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Daily mail article, integration has failed in Germany. Aibu to agree with article?

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Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:00

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687565/Children-radicalised-mosques-11-knives-crime-verdict-German-child-refugee-charity-integration-failed-asylum-seekers.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=

Aibu to agree to an extent?

German refugee charity warns 'integration has FAILED'

In a bombshell interview, staff at a leading youth organisation in Germany have said the continuing influx of refugees means the system is at breaking point. They called for a 'freeze' in admissions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13687565/Children-radicalised-mosques-11-knives-crime-verdict-German-child-refugee-charity-integration-failed-asylum-seekers.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline&ns_campaign=1490&ns_mchannel=rss

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Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:44

Dulra · 31/07/2024 12:41

If I moved to many countries
What countries?

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Google is your friend here! Christians are persecuted in many countries, educate yourself!

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Lifeinlists · 31/07/2024 12:44

My DS is just back from a month working all over Germany. He was surprised at the level of open hard drug use in the street in particularly Frankfurt and Essen and how it seemed to be accepted. He's spent his whole life in major UK cities and is pretty streetwise but was still shocked at that and noticeable poverty.
Also seriously unimpressed with Deutsche Bahn.
Evidently all isn't rosy, sadly.

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Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:43

titchy · 31/07/2024 12:38

Let me guess, your cousin has fully integrated into Germany yes? But those with darker complexions somehow haven't?

No not quite, she is still struggling with the language, she is nearly fluent but not quite. It took a while to find a social network as her dc attend a German state school not one of the International schools in Munich. It was a big change for her but she has done her best to adapt.

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Dulra · 31/07/2024 12:42

Lilysgoneshopping · 31/07/2024 12:40

Angela Merkels open door immigration policy.
Did anyone ask the Germans if they wanted this?

No idea, but they kept on voting for her so can't have disagreed that much

Dulra · 31/07/2024 12:41

Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:36

Immigration works if it works both ways! If I moved to many countries my religion would not be accepted, I could be persecuted & I definitely would not be able to practice my Christianity or access a church.

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If I moved to many countries
What countries?

Lilysgoneshopping · 31/07/2024 12:40

Angela Merkels open door immigration policy.
Did anyone ask the Germans if they wanted this?

Dulra · 31/07/2024 12:39

Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:22

https://www.dw.com/en/has-germanys-state-education-system-failed/a-67781684

Here is an article for you regarding the German education system since you asked.

What has the education system failing got to do with integration? struggling to find a link.

Reugny · 31/07/2024 12:39

Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:36

Immigration works if it works both ways! If I moved to many countries my religion would not be accepted, I could be persecuted & I definitely would not be able to practice my Christianity or access a church.

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I thought the point of your thread was to discuss about Germany not to be Islamophobic.

HRTQueen · 31/07/2024 12:38

The DM have purposely published this yesterday knowing it will rile up many of their readers

Of course there are concerns about how to manage integration, always has been its not always smooth but the overwhelming positive stories do not make interesting reading to many

titchy · 31/07/2024 12:38

Let me guess, your cousin has fully integrated into Germany yes? But those with darker complexions somehow haven't?

ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:37

Time matters. You can bring about any change you want, no matter how drastic, as long as it’s done over a long period of time. Mass migration amounting to millions of incomers from a vastly different culture and with a different mindset over the course of 2-3 years is insane. It is bound to cause issues.

No amount of calling people racist and presenting simplistic world views is going to change that.

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Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:36

TakeMe2Insanity · 31/07/2024 12:32

Well then your cousin is part of Germany’s problems!

What crap timing for this sudden concern both by the DM and you OP.

Immigration brings so much to a country. With the exception of maybe the Andaman Islands virtually all countries have ALWAYS had people moving to them. Immigration is part of all countries. Immigration is part of life. Countries don’t fail because of immigration, they fail because of poor decision makers in power.

Stop blaming people who aren’t white. Stop blaming muslims. Instead of just reading the DM read more widely, educate yourself (not EDL daily snippets) but actual books. Raise yourself.

Immigration works if it works both ways! If I moved to many countries my religion would not be accepted, I could be persecuted & I definitely would not be able to practice my Christianity or access a church.

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ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:34

Reugny · 31/07/2024 12:31

I already have but I've been polite about it.

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Well done. What an achievement. Your medal is on its way in the posts

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Mimififi · 31/07/2024 12:34

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 31/07/2024 12:31

Well whereabouts in Germany are your family @Mimififi . There are 16 Bundesländer. It is not universal.
If they are in Sachsen Anhalt it will be different from Bayern.
This kind of simplistic reporting is what drives the AfD.

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On the outskirts of Munich. It's a beautiful area especially around Christmas time with the markets.

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ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:33

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 31/07/2024 12:30

I can't be arsed to engage with the racists and dog whistlers any more. There just isn't any point.

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Are you the type who clicks on absolutely every thread to comment ‘why is there another thread about this’?

Or the new gem ‘I can’t be arsed to engage with the racists and dog whistlers’ despite apparently doing that exact thing by your logic.

Only if there was a way to prevent yourself from being subjected to this trauma.

Honestly, MN is a like a comedy sketch sometimes.

BobbyBiscuits · 31/07/2024 12:33

@Mimififi fair enough. I can imagine there's a myriad of complex reasons for this. The article doesn't seem to be offering much in the way of a solution. As I say, I don't know Germany at all. Probably won't ever go there. Not that I've anything against it!

summerdazey · 31/07/2024 12:32

It's not really my place to offer opinion on German society as I know nothing about it. But if you do then sure agree or disagree with the article. Up to you

TakeMe2Insanity · 31/07/2024 12:32

Well then your cousin is part of Germany’s problems!

What crap timing for this sudden concern both by the DM and you OP.

Immigration brings so much to a country. With the exception of maybe the Andaman Islands virtually all countries have ALWAYS had people moving to them. Immigration is part of all countries. Immigration is part of life. Countries don’t fail because of immigration, they fail because of poor decision makers in power.

Stop blaming people who aren’t white. Stop blaming muslims. Instead of just reading the DM read more widely, educate yourself (not EDL daily snippets) but actual books. Raise yourself.

SilverBranchGoldenPears · 31/07/2024 12:31

Well whereabouts in Germany are your family @Mimififi . There are 16 Bundesländer. It is not universal.
If they are in Sachsen Anhalt it will be different from Bayern.
This kind of simplistic reporting is what drives the AfD.

Reugny · 31/07/2024 12:31

ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:26

Are we playing bingo yet?

No one has turned up to rubbish this by saying it’s in the ‘daily fail’. Because it’s such an original thing to say.

And go ‘oi racist’ to shut down the debate.

I already have but I've been polite about it.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 31/07/2024 12:30

ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:26

Here we go. Like clockwork.

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I can't be arsed to engage with the racists and dog whistlers any more. There just isn't any point.

SeeSeeRider · 31/07/2024 12:27

I blame it on all that Currywurst and the Ossis myself. I agree about the Hundepfeifen-Politik assessment too.

ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:26

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 31/07/2024 12:25

YABU to post stuff from the DM. I am not prepared to click on a link to that sort of racist bile, so can't comment on the article itself but I don't really need to - I can guess your motivation for sharing it.

Here we go. Like clockwork.

ll09sm · 31/07/2024 12:26

Are we playing bingo yet?

No one has turned up to rubbish this by saying it’s in the ‘daily fail’. Because it’s such an original thing to say.

And go ‘oi racist’ to shut down the debate.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 31/07/2024 12:25

YABU to post stuff from the DM. I am not prepared to click on a link to that sort of racist bile, so can't comment on the article itself but I don't really need to - I can guess your motivation for sharing it.

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