else. For a second wedding I'd have a service and go out for a meal. It's usual to have a big wedding second time around.

.....as they always used to say at GCSE, 'make sure you answer the question that's asked rather than one you wish had been asked'.

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