To think that Sensory Trauma is behind the Strictly allegations against Giovanni?

It's certainly not substantiated anywhere?

And this is why they are putting chaperones in the rehearsal rooms because it's a he said she said scenario at present.

I wasn't there, I don't know what happened - and neither do any of you. I have had people say "stop shouting at me!" though when I was not shouting at all, just speaking assertively, in a similar teaching scenario (no, not dance) but in a small group scenario where the other participants have not perceived any shouting or anything wrong.

I worked professionally in another artistic performance field and one of the reasons I don’t do that anymore is because I was exasperated that the behaviour of the teachers and directors was seen as normal. In other industries it would not have been allowed eg. If a boss in an office behaved like that, they would be removed very quickly. But for some reason it is tolerated.
Under the guise of being ‘creative experts’ they were able to shout, give unrelentingly harsh criticism in front of other people during so-called masterclasses, and essentially ridicule you.
When the performance you give is coming from yourself - your body or your voice - criticism hits very deeply.
Many years into this, I did start standing up to these people (which just served to damage my rep as being ‘troublesome’) but people entering the industry were just so keen for a break, they put up with it.
That’s not an ND issue, it’s a tw@t issue. I can well imagine what Amanda had to put up with because of his ego.

Or maybe, just maybe, she’d got herself into a situation and continued with the lie to save face - rather like a child who’s caught out in a lie but can’t back down?

I agree. But why do you say bullying is rife 'in the UK?' It's quite a strangely specific claim to make. I am fairly certain there hasn't been any study comparing bullying rates per country.

I wouldnt know if sensory trauma plays a part in the Strictly situation but It's quite an interesting perspective. Remember Roxanne Pallet on Big Brother? She was convinced Ryan had punched her, and hurt her, when the evidence clearly showed that he hadn't. Even though millions of people could see the truth, she persisted in saying otherwise. Everyone said she was an evil lying brat but maybe because of past trauma in her life she convinced herself of it and had felt something that wasn't there.

It certainly seems like a subjective post!

Either way, it seems like yet another attempt at letting Giovanni off the hook for his behaviour.

And apparently the "norm" should be "taking it in your stride if your boss shouts at you" rather than your boss just not shouting at you because that's an unprofessional, unacceptable way to behave and the reality is they should be held to account if they do.

That's interesting, because I didn't read it as victim blaming - I read it as "it's wrong to shout at some people but not at others". Which is also bullshit!

Unfortunately your post does come across like victim blaming,

No one should be verbally or emotionally abused.

When people are verbally or emotionally abused, their experience shouldn't be minimised in the name of them being "too sensitive" and "overreacting".

I'm ND and have CFS...I find what's implied in your post quite offensive and ignorant to be honest. But you'd probably think I'm oversensitive and over-reacting.

I just think oppressive bullies should be held to account and victims supported adequately. You can't go around constantly exploding at people and then excusing the fall out of that sort of behaviour as the other party being over-sensitive to stimuli.

So could different personality types, different histories of abuse, different training histories in other sports or arts etc.

If he was verbally erupting at people in the workplace, that's not ok and it doesn't matter what the contestants brought to the table that may or may not have made that more upsetting for them.

I don’t read the original OP as victim blaming at all.

It’s proposing a possible explanation for why the same stimulus (being shouted at) might result in a different reaction from different people (bouncing back vs genuine trauma).

I’ve no evidence for whether there’s truth to that. But even in my own life experience (neurotypical as far as I know but with some history of anxiety) there have been times when I’ve been more resilient and at other times less resilient to the same / similar circumstances. So I can imagine there are differences between people.

I can’t work out if you’re trying to suggest that the man’s behaviour is ok because the woman is being too sensitive, or if you’re saying the man’s behaviour is ok because he’s autistic?

Either way, explosive behaviour is not ok, however you look at it.

Can we please stop excusing male behaviour like this? It’s getting a little tiring.

Bullying is rife in the UK particularly in institutions like the BBC and NHS.
DA abuse also.
It's been minimised for far too long and the " man/ woman up" argument relies on blaming victims of abuse for their reactions to it.

Absolutely sensory trauma exists but you are mixing up sensory trauma i.e touch, sound, smell with a normal reaction to emotionally and possibly physically abusive behaviour

" You are too sensitive"

Classic Abusers line

An absolute wonder shot at victim blaming. So the problem isn't the spitting screaming man making lewd remarks at multiple female partners over a prolonged period of time but it's the women for just being too sensory sensitive?

I have ADHD and sensory processing disorder - mostly audio - so someone screaming at me would be torture but I think that's the case for most people.

YABVVVU.

Whether or not a person has sensory difficulties, exploding with rage at them isn’t acceptable. It’s not normal for bosses to shout at employees either. None of this should be normalised.

She's not saying erupting with rage is an autistic thing at all.

I think this is an interesting point OP.
Whether neurodiversity plays a part or not, there could certainly be a difference in the way different celebs have experienced the same training.

Did you understand the post?

I have no idea what the hell OP was talking about.

What on earth are you talking about??

Seriously?

My trauma is people going off on tangents and making no sense whatsoever.

Oh fuck off.

Generations of autistic (yes, NHS diagnosed) in our family, including me.

'Erupting with rage' is not an autistic 'thing'. It is an asshole thing.

Vast majority of people wouldn't recognise an autistic meltdown in an adult if it smacked them in the face. Which it wouldn't do.

Some say that things they would've easily taken in their stride before getting ME/CFS (like their boss shouting at them at work), became intolerable and sources of extreme distress, once they'd got the illness, often leaving them shaken for days and needing to take time off to recover.

What? You think only autistic, disabled or ill people are upset by someone shouting at them?

I haven't the foggiest who the people are you're talking about. I've never seen the programme and don't know what everyone is talking about. But your post just reads like nonsense waffle to me.

Again you appear to be confusing Giovanni with Graziano?

No, I don't think you are correct in this case. I'm autistic and certainly have been upset by incidents that most other people genuinely didn't notice. But this case to me seems to being taken seriously by neurotypicals, which means it must have passed their perception threshold of upset.

Erupting with rage at another person Is unacceptable. This has nothing to do with autism or sensory trauma

It was claimed that he spat at people.
Its ok to hold men accountable for their actions without trying to blame everything on the nearest woman.